User talk:Team Rocket Grunt

Welcome to Bulbapedia, Team Rocket Grunt!

By creating your account you are now able to edit pages, join discussions, and expand the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia. Before you jump in, here are some ground rules: Be nice to everyone. It's in the code of conduct. Make good edits. Preview them before you save to make sure they're perfect the first time around. Use wikicode and link templates when adding content to a page. Use proper grammar and spelling, and read the manual of style. You can't create a userpage until you've added to the encyclopedia. It's a privilege. See the userspace policy. Use talk pages to resolve editing disputes. Don't "edit war," or constantly re-edit/undo the same thing on a page. If you have a question about something, be proactive. Take a look at our FAQ. If you're still stuck, ask for help. The staff won't bite. Sign all talk page posts with four tildes (~~~~). This will turn into your name and the time you wrote the comment. For more handy links, see the welcome portal.

Thank you, and have a good time editing here!   GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:33, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Near-universal TMs

Why did you undo my edit to near-universal TMs? sumwun (talk) 18:48, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

User pages

Do not edit other people's user pages. You may wish to familiarize yourself with the userspace policy. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Preview button

Next time you edit an article, use the preview button at the bottom left corner of your editing screen. It will allow you to look at your edits before you actually submit them. That way, you don't have to make unnecessarily consecutive edits to a single article. Thank you. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 22:04, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

I know. I'm just surprised how many times I can find a new example that I now think this list wasn't supposed to be complete. I'll try to do it without as many saves.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 22:07, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 22:15, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Type tables

Please don't change the formatting of the table is it doesn't affect how the table will look, it is unnecessary. Thank you.--ForceFire 03:44, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

If it is unnecessary then it shouldn't bother you, it made the code clearer and shorter in page length. Also, I've changed how are presented pokestar studios opponents. I'm insisting on restoration my changes.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 10:34, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

It also added more unnecessary bytes than it had before. It didn't shorten page length at all... if you mean within the editing box, then that's not a problem, as there are other things that are longer. And the coding doesn't need to be made "more clearer", it's fine the way.--ForceFire 12:13, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

There were more bytes, because I've added many spaces. It's much more pleasing this way in my opinion and you have really no reason care about it, but you're against as always.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 12:39, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Serebii

Never use Serebii as a source. The site is a secondary source so is necessarily unreliable, but more importantly, the site has specifically requested we don't use their content. --SnorlaxMonster 12:59, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Fine, I won't, that's not the first time I found an error there. This table wasn't even finished then. By the way, nice changing of message.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 13:49, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Something to say

1. What country are you from because I saw you adding that Clefairy and Clefable had somewhat different Polish names in EP006.
2. See what I have written on Template talk:Bag2.

Have a nice day, TheICTLiker4 19:14, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Of course I'm Polish and I've seen ForceFire reverted your edit, which I prefered. And I've also seen Bag2. I don't really understand how does it work, but it seems fine and someone really should decide if to change this template but it's always hard to get one of admins' attention.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 09:12, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Block

As you have repeatedly shown a complete lack of compliance in regards to making major changes to templates, including changing the look of it and making very unnecessary minor changes, you have been blocked for a week. I have told you numerous times already, you cannot make major changes to a template without asking on the talk page first. Even if no one responds, ask a [staff] member directly. No response does not give you the right to just make the edit. Do not do as you please. If you return and continue to make any major templates changes without asking first, you will be blocked for longer. Thank you.--ForceFire 16:12, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Dex entries

We only add anime dex entries if the dex entry is about the subject itself, passing mentions do not count.--ForceFire 05:54, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Userspace limits

Hello. I have noticed that you have been editing the User: namespace a lot recently, and have made a total of 4+ userspace edits today. Please do not edit the userspace any more, as the userspace policy limits the amount you can edit your userpage: No more than three edits per day (by UTC), and you must contribute to the mainspace more than you edit your user page(s). This policy was instated to promote people helping out in the mainspace, and also to control strain on our servers. Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, after all, so help us out by contributing to some articles before coming back to your personal page(s). The more often you edit in the mainspace, the more you will be allowed to edit your user page(s). Thank you. --ForceFire 17:05, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Please take note that you are required to contribute to the mainspace, and do so more than you edit your userpage. Just limiting yourself to 3 edits a day does not make it all "okay". Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Does it count that I've made a lot of contribution to the mainspace over the years? I'm also working exclusively on things that I intend to move on the mainspace.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 11:13, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

No, you can't stock up any kind of "credit".

I honestly wasn't looking at the content since it was your base userpage and most people just use that for personal info. If you'd like to move it to a subpage but still keep it all together (instead of one for each subject), some people like making a userspace sandbox. Edits to that would be more immediately distinct. And we do generally give allowance for work intended for the mainspace. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:19, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I've practically finished and would like to show my work to the staff. What would be the best way to do that? I really don't want to get ignored or be left with just the negative answer.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 22:15, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Start by asking someone. If it's not answered, you can ask someone else. If you don't like the answer you can appeal higher (if possible). Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:42, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Unnecessary edits

You're still making unnecessary edits to templates and changing the design of it without permission (changing the colors counts as changing the design). Please cease the pointless edits to templates as they change nothing and please start a discussion on the talk page first if you want to change the colors of the template. Thank you.--ForceFire 16:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

So, can I change the colors because one page really shouldn't use two different ones for each gender?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 16:59, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, you may.--ForceFire 17:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

My edit also contained other changes. Are these alright?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 17:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Putting the coding of the cells in one row is pointless and changes nothing, so not that, leave them separated. Anything else is fine.--ForceFire 17:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I will make the edit now. Tell me if there is something you don't agree with.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 17:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The new changes are fine.--ForceFire 09:36, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposed templates

Please don't make templates in the mainspace. If you want to propose a template, create it in your userspace first and wait for it to get approved. Thank you.--ForceFire 04:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC) Ok. Sorry, I didn't know such template already exists.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 11:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Gender table

I think the same episodes (and same instigator in them) for example DP142 and the Togepi, BW007 and the Snivy, and Emolga in the episodes it’s used for (without combining episodes, of course) should be rowspanned if possible--KnightGalarie (talk) 19:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for taking an interest in my little project. Well, it is still far from finished and after that I still would have to convince the staff about adding it to the mainspace so there is time until we talk about cosmetics.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 19:58, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh I know its current state. I’m not talking about mainspacing. I wouldn’t call it cosmetics, more aesthetic, but what I’m talking about is more its structure. I don’t think we need to see the same episode mentioned 5 or 6 times, just let the first instance stretch as necessary. Same for repeated instances of the instigator within the episode. It’s a structural thing, which is important.--KnightGalarie (talk) 20:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

It's much easier to work with what it is now and it will stay this way. I personally don't think it should be connected because every use of Attract is a seperate incident.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 11:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Move variation header: Template:Mvar/h

Why did you add the sizing? The table of contents on the move variations page is so tall that this change was unneeded. --Bfdifan2006_{something to say?} 16:27, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I thought the page "Move variations" looks very weird and inconsistent with all the tables in different sizes, and I didn't change height, just width so it has no effect on how tall the page is.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 16:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

When I meant "table of contents", I meant the auto-generated grey column with a green border with the names of headers on the same page. That's why I had to undo your edit. --Bfdifan2006_{something to say?} 17:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh, it doesn't fit on your screen? Well it did on mine. Maybe I'll try with 600px?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 17:59, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Sure, you can do that. --Bfdifan2006_{something to say?} 12:51, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Even after your edit to the template, it still fits between the left side of the screen and the table of contents. --Bfdifan2006_{something to say?} 07:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Wait, so you are asking why the table of contents is on the right instead of the left like on other pages? It's because of the div "<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div>". Someone put it there because the table of contents is very long.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 11:55, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

No, actually, it's related to the width.

Specifications (taken from my computer):

• Screen resolution: 1366x768 pixels
• Content area width: 1152 pixels
• Width of the table of contents on Move variations page: 239 pixels
• Padding: 13 pixels on both sides

Also, I could DM you on Discord instead of this long thread on this page. I am Keyacom#0002 on Discord, so could you send me a friend request, if you can? --Bfdifan2006_{something to say?} 19:53, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Buizel

Hi, can I ask what exactly were you referring to by 'gender policy' in Buizel's case? Its gender difference is pretty clear. Adil — Talk page 13:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I realized my mistake. It's still counterintuitive to me to treat Pokemon from generation IV differently, but I understand the idea. In case of Staraptor, I think it's clear that we can't use gender difference as a proof.--Rocket Grunt 14:04, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Noted. I'm discussing the Staraptor issue with the staff. I'll post a reply under the topic you recently started on Staraptor's page once we have a decision. Adil — Talk page 14:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Also, in DP103 Ash's Staravia was infatuated by robot Staravia with a pink bow, seems like a indication to me.--Rocket Grunt 14:39, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

James refers to the decoy as princess Staravia trap number 5. So, I don't think there's any doubt that Ash's is male. The argument is whether to use the episode or the policy as the reasoning. Adil — Talk page 14:44, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Minor differences

Just going to say this before you go ahead and make more edits that I have to revert. If the difference is simply the length or size of a Pokemon's physique or design, like Meganium or Abomasnow, then it is a minor difference. A difference that isn't minor is a difference we can actually tell, like Pikachu or Buizel's difference.--ForceFire 15:35, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Cool. Can you answer my questions about gender differences on your talk page and speculation policy talk page?--Rocket Grunt 15:37, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Misdreavus

Why did you undo my edit on misdreavus? BlauesSerpiroyal (talk) 19:55, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Because you left it with broken template.--Rocket Grunt 20:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. Thats...emberassing I'll fix it. Thanks for the clarification (i should really use the preview button more often) BlauesSerpiroyal (talk) 20:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Err why did you say cosmoem is the heaviest unevolved pokemon

Onix Is the heaviest unevolved pokemon not cosmoem because cosmoem is the secondary evolution of cosmog and unevolved means the first stage so yeah - unsigned comment from GeomancyGarbodor (talk • contribs)

Voltorb

That Voltorb gif you uploaded was from a dream sequence. Voltorb can't actually change its size. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

It did in one episode of Original Series and in the manga.--Rocket Grunt 14:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

What episode specifically? Even if it's true, the image you uploaded isn't a good representation of that, since, as I said, it's from a dream sequence. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:56, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

EP049, PG04 and PS010.--Rocket Grunt 15:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

My reasons are the same as Finnish, the gif is from a dream sequence and not from any of the other episodes where Voltorb can apparently change size (of which I am sceptical of). If you can re-upload a new gif that isn't from the dream sequence (and thus prove that it is actually something Voltorb can do), then the edit can stay. Also, do not continuously re-add removed information, it falls under edit warring. But you know that already, at least you should know that already.--ForceFire 18:37, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring

I'm going to emphasize Force Fire's warning above. Per the blocking policy, making the same edit three times is edit warring. Edit summaries are not a suitable way to have an extended "discussion" on the pros and cons of an edit. If you have a disagreement with someone about an edit, take it to a talk page before it becomes an edit war. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Pokémon Type Tables

While I like the edits of the Type articles you did for consistency's sake, why not update the other Type articles with those differences? I don't think the Pokémon sprite column should have its own header, and it's strange to have it sortable as it is now on the type pages. --AmbientDinosaur (talk) 16:47, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

That's because I really dislike these tables and don't really care about their looks and functionality as they have almost none. I like your idea and we can do that, it will make them better after all.--Rocket Grunt 17:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Anime series sections

Hey, I created a proposal of adding series sections in the articles for Pokémon species. For instance, adding "Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl", "Pokémon the Series: Black & White", etc. sections in Pikachu.

This is being discussed here: Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub#Pokémon pages with anime series sections. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 13:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Same as usual

Do not just revert an edit because you disagree with it, discuss it (which you actually did) but actually wait for a consensus before taking any action. Immediately adding the reverted info back in may fall under edit warring. The things you added really only pertained to a set of moves, not the type in general. Properties of a move does not belong on an article talking about a type (in general). They go to the move articles.--ForceFire 04:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Celadonkey shouldn't revert my edit just because he didn't understand it. Every type relation is relevant in type page, especially in battle properties section.--Rocket Grunt 22:07, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I did understand your edits perfectly fine. Those exceptional type interactions are worth mentioning somewhere for sure (and they already are, in what I would argue is the appropriate place), but the type pages are perhaps not the place for that, and currently, others seem to agree.

Again, if you believe strongly in this cause, you should make your case on a talk page. Maybe people will agree that it should be included, and then it might get added to the pages! But just going ahead and adding stuff back after you've been reverted is not the right approach. --celadonk (talk) 18:38, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

In my experience mentioning something on the talk pages rarely works. Prove me wrong and have an opinion on Talk:Ash's Bulbasaur and Talk:Sabrina's Haunter pages.--Rocket Grunt 18:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Bulbasaur's gender, it was brought to my attention. I do intend to discuss it with the rest of the staff, but my work schedule has been inconsistent, so I haven't gotten around to finalizing it. As for Haunter, I'll add it to my to-do list. However, I don't have an eta unfortunately. Adil — Talk page 19:21, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Rocket Grunt, for what it's worth, I do think that user input on talk pages do need to be treated more seriously. It was one of my biggest frustrations here before I was promoted to staff. But just because, sometimes, talk pages can be an ineffective way to bring about change... using them is still what you're supposed to do. You can't just resort to breaking rules, especially ones that you've been warned about before, just because sometimes people don't respond to talk pages. --celadonk (talk) 19:26, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

What is so complicated about Haunter's ownership that one admin can't make this tiny change? It's obvious it should be "Haunter (anime)" or even "Ash's Haunter".--Rocket Grunt 23:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Right there, you yourself gave two options. That is precisely why it takes us time to discuss things. Making sure what option works better and why is it better, that the change is in line with the established set of rules and other possible issues that could come with it. At the end of the day, we are the ones responsible for giving users justification for the decision when asked. It is almost never "a tiny change" that a staff member can just go and do without a proper discussion with the other staff. It is a process, and we have to make sure that we are all on the same page. Adil — Talk page 00:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I would agree if it wasn't a case from the year 1997. Some staff's guidelines about such common topic should be already established.--Rocket Grunt 12:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

You make it sound like this one issue is the only issue we talk about. There are other things that get discussed among staff, and we've just come back from an upgrade with minor niggles that need fixing, so apologies if you feel that your questions are being ignored.--ForceFire 06:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)