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Okay, I'll change the limit to 100KB, but seriously, that's it.

Custom Sprites

Kuki said about creating sprites for the different patterned Butterfree and Vileplume. And since you said you are simply in charge here when Pie and Zhen isn't here, I guess that means you might know more. So the question is if we should make sprites for those. But since they are different patterns, much like arbok and spinda, there is no reason to make a new sprite just for a new pattern right? But Kuk's argument is that they are also different colored. So what's your view?--Tavisource 02:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not just in charge while they're gone. I am in charge...
Anyway... I think it'd be best to take it forumward to see what the others think of it. TTEchidna 03:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC) won't let me create a new thread. I clicked "New Thread" and it says I do not have permission. Is that what I was supposed to do, or did I do it wrong?--Tavisource 04:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Are you, um... registered for the forums? TTEchidna 05:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
yes. I'll just do it on the talk page. Maybe I just don't know how to work the forums, I never found a need to use it.--Tavisource 05:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Eh, I think it'd be better to do the forums... You sure you did it right? TTEchidna 05:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Nevermind, I got it.--Tavisource 18:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Mind if I happen to steal?

Hey TTE, would you mind if I happen to "steal" some things that you have made? Specifically I'd like to "steal" (and of course modify) your archive page that counts bytes,and your Pokémon of the Day. Might I be allowed to do this, or would you prefer I not? Sorry to bug you about this, but I like to ask before I "steal" things ^_^; - Kogoro | Talk to me | 03:18, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

PotD is pretty much the only one that I don't want borrowed. As for the archives, go for it, just change the colors. TTEchidna 04:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I won't borrow the PotD. Thank you for permission on the archives ^_^ - Kogoro | Talk to me | 04:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Can I also borrow the KB counter? --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 14:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


How do you create sub-pages like the ones you and Kenji-Girl have? I really don't want to try and experiment with links and take the change of messing something up.

----HoennMaster 09:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Go to your userpage, in the URL bar add /NAME (Just replace NAME with the name you want for the sub-page) then edit the non-existent page. Just remember that editing user sub-pages does count to the 3 userspace edits per day limit. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 09:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean limit? What is userspace?

----HoennMaster 10:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

There is a limit of how many times you can edit your userpage and subpages (or even, in rare circumstances, others' pages) a day. The userspace includes your page, and any of your subpages. This includes the smallest edits, from adding a period to the end of a sentence, to the largest edits, from creating a whole new page. People like TTEchidna don't have a limit, because dey are awesome like that. Thankfully, the limit does not include any talk pages, even your own talk pages. However, don't go overboard and make it a blog. Gligar 14:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it does not only include your main page and subpages, but any other page in the userspace, even if it doesn't belong to you (even though editing pages that aren't yours is not allowed.) MoldyOrange 14:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Generation IV in LOPBG

Due to my userspace limit already being over, I have taken the liberty of completing the Generation IV chart in "List of Pokémon by game". It is complete and currently resides in the bottom of the Sandbox. The page is now officially complete and ready for the mainspace once you add Generation IV. Thank you. Gligar 14:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

You are adding information to a userspace page that will make it to the mainspace when it is complete, that is allowed and does not count towards your total. MoldyOrange 14:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I wish I'd known that earlier. Anyway, it's finished now. Gligar 15:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Not quite. You've got a few listed... off. For example, in Pt, Gligar's no longer a dongler, while Magmar and Electabuzz are in the wild. TTEchidna 16:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
You're right. I kind of assumed for some of Platinum's, since some of the Pokémon articles only say "Trade" because they haven't been updated. I'll take a look at Serebii. Gligar 18:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Serebii claims to have a complete location list, but I don't see one. The only way I see is manually checking all their pages. I've made a few dongle/version-exclusive edits. Gligar 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
From what I've seen he does, on the individual pages. TTEchidna 22:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
The only way I see is manually checking all their pages. Or were you implying something else? Gligar 22:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, that's what I meant, he doesn't have a list of all 493 with their Pt locations, but has the Pt locations in their pages. If it's what you meant originally then yes I agree. TTEchidna 22:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
So is it ready for mainspace? Every other minor detail that we missed can be fixed later by other users. Gligar 22:58, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I would say, very possibly so. I'd need to set things up. TTEchidna 00:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I think somebody forgot to do something... Gligar 22:50, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

hi sir how to make a nice profile

Bakunawa 14:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)hi sir im newb and how to make a nice profile thanksBakunawa 14:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Uhm... wikicoding? I dunno. TTEchidna 16:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, TTE knows nothing about it. Don't ask him. Porygon-Z 16:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I mean, it's mostly just... knowing how to make charts... TTEchidna 16:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


Could you somehow fix this image of Eusine's sprite? it isn't working. Image Removed MoldyOrange 16:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea what's wrong with it... It's just not there. Give it a while, if you just noticed it gone, it might just be a glitch that'll correct itself. Either way, ew jpg sprite. Can we fix that? TTEchidna 16:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't know, But I think the problem is the accented I; Images don't work when there are weird characters, which include ♀ and ♂. I doubt it has worked for the past five months since Mesenquima uploaded it. MoldyOrange 16:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
That could also be a problem; we had one with the Template:Type2 Arceus a while ago. TTEchidna 22:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


I signed up for one and got a screen name (Politoed666 - what else?), and tried to download AIM 6.8, but I can't figure out how to instant message. Any assistance? --ニョロトノ666 02:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Um... sign on? Then just... send an IM? TTEchidna 02:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
On But where's the thing I click to IM someone. Like you, for instance. How would I IM you, step by step? --ニョロトノ666 00:23, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Once you've got the program installed, open it. Sign in, add someone to your buddy list, double click them to get the messaging window. Porygon-Z 00:37, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
TTE, get on AIM. I wanna try this out. --ニョロトノ666 01:23, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I am. TTEchidna 01:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Move Variations

Well, I was looking at the tables and I thought that we should have seperate rows for Physical and Special moves. Now, I'm not too good with tables so I had a play around and it came to this:

Variations on the move Blizzard
Special Blizzard | Focus Blast
Physical Gunk Shot

What do you think? I mean, we could add other columns to it if needs be. At the moment, it just looks a little clumped, especially with moves with many variations (Hyper Beam, Quick Attack, Swift etc.). Just an idea... TESHIGIGAS 22:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks pretty nice, actually. Just change it so that it's colspan=2'd. TTEchidna 22:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. Also, does the width of the table matter? I mean, how many moves would we put in one one row before starting another? Variations like Blizzard are easy, but with Quick Attack etc., it get's harder. TESHIGIGAS 22:52, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't exceed about 500px. TTEchidna 23:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


TTE, shouldn't this template of yours use {{g|anime}} instead of [[Pokémon Anime]] on it? Isn't using the shortlinks policy? (I asked this on the template's talk page, but I'm not sure if that page will make the "new messages" bar appear. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 23:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Policy unless there's a reason otherwise. There's not much difference between the g template and typing it out. The LTs are mostly for stuff like moves. TTEchidna 01:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Using Unicode minus

What do you think of using the Unicode minus character instead of hyphens where appropriate—for instance, in TCG resistances? Since Bulbapedia implements UTF-8, it would be a shame to not make use of it. It can be copy-pasted directly (−), or an editor can type &#8722; in the source. It seems to me that this would be similar to the acute é or em dashes. And visually, it does make a difference: compare (2 + 3 - 5) to (2 + 3 − 5). IIMarckus 04:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Hrm... well, the regular dash (-) works in mathematical calculations, while I'm unsure if that minus does. So... I dunno. It seems like going a little overboard...
weakness resistance retreat cost
Lightning Fighting -30   
weakness resistance retreat cost
Lightning Fighting −30   
Besides... it looks like an endash (–) when smaller... The TCG cards used the exact font, so I think we oughta keep the -. TTEchidna 05:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I can buy that. IIMarckus 05:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


Remember yesterday on Aim? Well, while we were talking, I lost my internet AND phone connection. The company had technical difficulties, for no one was picking up the calls when my dad called them. So I didn't just ditch you for no reason...yeah.--Tavisource 22:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

That's internet service for ya. TTEchidna 02:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

History Heading

On main pages for main characters pokémon there was a heading like the above saying history:

However Jmath is removing these:

Is this okay, or should we put them back?

----HoennMaster 02:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Sometimes they need them, sometimes they don't. Jmath and anyone else should make sure to know this and to determine it based on the rest of the page. TTEchidna 02:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
As in, they need 'em if the first section is too long. In instances like May's Wartortle, it damn well is! TTEchidna 02:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


Did you see the e-mail I sent you? --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 02:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Not yet. I don't check it too often... TTEchidna 02:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


I was wondering for a while with an issue over the male tuber. Here's what I wrote: Is there a male tuber for FR/LG? If not, we can add to trivia that though it doesn't appear for FR/LG, it does appear in Sis and Bro...

Anyway, do you know? If not, we can also edit the sprite of Sis and Bro and FR/LG to say that this is the male Tuber. ht14 03:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, actually, if there's a male tuber programmed into FRLG. Ask on the forums. TTEchidna 03:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, but does it exist? That's what I'm wondering....also, why in Mystery Dungeon do Staryu/mie blink? I don't get that... ht14 03:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
That's what I meant. The people on the forums might know... TTEchidna 03:35, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Original Series and Advanced Generation Episode Lists

So I just saw the AG episode list expanded to split the two Deoxys episodes, but I believe you mentioned something about changing the Original Series episode list after Episode 38? What changes? I only say the two Christmas episodes added, but are there any number changes?

----HoennMaster 03:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

No, we're not changing the numbers. I decided, HHJ and SWO stay as specials, but are placed in canon order on the list. TTEchidna 03:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, one last question. I was putting the favorite episode tags onto my profile, and the picture for DP038 won't work. I copied and pasted the title, and it won't work. It is the only pci I'm having problems with.

----HoennMaster 04:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Someone uploaded it with exclamation points, which screw up for some. TTEchidna 04:19, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

It's doing that for DP076 as well.

----HoennMaster 04:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Exclamation points. Again. Sigh. Can you help a guy out by making a list of files with !'s and ?'s in them? TTEchidna 04:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I think I found them all:

AG049 on the Advanced Genration list, although the AG049 page doesn't even use that pic. AG101 (unaired) AG110 AG117 I don't know if you want this, but the picutres for AG128 and AG129 are from the correct episode, but the name of the episodes are switched around. AG130 AG132 AG134 AG149 AG167 AG189

DP004 DP005 DP009 DP013 DP039 DP041 DP067 DP069

EP183 EP212 EP214 EP215 EP219 EP220 EP221 EP223 EP225 EP226 EP228 EP229 EP230 EP231 EP235 EP237 EP239 EP240 EP244 EP248 EP249 EP250 EP252 EP256 EP258 EP261 EP262 EP265 EP266 EP267 EP268 EP270 EP271 EP273 - unsigned comment from HoennMaster (talkcontribs)

Ouch. Uhm... wanna help by saving them and reuploading them as their epicode, then marking the duplicate for deletion? There's no way to move images, so we gotta just delete them. TTEchidna 05:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know know how to save and upload them...

----HoennMaster 05:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Click on the image on its page, then just save it from the browser. Then go to Archives and upload it. TTEchidna 05:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Another reason to not to use Aywanajp's images... You might find more if you search through her sockpuppets. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 00:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok so I did the DP episodes, but It said I was creating duplicates of the pictures, is that ok? I couldn't see another way to do it.

----HoennMaster 02:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

We'll take care of the duplicates later. TTEchidna 02:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Done! Or At Least I Think So.

----HoennMaster 05:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a question

Should a Dynamic Punch Replace a Sky Uppercut, Headbutt, or Mach Punch?~Ποκεμανιακα0β 02:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Or should it not be learned compared to the other attacks?~Ποκεμανιακα0β 02:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Depends, is accuracy, power, or effect percentage important? Do you plan on having a Wide Lens on the Pokémon? Is it a Machamp with No Guard? TTEchidna 02:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
I have Emerald, I have a Breloom, I want damage dealing attacks, I dont want healing attacks...~Ποκεμανιακα0β 02:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Magnedeth says no so no~Ποκεμανιακα0β 02:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Brel makes a good seedsubber, and also a sweet SD Mach Puncher. If you really want DynamicPunch, Mind Reader comes free with it. But I won't recommend it. The best moveset I can think of is Toxic Orb, Swords Dance, Mach Punch, Spore, Seed Bomb. Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 03:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Hmm.. Well i'm just playing emerald in preparation for Platinum~Ποκεμανιακα0β 03:29, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


You know how most wikis (including ours) often have a "This Week's Featured Article" thing? How about we do a "This Month's Featured Stub" to encorage the expansion of undederveloped arcticles? --Manga-in-a-bottle 05:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Good plan, but I dunno how we'd pick it... TTEchidna 05:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Just make it random, I guess --Manga-in-a-bottle 05:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Only thing is, a featured stub probably wouldn't be a stub for the whole month. It sounds like a really fun way to all work on stubs though, and with enough attention, it could go pretty fast... random sounds pretty good, I wonder if there's a way to system-generate a random list of only stub articles? Sort of like Special:Random. As stubs get filled out, they lose stub status, become full articles, and the next random stub jumps to the front page. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Me like. This is a good idea. (By the way, you noticed how MIAB said that most wikis (including ours) often have a "This Week's Featured Article" thing...? Well, it's almost two months since Brock... We keep contradicting our own words...) --electAbuzzzz 09:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe not do it "of the month" but having an article that needs work on the front page until it is looking shiny would be a good way to encourage the wiki magic. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 19:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Who wants to randomly decide one, or should I? TTEchidna 20:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
If you pick, we should consolidate first. I have made some stubs that I am working on getting information for, and I would like only people who know what they are doing touching the article. I don't want to have to constantly fix something that would have not been a problem if it wasn't the "featured" one. MoldyOrange 21:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
May I suggest Pokémon Live!? It's a shame this is still a stub... If you want something more mainstream to begin with, one of the location stubs would probably be a good choice. --electAbuzzzz 14:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia: Shortcuts

Hey TTE, do you think we should have shortcuts for Nominations for administratorship & Featured article candidates? I have noticed many other other Bulbapedia: namespace areas do have shortcuts, such as the Manual of style having MOS and BP:MOS. I'm more than willing to make the redirects if you feel they would be useful. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 06:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Go for it. TTEchidna 06:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


Looks like we have a spamvertisor on our hands. Just look what it did to Aoi! [1] - Kogoro | Talk to me | 08:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Blocked. I also removed the revision from the page's history, just so the links aren't still buried in there. (not sure if my method is the best way to get rid of such edits, however.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I figured it would do that... TTEchidna 18:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
On the subject; it mentions in the blocking policy that "contaminated history should also be deleted if possible". Is there a "normal" way to delete the history? (My method is to delete the page, then restore all but the edits in question.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 01:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
It's the only way I know how to. Tedious for a page with a bazillion edits... but we just hope they don't hit those. TTEchidna 04:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Check-off the top of the list, scroll to the bottom, and hold Shift while clicking the bottom of the list. That'll select everything. Then you just de-select the problem edits.
I'm more bothered by having to delete and un-delete whole pages just to do it, but I don't see much else as far as options. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:55, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Jmath's admin nomination

Jmath was nominated for adminship on September 17th, and today's October 17th. So, it is time for the EB to make a decision. Just reminding you. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 14:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Sprites and stuff..

With things like Event Pokémon lists, and other list prior to Generation IV.. Which sprite is more preferable?

  • The latest
  • The sprite of that generation

I'm thinking the latter, due to it representing that generation. Just wanting a second opinion on this one, since it isn't mentioned in the manual of style... Gywall(Talk) 15:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Latest please. TTEchidna 18:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for making your page closer to archiving...

But I was wondering if this table would work for the PMD locations:

Floor Pokémon

I mean, when people check out PMD locations...they want to know which Pokemon are on each floor, right? Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 05:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. TTEchidna 05:14, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't know...That format could cause gaps when it comes to floors that both introduce new Pokémon and carry over ones from a previous floor. Take Thunderwave Cave for example. In that format, there'd be a gap on floors 1 and 2 above Voltorb (who appears only on floors 3 through 5), while Rattata/Nidoran♀/Poochyena sits comfortably in the first three floors over Elekid/Plusle/Minun on the final two. The gaps and staggering would only get worse the deeper one gets into the game. --Shiningpikablu252 15:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Could you change my user name?

I'd like you to change my user name to "Chocolate", and here's why:

My current user name is misleading. I mean, the word "baby". A baby is a very young person, and it can also be used to describe a hot girl. I'm neither. And the "G", well, it's supposed to stand for "gangsta", so my name means either "young gangsta" or "female gangsta", which I'm not any of those.

A name like "Chocolate" is much better IMO. No, I'm not made outta chocolate, but I just like that name WAY better.

So, could you please change it? --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 20:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay... if you insist. No undoing it. TTEchidna 22:28, 18 October 2008 (UTC)