User talk:Trak Nar

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  Yamitora1 (talk) 06:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)  

Hello there!

Hi! I've been tracking your edits for the past day now, and there are a few issues that I'd like to simply talk with you about. Let me start out by saying that your edits to grammar are perfectly fine and welcome. It's the edits you label as "formatting" that I, along with some of the other staff members, have qualms with. We have a lot of stylistic differences within our wiki that are different from other wikis you may have edited previously. I will have them listed below.

  • My first point will be the —. Although technically correct, it causes the raw coding to be much harder to decipher, which is something we'd like to avoid. It doesn't truly change anything visual on the actual page, so we ask that you don't go around changing hyphens and dashes to that coding anymore.
  • Secondly, category reordering. Many times, the categories on pages are in a chronological order based on how things were released throughout the franchise's history. Take your edit to Blaine, for example. You took something that is common knowledge for any Pokémon fan (the game order), and within the categories, turned it into an alphabetical order that we don't prefer. Things like this are chronological for ease of adding new ones in. There are some card articles with 100+ categories, ordered based on chronological release, so new entries are added right at the bottom. Alphabetical would be a nightmare and a half, and would make no sense to someone looking at the finished page.
  • Third. Link templates. Never [[Pidgey]]. Always {{p|Pidgey}}. Never [[Cacophony]]. Always {{a|Cacophony}}. Never [[Razor Leaf]]. Always {{m|Razor Leaf}}. These are some easy examples, but it is official policy to use link templates, so try to learn as many as you can.
  • Fourth. Removing breaks. When you remove the <br> from in between templates, you are making them run together visually on the finished page. We absolutely don't want that here at Bulbapedia. They need spaced out: it looks cleaner and neater, and is what we want for every page.
  • Fifth. Image sizes... Unless an image is ungodly too big or too small, please don't spend edits changing an image by 50px. All of these things I've already mentioned don't really change the aesthetic of the finished page, so they shouldn't be done.

As important as these formatting issues may be on places like Wikipedia, Bulbapedia and Wikipedia aren't the same. We have distinct differences that cater towards our userbase, our staff, our readers, and our supporters. Ultimately, we want you to adapt to our systems and methods. It's a learning process, and we'll help out. Just reach out to any Staff member, and we'd be willing and ready to assist. MaverickNate 05:49, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I will admit, I did exaggerate a bit on the image point. I wasn't sure how exactly you would take my lengthy first message, and wanted to test the waters, so to speak. Changing the specific aspects of the images (sizes, placement, etc) is possible and allowed; we'd just like to see something additional done with the edit. The staff just prefers having all edits be more worthwhile. As long as you find a different issue with the article, like something factual or grammatical, it is perfectly acceptable to make image sizes more consistent or change their placement for aesthetic reasons. They don't all have to be on the right. MaverickNate 18:12, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Even if "formatting" may be a bit of a vague term to use as an edit summary, you are still leagues ahead of most users. Many don't use the edit summary box to explain what they did.
Linking to the same article once per section seems to be a good rule to follow. I'm remembering some sort of rule saying something like that, but I'm failing to find it as well... o_o; I personally tend to overlink sections though. I'd rather readers be able to get to any relevant article they want without having to scroll around to find the link or mess with the search bar (especially on the TCG merchandise pages, where readers would most likely only be looking up a specific piece of merchandise). Once per section is a great standard to follow. MaverickNate 03:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)