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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!PokeManiac102 16:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Alternative Sprites

Below are some Pokémon sprites that I altered to fit their character. If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to tell me.

File:Ash's Squirtle2.png
File:Ash's Treecko.png
File:Ash's Grovyle.png
File:Ash's Sceptile2.png
File:Ash's Butterfree.png
File:Ash's Primeape.png
File:Jessie's Dustox.png
File:Taisei's Piplup.png
File:Isis's Bibarel.png
File:Joy's Chansey.png
File:Joy's Blissey.png
File:Madame Muchmoney's Snubull.png
File:Muchmoney's Granbull.png
File:Janina's Onix.png
File:Ash Sprite.png
File:Tracy Sprite.png
File:Ritchie Sprite.png
File:Morrison Sprite.png

--Taviource 21:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC) This is a list of my sprite supporters. If you support these sprites, please help them out and add your name to the list and talk to Fabu-Vinny. Thanks

Sprite supporters:


Please place your suggestions below.

I just have to say sorry, and great job!--KukiTalk 23:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, you could add age to Tracey's Scyther, make May's Squirtle look younger, and add Jessie's Dustox's ribbons--KukiTalk 23:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It's all right, Kuki. I don't think it could be possible to change the ages without changing the original sprites completely. But I'll see what I can do for Dustox. :)Taviource 23:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
There, I have finished Ash's Sceptile, Squirtle, Primeape, Butterfree, and Jessie's Dustox. Oh! and I forgot to say earlier that in order to make Pokemon look younger, I would have to make the sprite much smaller because that is basically the main difference. So as I said beofore, I'm sorry that it won't work without corrupting the original sprite.--Taviource 23:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Bibarel's headband?--KukiTalk 23:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there even a page for Isis? I've never checked. I go and take a look.Taviource 23:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it was originally Ishisu--KukiTalk 23:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

No you are not done! Remember Taisei's Piplup with that flower headband thingy??--KukiTalk 00:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's a tiara and not a headband.--Taviource 02:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Celebi from movie 4, but with the dark circles in the eyes--KukiTalk 21:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Janina's sparkly Onix, with table--KukiTalk 22:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Onix is done and ready!--Taviource 22:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible for you to do a sprite of Tracey Sketchit? --ケンジガール 23:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Everything's possible. I get it done ASAP! I'll get to work right away.--Taviource 23:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Awesome ^^ Thanx! --ケンジガール 23:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Eep! It looks awesome! --ケンジガール 23:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

EXCEPT... THERE IS AN E IN TRACEY--KukiTalk 23:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about a Ritchie?--KukiTalk 23:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for catching the mistake. I'll fix it. I'll get Ritchie after my dinner break alright?--Taviource 23:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)e

Where u from? I already had dinner--KukiTalk 23:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished my dinner. I currently live in Illinois in the U.S. I'll be moving to California in about 3 weeks. Take the UTC time and subtract 5 hours. THat's the time over here.--Taviource 00:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I live in NY, meaning we'll be 3 hours apart! DYP (Damn your parents!)--KukiTalk 00:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

MY EYES!!! Ritchie is too brite!--KukiTalk 00:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
They aren't shaded right. Most of the items just look like they've been sticked to a picture like a sticker. tc26 01:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
im digging the Squirtle and the Primeape.C is for Cookie
Let's make Ritchie bright and shine like a happy person! And thanks. I have just finished Morrison for you all! Making Alternations of sprites is simply adding on items onto the Pokemon sprites or it won't be called "Sprite alternation." I decided to take on this job because the previous ones that some people did were not as great (no offense). But making characters are different. I usually take a character sprite from the game, similar to the character I'm making and basically erase their hair and change the color of the clothes. It sounds easy, but it takes a long time!--Taviource 01:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I've got 4 more spritee alternations for u:

1. Nurse Joy's Chansey

2. Nurse Joy's Blissey

3. Nurse Joy's Croagunk

4. Madame Munchmoney's Snubbull/Granbull

C ya--KukiTalk 12:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

That's alot!--Taviource 15:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Fix Ritchie. He's too bright.--Diamaster 19:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Chek ur mail Tavi. I need a favor--KukiTalk 00:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk Page Comments

Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like Big Johnno, who got into an edit war with a sysop over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --Shiningpikablu252 22:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

--Alright, Thanks:Taviource 22:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


The consensus surrounding the Bellsprout from the episode where a COTD catches a Bellsprout with Ash's Poké Ball is that the Bellsprout should NOT be considered Ash's by any stretch of the imagination. Please don't edit Ash's page claiming the Bellsprout should belong to Ash. --Shiningpikablu252 22:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

--But Brock caught a Tauros with Ash's Poké Ball. Taviource 22:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

And he returned the Poké Ball to Ash. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links08:34 28 May 2008
Then why's Tauros on Brock's page???Taviource 15:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Rather than copy and paste, to add a welcome message to a new user's talk page you can just type {{subst:Welcome}}. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 15:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Got it!--Taviource 15:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


You know, I started a talk on the "connection" between Cyrus and Mesprit yesterday. Basically, it's talking about Mr. I Think Emotions are Useless.It's on this Mesprit. BlueJirachi 16:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I know--Taviource 16:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, okay. BlueJirachi 16:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

okay what?...Shaymin Sky.png--Taviource 16:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

That you know about it. And, by the way, nice Shaymin sprite! It looks EXACTLY like PurpleKecleon's artwork!


Uh, yeah. Yesterday I was told not to have any images in my sig. It's the new Signature Policy. Just telling you about it.BlueJirachi 16:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's not in my signature and I saw you get told that. But it still looks good.Taviource 16:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You were watching me? BlueJirachi 16:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No, I saw thewords that told you. And I was watching the Recent Changes page.Taviource 16:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. I'm not good with sprites. I'm more of an artist. BlueJirachi 16:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm way better at drawing too, but horrible at coloring. My parents always go around and brags about how good my drawings are. Ever since I won 1st prize at this one Art show, my parents wanted me to earn money by selling my drawings on the internet.Taviource 16:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

My friends at school (and even my teacher) say the same thing. "Sell your art on the Internet. You could get millions."BlueJirachi 16:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

But sometimes I would think, "Who would buy them anyways?" I'm not the only one in this world who could draw like that. I'm usually better at sketching.--Taviource 16:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Once the guys finally get it done, we'll all get back to editing our User pages.BlueJirachi 17:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Link Templates

Please use link templates when linking to stuff such as Pokémon names, attacks, and the like. For example, {{p|Onix}} instead of just [[Onix]]. This is so you don't unintentionally link to a disambiguation page.

For a full crash course on link templates, look at the shortlinks. --Shiningpikablu252 22:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It's up

The first of the Zero Isle divisions are up: Zero Isle North! Took me a while to get the list of Pokémon in, there's a lot. BlueJirachi 02:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Impressive! You did a very good job. I usually don't have the patience for things like that. Bulbapedia deserves your love!--Taviource 02:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Reindeer Pokemon

I had been zooming up on the so called "possible form of Shaymin" and I realized that it is not a Shaymin, but a REINDEER! The red is appears to be its tail. IT has yellow ears and two large ANTLERS. I'm using my talk page as this Pokemon's Talk Page. This could be the Pre-evolutional form of Stantler! First, we need a name for it...--Taviource 18:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Doubtful that it's a pre-stantler. I think it's a eeveelution, or (as much as i'm against it) an new shaymin.LordKaien 18:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

They already have Glaceon and Leafeon. It looks like... something... BlueJirachi 18:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

BlueJirachi's right. Why would an Eevee be evolving into a Reindeer?--Taviource 18:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I just noticed something. go here: and look at the picture of all the pokemon. What do (most) of them have in common?LordKaien 18:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Um...they all travel with Ash, Dawn, and Brock?--Taviource 18:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Why is shaymin there? unless... LordKaien 18:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
...unless Dawn captures it! Or it's there just because it travels with them for a WHILE.--Taviource 18:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Like May and Manaphy and Max and Jirachi? BlueJirachi 18:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly! We did see the picture with Dawn holding Shaymin, right?--Taviource 18:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Taviource, just because you think you see antlers and a tail doesn't make it true fyi :/ The white things look more like wings to me, and the red thing appears to be a rose. It looks nothing like a reindeer. Face it, it's Shaymin's new form. Why would they introduce a fifth generation Pokemon before the fourth is fully revealed? ~RR~ 18:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

They do in almost every generation! Also, Shaymin would be perfect 4 Dawn, because of contests.LordKaien 18:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
They had always introduced a new Pokemon in the previous Gen. It's like Munchlax in Hoenn. Deoxys wasn't even there yet. And those aren't wings. They're attached to its head!--Taviource 18:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Munchlax arrived before the Diamond and Pearl games.BlueJirachi 18:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Face it, RR. IT's a Reindeer!--Taviource 18:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Maybe, this creature is related 2 shaymin, but not, like the two shellos forms. LordKaien 18:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, Shaymin is legendary, so it's unlikely to happen.--Taviource 18:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
U never know, phione and manaphy R related, and there legends. Phione is a psedo-legend, but the point remains. LordKaien 18:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
As long as we all agree with Taviource, We're cool.--Diamaster 19:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Lolz, i didn't agree wih him on a pre-stantler thing. LordKaien 19:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree, too.♪ BlueJirachi 19:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It was just a thought he had in mind.--Diamaster 19:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I made a sprite of the new Pokemon. It is not 100% accurate, but it is over 75% accurate. Take a look. File:Reindeer.png--Taviource 19:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Its tail could be a mistletoe.--Taviource 19:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree.--Diamaster 19:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, BlueJirachi.--Taviource 19:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Nice work. I've got 2 go now, I have work 2 do 2day. See ya! LordKaien 19:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
See Ya'!--Taviource 19:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey, that was what I was going to say.--Diamaster 19:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, too Bad. I said it first!--Taviource 19:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Taviource, you're seeing just what you wanna see... your sprite is a remarkable work, but I don't see any antlers in the original picture. They're are ears like Eevee's, and also in the original picture that thing doesn't have any yellow orb in its neck, so I think you have way too much imagination. Please remember when Munchlax was revealed, even Deoxys was available to US FireRed and LeafGreen and he was the very final Pokémon in the National Pekédex. if they're planning a Gen V, they should reveal Shaymin not only to Japan, but worldwide... and then Arceus would come and THEN they would reveal a new Gen V Pokémon, not before. hfc2X 00:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
So it has 4 ears?....I don't think so.--Taviource 01:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
That's what I'm talking about... It has those 2 large ears and no more. We have to wait and see, maybe you're right, but the picture doesn't show anything but a creepy bad quality thing. hfc2X 01:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Look carefully and you might see the small ears. But anyways, why argue on this anyways? Let's just drop it until a better picture comes out.--Taviource 02:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Still think it's a "Reindeer Pokemon" and not Shaymin after the new pictures that have come out? ~RR~ 21:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


Hey since your doing sprites, why don't you make Nurse Joy's Croagunk? Here's a pic in case you didn't see it PL12 12:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe that someone already gave her Croagunk a bow. There has been another person working on the sprites. But there is also a person going around deleting all of them. I think it is User:Ph34r4ever is doing that. Everyone (except for him) likes my sprites. I even had administrator permission. I don't get his problem.--Taviource 15:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Ph34r4ever and Cassius changed them back too many times, so now Fabu-Vinny disabled the editing.--Taviource 15:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Wait, nevermind. Cassius is neutral. It's Force Fire who caused the page to end up like this. And I would like to thank PL12, User:Kuki, Cassius335, and Kenji-girl for the support.--Taviource


I will support you getting your sprites back. Guardian of Earth 16:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I added you to the support list.--Taviource 16:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Why the hell, did it write that twice??? Guardian of Earth 16:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you wanted to give me extra support?--Taviource 16:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok then, I'm giving you 200% my support. Guardian of Earth 16:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol! Or you could give infinite% of your support.--Taviource 16:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll do better than that infinity +1% Guardian of Earth 16:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

googolplex%, considering I helped with the ideas--KukiTalk 16:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Help get more supporters and add them to the list under the table of sprites.--Taviource 16:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll get my brother. Guardian of Earth 16:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright then, I'll support you even though I am finished with Bulbapedia. F K 16:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Did u get the mail Tavi?--KukiTalk 16:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Frazer Ketchum.
Kuki, it's Tavis and I didn't get it. I don't think I can get you the Misty sprite yet. I'm really busy. Sorry.--Taviource 16:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I posted a message on user:David Aipom's Talkpage trying to get him to join if he still goes on Bulbapedia I know he will. Guardian of Earth 16:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks--Taviource 16:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I give my support because your sprites are groovay x4 :D David


Thanks to you too! Spread the word!--Taviource 16:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if I've been annoying bout the personalized Misty sprite--KukiTalk 19:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

It's fine. SO you just need them for visualization? Try closing your eyes and imaginin Misty. Then imagine her eating too much therefore causing here stomach to be bloat. Then, just expand it a little more...and.. Waalaaa! there you go.--Taviource 19:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

But then I sorta lose it.--KukiTalk 19:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

nm--Taviource 21:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Lose the image, I mean.--KukiTalk 21:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Draw it down--Taviource 21:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm a horrible artist. Look I understand. I can live without the sprite--KukiTalk 21:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I support you, Mr. Taviource, sir... the new big man on wiki!!KPF 21:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I aupport your sprites! (By the way, sorry I wasn't here earlier. I had a HUGE appointment today and my Diamond character's name is Dianna. Should have mentioned, then input the Friend Code.) BlueJirachi 23:57, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I have persuaded Tc26 to support alternate sprites, but he wants a vote where if someone makes a better alternate sprite (voted for) the better one will be used which is only fair. Guardian of Earth 09:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


...You're turning Bulbapedia into what it isn't. Dude, I seriously DON'T want you to become another Shiny Noctowl. We're getting into an edit war over alternate sprites. Seriously, I don't care how much effort you put into it. I don't mind you putting up the Treecko family and Squirtle, but everything else must go...It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links02:32 8 Jun 2008

I agree. I have been spriting for a long time and some of yours are some of the worst that I've seen, especially the trainers.
What about Mimey, Nurse Joy's Chansey/ Blissey, Taisei's Piplup, Jessie's Dustox?--KukiTalk 02:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Calm down. Taviource we appreciate your hard work, It's just that it's not really special. Kuki, Mimey doesn't wear an apron/ holds a Broom 24/7, just leave the usual sprite. --Force Fire 02:38, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Several of them lack the right shading, like Mimey's broom. Also, Blissey lacks the half-pendant. tc26 02:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh well, he can fix that, and they are special, they improve Bulbapedia why does everything have to be the same why can't there be diversity, it's like the old communist regime we had in Europe, where everything must be the same. Let him use the Sprites they harm no one and for quite a few, make the articles better, they have a lot of support Guardian of Earth 08:38, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I think they have lots of support since I think hardly anyone here has sprited for a long time, so they don't know much how a realy good one looks like. tc26 08:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to see you do better, they are brilliant, the only ones that are bit .... you know, are Ritchie, Ash and Tracey. The rest are amazing. And yes they do have a lot of support because they are good, not because we haven't seen a good sprite in a while. Guardian of Earth 09:01, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I would but I can't think of anything to make. tc26 09:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Rebuttal. 'they harm no one'. O RLY? People! Excessive uploading will put a load on the Archives! Load on Archives=Load on Bulbapedia. Load on Bulbapedia=Another blackout. So, do you want that to happen? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links09:17 8 Jun 2008

No, what will harm the archives and cause problems is the constant removing that will slow the server, the sprites should be there and once they are up only a few more will be added as the anime goes along, as you don't get a new 1 everyday, so there will be no more problem with the server, and have you seen some of the junk on those archives, I think the junk should be removed. Guardian of Earth 09:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I created this.

025.png 417.png This user is a good friend.
put it on your userpage after the ban is lifted, i don't know what your fave poke is so I will change Pachirisu when you tell me. Guardian of Earth 09:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks very much. I like all kinds of Pokemon. Pachirisu can stay. Thanks for sticking up for me when I was away from my computer. I'm sorry if I caused too many diputes. I thought I should've stayed away from Bulbapedia for a while. I was there, but I just wasn't editing.--Taviource 17:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You should stay on Bulbapedia, you have every right to, it's not causing disputes if you are standing up for yourself, your work and what you believe in. Guardian of Earth 17:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)