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I was trying to edit section 5 of black and white walkthrough and I really messed up. Now the bottom half of the page is missing. I really need help,SM.Can u pls undo what i did? I am really really sorry for the trouble I caused! I really am!! I didnt know who else to contact.[[User:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:green">'''Auraguardian'''</span>]][[User talk:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:red">'''197'''</span>]] 19:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I was trying to edit section 5 of black and white walkthrough and I really messed up. Now the bottom half of the page is missing. I really need help,SM.Can u pls undo what i did? I am really really sorry for the trouble I caused! I really am!! I didnt know who else to contact.[[User:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:green">'''Auraguardian'''</span>]][[User talk:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:red">'''197'''</span>]] 19:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. In the future, all you need to do is go to the page's "history" tab, click the "diff" link next to the edit you want to revert, and then click "undo" near the top-right. Any user can do it, not just staff members. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. In the future, all you need to do is go to the page's "history" tab, click the "diff" link next to the edit you want to revert, and then click "undo" near the top-right. Any user can do it, not just staff members. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
::Thank u,Pumpkinking.[[User:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:green">'''Auraguardian'''</span>]][[User talk:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:red">'''197'''</span>]] 19:13, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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The random Pokemon thingy

can I have it? I cant edit my userpage yet but once I can it might look nice there. - unsigned comment from Latias1290 (talkcontribs)

Go ahead and use it if you want (once you have userspace rights). --SnorlaxMonster 14:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Thx :) - unsigned comment from Latias1290 (talkcontribs)


It's lacking the two fields for those version-exclusive Pokémon from Diamond and Pearl. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

To my knowledge this only applies to Magby/Elekid, whose pages already seem to have a different method of handling it. Is it needed? --SnorlaxMonster 11:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Glameow has Cheri Berry, and is exclusive to Pearl. Stunky holds Pecha, exclusive to Diamond. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 11:54, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Version exclusives' held items, not version-exclusive held items. Updated. --SnorlaxMonster 12:18, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Not exactly. Changing "dp1" to "d1" for Mightyena gave me Soothe Bell instead of Pecha Berry. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:26, 5 January 2013 (UTC) PS. And yes, field has Pecha Berry (with 5%; while Soothe Bell has... 100%). Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:30, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Should be fixed now. --SnorlaxMonster 12:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

About my new BerryInfobox

Any word on it? I'll probably need to work it back into a template though... --Abcboy (talk) 06:25, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I haven't gotten it approved (or tried to), no. Making the templates would be a good idea though. Maybe use {{berries color}} rather than the blue that's already there though? --SnorlaxMonster 11:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I've changed all but the Berry locations template to use the Berry colors. To make it support both Berries exclusive to Generation III and those exclusive to Generation IV and beyond, practically all of them are completely collapsed. --Abcboy (talk) 18:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Something else: should we have Sevii Isle 1 redirect to Kindle Road or is that too much of a stretch? Also, should the list of routes reflect the index number ordering? --Abcboy (talk) 22:23, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Go ahead and put all the templates on their own pages; unfortunately only the Editorial Board can authorize userspace policy exclusions, so I suggest you ask one of them. Once you've given the templates their own subpages, fix up the Pecha Berry example you made; it's hard for people to really judge it if you haven't got it set up completely. As for Sevii Isle redirects, I doubt anyone would be searching using them so I don't think they're necessary. I don't like the number of things the List of routes in the Pokémon world includes anyway, but I suppose reflecting the internal ordering would be a good idea. --SnorlaxMonster 06:13, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Werdnae has given me permission to grant you an exemption from the userspace limit for splitting the templates off your page. --SnorlaxMonster 06:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! I'll get that done soon. --Abcboy (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Hey, can you tell me whether the following situations are worthy of their own warning templates?
  • Editing a page multiple times but in different sections each time
  • Not using link templates
  • To use better grammar/spelling
  • Having userspace content in the user talk namespace
  • Adding something, removing it, then adding it back
I could easily type up a message for each of these, but some of them are prevalent enough that I have to type them out repeatedly. Any opinions? --Abcboy (talk) 00:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Editing a page multiple times but in different sections each time - maybe
  • Not using link templates - sure
  • To use better grammar/spelling - no, because this typically requires pointing out specific issues
  • Having userspace content in the user talk namespace - maybe
  • Adding something, removing it, then adding it back - I don't think it's necessary
Any that you think you want please make in the userspace first. --SnorlaxMonster 13:48, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

B button glitch removal

I'd like to know your rationale for removing three B-button related glitches from the List of glitches in Generation V page. All three alter the behavior of the NPCs in some way or another that is not listed or mentioned in the games in any way by anybody. Chicobo329 (talk) 11:18, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied on the talk page. I had intended to anyway, but I was going to wait until I had done further cleanup of the page. However, I may have ended up forgetting, so thanks for reminding me. Anyway, I may have been a bit too stern in my edit summary; I know that there had been a debate about it, and it had been removed and readded before (well, a while ago), so I was trying to ensure there was not an edit war. --SnorlaxMonster 16:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I read the talk page and this. So you're just going on the safe side! I don't completely agree with the reasoning but I will respect your decision and I certainly start any edit wars over it. Chicobo329 (talk) 22:31, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

a question

I was wondering about adding a personality section to Zinzolin's page. There is certainly enough to work with there, but I noticed many villians do not have this section. My question is, should I add this section to Zinzolin's page, and possibly others? Icestar649 (talk) 20:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about the late response, but we don't usually do personality sections on game characters. I don't think Zinzolin needs one right now, but maybe all game characters could get personality sections at a later time. --SnorlaxMonster 04:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your response. Icestar649 (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


Needs to include Pikachu; as it's Berry if traded from RB, and Light Ball if from Yellow. (well, at least it was that way in article before all the changes and splites) Marked +-+-+ (talk) 20:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Non-issue. It is already set up for Pikachu (as seen here), and was even set up at the time you sent this message. --SnorlaxMonster 13:44, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


Lacks third field for wilderness in Gen III (Oran Berry; Shuckle has 100%, Raticate* has 50% while Sentret and Zigzagoon have 5%). I would do this myself, but I don't want to break anything on that template. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 10:12, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Looks like you've handled this now. --SnorlaxMonster 13:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon Dream Radar

Yesterday when I was with my friend to whom I've been helping with the Dream Radar stuff, I've had six Items, Six Regular Pokémon, Landorus, and all Five Generation IV legendaries and only the Items and all 6 legendaries went during the first data transfer, so I don't know if more legendaries can be sent. -Tyler53841 (talk) 14:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know what would happen if you had more than 6 legendary Pokémon. I'm fairly sure only 6 could be transferred, but I don't know if a new row is added. --SnorlaxMonster 14:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
But in other news I do know that the amount of Dream Orbs collected is what opens the other extensions and with each member of the Kami Trio a lot more is needed for their extensions which will be difficult to pin down correctly. I mean I made two runs during the late night the previous night and I barely got things ready when I went to go meet my friend even with the amount of Dream Clouds I have. If you want you could mention the waiting time for the Dream Clouds since it starts at 45 minutes max, for all clouds to be ready with 4, 25 minute upgrades that increases it up to 145 minutes or 2 hrs. 25 min. I'll take care of the final beam upgrade coloring when I get to it, right now I am over 500 Dream Orbs. -Tyler53841 (talk) 14:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
The regeneration time is just one cloud every five minutes. I had read on other sites that they are unlocked with total Dream Orbs (and it is implied in the manual), but it is better not to use other site's info. Unfortunately the amounts are not specified in-game or in the manual. --SnorlaxMonster 14:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Good idea, and by the way I was at least over 3,000 Dream Orbs when I caught Landorus, but there isn't enough proof to accurately estimate each amount without risking speculation. The unlock method for those extensions might just have to use just simple explanations. -Tyler53841 (talk) 14:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
I just wanted to say thanks for the help and pretty much the Dream Radar page is mostly complete. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:50, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

This just in. If you use five play coins from the 3DS, then it can be used to instantly regenerate all of the remaining Dream Clouds that still need to regenerate. Since I don't know much about how to get play coins it is the reason I am sending you a message since I recently got my 3DS and don't have much experience on these matters yet. -Tyler53841 (talk) 01:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh, that's not already in the article? I knew that you could do that. As for how to get them: the 3DS has a pedometer built into it; if you walk around with the 3DS on in your pocket, you can get up to 10 Play Coins per day. --SnorlaxMonster 02:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
That would explain what happened after I forgot to turn the 3DS off, but yeah I checked the article first to avoid sending a pointless message. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:32, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Took care of it as best I could, if you wish to improve it go ahead I won't mind. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:37, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Xerneas and Yveltal talk

Can you please check the latest Xerneas and Yveltal talk if you have some spare time? Some nice contents to add and discuss, we'd like to hear you out. Thanks. Tano (talk) 20:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Ghetsis as Royalty

How do you know that it's a translation typo?

Jdogno4 (talk) 01:11, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Because I got the Japanese text and translated it myself, and it says "loyal". So it coming up as "royal" in English must of have been a typo (you could call it a mistranslation, but I'd rather assume typo since royal and loyal are one character away). --SnorlaxMonster 06:36, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Understood. Jdogno4 (talk) 23:49, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Shiny chances

SnorelaxMonster, I was wondering If you could tell me what the chances of obtaining a Shiny Charmander and Shiny Eevee in Pokemon FireRed? Thanks,PokeCat3333 (talk) 12:35, 14 January 2013 (UTC)♥

Refer here. While starting a discussion on another topic,do so in a new section.Auraguardian197 14:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Two things.

1)As I mentioned earlier, it might be good idea to update the pages for some species not from Unova (the changed exp yield, as currently pages have the Gen IV yield as far as I know, while the EV yield list has Gen V yield)

2)Lum Berry - Not sure if to delete these wild, because none of these Pokémon are legitimately found within a game (with one exception, which can be left out as it's legit). It says "This is in the data. Don't take it out.", but do we list these impossible things (eg. Kingdra for Generation III and IV games) on species' pages? No, we list that here instead, including Berries. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 13:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

  1. We should have notes on List of Pokémon by effort value yield for the new values (I'm not really sure about that situation).
  2. No, I don't think we should list those held items on species pages. Not visibly at least—I don't mind if they're hidden and noted as being hidden because they are unobtainable. --SnorlaxMonster 13:43, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


Thought I fixed that error, but you were right to undo that. I should look more carefully next time before adding back an error I thought I took care of... T_T It happens, I guess. Berrenta (talk) 03:33, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


Why did you change my userpage pic? Arceus101 (talk) 20:16, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

The picture there was low quality and unused elsewhere. Since we don't allow personal images, it was deleted so I replaced it with another image of Pikachu (although the image I removed was not the original image anyway; Spriteit had replaced your original image with it when it was deleted for being a personal image). --SnorlaxMonster 08:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


Looks like 173penguin, who happens to be new at the website... well, I think you remember the story, as recently you undid many prejudicial edits by him to the Missingno. page. But he didn't understand, so did the same thing again, with a much bigger number of edits (now I've told him on his talk page that he shouldn't do that kind of edits), and now the whole top of the history page (except for a failed attempt of putting an end to that) is covered by less-than-begginer edits. Well, I don't want to manualy undo each edit (would clog up and... you know, probably skip at least one... whatever-it wouldn't be nice), so could you please, as a staff member, revert again to the last edit before all of that and put a quick end to this nightmare? TheOriginalOne 00:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I've rollbacked him. I won't leave him a message since you already have and there is another message about the preview button. Also, if you want to undo a lot of edits, rather than undoing them all individually, you can view an old revision then click the Edit tab; this then puts the old revision in the edit box, so you can just save and take the article back to how it was then. --SnorlaxMonster 01:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Ah... I just talked to you because I didn't find out how to do it, and so I tought only staff members could rollback on that way... well, anyway, thanks for both things. TheOriginalOne 00:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Just to clarify, only staff can rollback, but the method I provided works for everyone. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


Figured it can't hurt to get a staff member's opinion on this, if you don't mind. :) Drake Clawfang (talk) 05:14, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

So, I made a template for 7-member stat comparison here, and tested it here, looks good to me. If it's satisfactory all that needs to be done I think is move it to a mainspace template. Drake Clawfang (talk) 03:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

There were a few parameters using the wrong color (making it really hard to read Umbreon's name due to being in Water blue, for example), but I've fixed them. I also replaced all the align= code with text-align: and margin:auto. I like it and think it should be fine to use. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Cool. So, do I make the template, or does a staff member have to? Drake Clawfang (talk) 13:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Also, it appears the bars are not aligning properly for the stats, that is to say, some of the 60 and 65 bars are the same length as the 95 and+ bars and vice-versa. Drake Clawfang (talk) 13:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Fixed that issue and implemented it. There's no rule that only staff members can implement templates, it's just better that they do if the change is controversial or widespread; if unsure, better to check with a staff member. Also, it's a good idea to check with a staff member first if you're inexperienced with templates (like I get the indication you are from your template). --SnorlaxMonster 14:29, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Aye, why I posted it here. :) I know enough about basic wikia coding (like, I understand how to change the colors and numbers on that template), but the more complex stuff like how you make those bars appear, no idea how that's done. Thanks for cleaning it up. Drake Clawfang (talk) 22:28, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
It's a bit disappointing that now the template has to be redone to include the Sylveon as well. Oh well, at least it can wait until we get its base stats (which likely won't be until after the release). --SnorlaxMonster 16:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Missing Abilities

Two missing Abilities are quite disturbing me at the momement: Greta's Heracross's Ability, plus the Ability of the wild Electrode that can be encountered at the Battle Pike. I almost saw Heracross's Ability in one video when a Trainer sent out Gardevoir, but obviously it didn't have Trace, so too bad. I think it could be Swarm, since I don't notice any kind of attack boost during status conditions, but I can't be sure if I've missed something. Do you know some person, possibly in Bulbapedia, who could know enough about this, or at least offer some clues, have an access to the Emerald version, or at least something? Thank you. Sorry if I disturbed you in the middle of something important. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:31, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't even there, so you didn't disturb me. I have Emerald, but I've never really been that good at the Battle Frontier in Emerald—I got up to Noland and Lucy once each (this is mostly due to my team sucking). I don't personally know anyone who could do this, but all it needs is someone with a cheating device to go into the Battle Frontier and force catch them. The Electrode however I had always assumed would just have a random Ability due to being a wild Pokémon. Greta... it's fairly hard to test that without something like Transform, Trace or Skill Swap unless you're cheating. If anyone knows though, it's probably Jumpman16; he's got a reputation for being pretty experienced with battle facilities. --SnorlaxMonster 11:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much. Even though it seems that he hasn't been active for a week or two, I'll leave a message on his talk page, and wait for the answer. Arigato! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

usertag error?

I noticed that the "does not like mudkip" usertag when used in a userpage displays the text as "This user does NOT liek Mudkipz". As you can see there are obvious errors but nobody has corrected them. Can you tell me why ? Hope I'm not disturbing you!Auraguardian197 17:28, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-herd-u-like-mudkips --SnorlaxMonster 17:31, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Got it.Thank you,SM!Auraguardian197 18:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Grammar dispute

Okay, we'll agree to disagree and it will be left on that note. Jdogno4 (talk) 00:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

This reply indicates that you misunderstood the issue. This is not a matter of opinion, it is a mater of fact. And it is a fact that Iris's is just as grammatically correct as Iris'. Choosing to use Iris's or Iris' is a matter of opinion, but the fact that they are both correct is not. Here is the source Jo provided one your talk page, which explains that they are both correct. The Oatmeal has a comic where he points out both are acceptable.
Now since it is a matter of preference as to which is used, the reason we use s's is that it is less ambiguous and easier to template. TTE always liked to point out that James' Carnevine could belong to one person named James or more than one Jame, whereas James's Carnevine belongs to James. Also, templates like {{TP}} and {{OP}} all template in <name>'s <pokemon>, so it makes it far easier to template for the pages if they are titled with s's. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Tamato Berries on Route 5

Some users have been questioning the availability of Tamato Berries on Unova Route 5 through the Pokemon Breeder. I have received them from her in the past but I never thought it to be an issue where I'd have to get some video proof over it until now. Until I get them again from her and get some video proof (I am trying every day), what can I do to appease the others on the talkpage that seem to want more verification? Should I keep the Tamato information up or remove it? Chicobo329 (talk) 03:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

It's quite possible the chances are based on ID number. Anyway, you can soft reset and get different Berries every time, so I tried that a lot but came up with no Tamato Berries. Until we actually get someone getting Tamato Berries again, it's probably best it gets removed. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Random Pokemon Template

May I please use it on my Userpage?TurtleLover1999 (talk) 16:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure. There are a bunch of people already doing so anyway (although I do like it when people ask permission before just taking it). --SnorlaxMonster 16:25, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you!TurtleLover1999 (talk) 22:40, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


Needs cleaning up because someone didn't check earlier games and now we have a mess with what is new in Gen IV and what actually was there since earlier Generations. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:04, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Small question

Do we really need the redirect page Backpack? The command has always been called either BAG, PACK, or ITEMS. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 19:58, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, primarily it is probably for the item in the anime. It doesn't do any harm existing, so I'm fine with it. --SnorlaxMonster 01:42, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
At the very least, I think it would make a bit more sense to move the redirect to Pack, which would coexist a bit better with the games. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 12:43, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
There is now a redirect from pack as well. There is no limit on the number of redirects to a page. --SnorlaxMonster 12:47, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


Needs note for normal Kyurem. While the fusions learn the fusion moves at Lv. 43, normal Kyurem learns instead Scary Face. And since I can't edit it... Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:50, 13 March 2013 (UTC) PS. Glaciate could use that note, though it's already mentioned to be normal Kyurem signature. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. --SnorlaxMonster 13:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Not really evident and "slightly opinionated"?

What do you mean by "not really evident" in relation to Arceus' behavior? Jdogno4 (talk) 05:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

What is "slightly opinionated" about Arceus'(M12) personality and characteristics? Jdogno4 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

"intelligent, heroic and benevolent" are all subjective, unless they are used officially. And I don't think those traits were overly evident in the movie either. --SnorlaxMonster 10:30, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Redone GB Sounds article

Do you like it? Your template needs some improvements, though. The Dream World artwork should be an optional parameter and there must be a way to specify that an item is only available in a given generation. SatoMew 17:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, I tried performing the GB Sounds glitch on my European English HeartGold and it seems to be fixed. So you might want to check that out on the American English and other localizations to confirm if it is only present in the Japanese versions. SatoMew 00:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Overall I like your page; I hadn't really planned for it to be used on pages without artwork (most items have DW art, key items in Gen V have key item obtain sprites, and most other key items at least have some form of artwork like the Old Sea Chart). I've set up the template to include an exception for items with no art, but it doesn't look as nice anymore.
I have done the glitch before in my Australian version (which is probably the same as the European one), and just tried it then and it worked. I had a lot of trouble figuring out how to get it to work originally (see User talk:TheOriginalOne#GB Sounds glitch, and that's not the only conversation we had about it), but it does occur. Chances are the issue you're having is the same as mine was: the glitch will not occur if you use the GB Sounds as a registered item; you must open the Bag and use it from there. --SnorlaxMonster 14:50, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I understand your concern about the template kinda losing its charm but it doesn't look that bad either, in my opinion. Now all you need to add is a parameter to specify that the item is only available/present in a single generation. In the case of the GB Sounds, this would instead read "Only in Generation IV" as opposed to "Introduced in Generation IV" (disregarding the fact that it is present in the internal data of the Generation V games, of course).
I don't have the GB Sounds registered so I always called it from the Bag when attempting to perform the glitch. I also made sure no wild Pokémon encounters took place and the glitch still didn't work. Maybe it has to do with the tiles you Surf on between Route 20 and Cinnabar Island, since I always kept at least one tile from the border between the locations. SatoMew 18:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
(Funny, I found a conversation that is somehow a repetition of what happened between me and SnorlaxMonster more than one year ago) Well, are you SURE you did turn on the GBS while SURFING at one of the locations, and off while STILL SURFING in THE OTHER ONE? Or are you even sure you didn't have in turned on in Cinnabar and Route 20 before trying to do this and since you had flown there for the last time? TheOriginalOne 23:23, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I followed the instructions from the linked YouTube video in the article where the glitch is documented. SatoMew 00:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, the simplest way I can get it to work is to simply go to Route 20 with normal music, open the Bag and turn the GB Sounds on, close the Bag and menu then open the Bag again and disable it (all while surfing); this results in instant silence. If that doesn't work, I don't know what the problem is. - unsigned comment from SnorlaxMonster (talkcontribs)
I guess I found out what I was doing wrong so I attempted the glitch again and it worked. So yeah, it's confirmed to be present in both Japanese versions and all worldwide English releases. However, other localizations might have it fixed. SatoMew 13:59, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

The European versions were the last ones. Or did you want to test the korean version? (it's older anyway) There are many glitches that are much more easily noticed than this one and that are not corrected tough. My discovery was just luck (a glitch that was just discovered 2 years after the game first came out), and this glitch isn't particularly important anyway. There are a lot of glitches registered in bulbapedia. Do you think we individually test each of them on all the versions of the same game, including the korean one, which is normally the last to come out? TheOriginalOne 16:04, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I didn't imply any of that. But the reason I brought it up is because certain glitches do get fixed in the localizations, like at least some of what I collectively call "overworld sprite repositioning glitches" (old man on the roof in Cinnabar Island, etc.) in Generation I. SatoMew 18:14, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, but the European localization was the last one for HGSS. TheOriginalOne 20:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Template edit

Sorry, but I'm that kind of guy who just likes to rush into action, without going through some boring, long, time-taking, eternal discussions first. And besides, it was an OK edit, right? What do I need to do to make it approved? PLEASE!! I would at least SOMETIMES get to make some cool, BIG edits without someone getting in my way with details like this! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
PS. Sorry about that, but, I'm just a little sensitive about these "nasty surprises" that Bulbapedia sometimes has to offer. So anyway, could you please answer what do I have to do in order to get my (completely mature and OK) edit back up again?

I agree, things tend to sit in "discussion phase" for far too long on Bulbapedia (see all my proposed stuff in my userspace). I actually have another design of that template, and I think it's best to submit the idea and see what people think before making a change that affects a huge number of pages (and the template in question should have been protected anyway, something which I have now fixed). --SnorlaxMonster 12:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Your template suggestion was not bad, but I think that my version made it more clear which game had which leaders. So, if you could be so nice, please give my suggestion at least a thought, okay? :D --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Marked +-+-+/Learnlist templates

Someone might wanna do something with this. It's lying there, untouched for a while. I am not sure if it's exactly... good (since I could miss a small thing that's damn important for fully correct functionality), but it might be good idea to update old movesets to the Gen V's standard. It'll make stuff less confusing.* Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:20, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon Mobile System GB stuff

Compatible software

We should make a table of compatible Mobile System GB software (not the Pokémon version, that is) but I'm not sure how exactly.

PokéCom Center-related

GS Ball event

The reason why I put the incomplete notification on the section for the events held by the PokéCom Center is because I'm not sure of the following:

  • The true name of the minigame known as "Chieko Dice" as I don't see it being called that way (see below);
  • The so-called "ten card quiz" may be incorrect as I see the quiz involving 5 questions for the April 2001 event and 8 for the May 2001 event, as described here and here, respectively.

Those links also refer to the minigame as 「チエコ」にサイコロ, with サイコロ being the Japanese term for the dice game. It also mentions that チエコ Chieko is from Azalea Town.

To put it simply, we do know there was a minigame involving dice and that there were quizzes but we're not sure on the minigame's name and the actual amount of questions in the quiz or quizzes.

Trade Corner info

It probably needs expansion based on this unused English text (taken from the text dump I have—it's probably missing internal placeholder strings; I also adapted the text and replaced the caps with the <sc> tag):

Hello! Welcome to PokéCom Center Trade Corner.
You can trade Pokémon with other people far away.

To make a trade, we must hold your Pokémon.
Would you like to trade?

What kind of Pokémon do you want in return?

Fine. We will try to trade your for .
We'll have to hold your Pokémon during the trade.
Please wait while we prepare the room for it.

Fine. We will try to trade your for a Pokémon that you have never seen.
We'll have to hold your Pokémon during the trade.
Please wait while we prepare the room for it.

Your trade Pokémon has been received.
It will take time to find a trade partner. Please come back later.

Oh? You have only one Pokémon in your party.
Please come back once you've increased the size of your party.

We hope to see you again.

Communication error...

If we accept that Pokémon, what will you battle with?

Sorry. We can't accept an Egg.

Sorry, but your Pokémon appears to be abnormal. We can't accept it.

Oh? Aren't we already holding a Pokémon of yours?

We'll check the rooms.
Please wait.

Thank you for your patience.
A trade partner has been found.

It's your new partner.
Please take care of it with love.
We hope to see you again.

Uh-oh. Your party is already full.
Please come back when you have room in your party.

It's unfortunate, but no one has come forward as a trade partner.
Would you like your Pokémon back?

We have returned your Pokémon.

It's unfortunate, but no one has come forward as a trade partner.
We've held your Pokémon for a long time. As a result, it is very lonely.
Sorry, but we must return it to you.

We hope to see you again.

Fine. We will continue to hold your Pokémon.

Oh? You left your Pokémon with us only recently.
Please come back later.

We'll Save before connecting to the Center.

Which Pokémon do you want to trade?

Sorry, but we must cancel the trade.

Odd Egg

Same as above.

I see you have an Egg Ticket!
It's a coupon that special people can redeem for a special Pokémon!

Let me give you a quick briefing.
Trades held at the Trade Corner are between two trainers who don't know each other's identity.
As a result, it may take time.
However, an Odd Egg is available just for you.
It will be sent to you right away.
Please choose one of the rooms in the Center.
An Odd Egg will be sent from the chosen room.

Please wait a moment.

Thank you for waiting.
We received your Odd Egg.
Here it is!
Please raise it with loving care.

I'm awfully sorry.
The Egg Ticket exchange service isn't running now.

Pokémon News Machine

It's a Pokémon News Machine.

What would you like to do?

Pokémon News is news compiled from the Save files of Pokémon trainers.
When reading the News, your Save file may be sent out.
The Save file data will contain your adventure log and mobile profile.
Your phone number will not be sent.
The contents of the News will vary depending on the Save files sent by you and the other Pokémon trainers.
You might even be in the News!

Would you like to get the News?

Reading the latest News... Please wait.

There is no old News...

The News data is corrupted.
Please download the News again.

We're making preparations.
Please come back later.

We will Save your progress before starting the News Machine.

It's all for now but it's already more than enough! SatoMew 17:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

I do intend to get back to you (and all the other outstanding comments on my talk page), but I'm currently very busy and going away over Easter. Sorry for making you wait; I'll try to get back to you soon. --SnorlaxMonster 13:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Naming conventions for glitch pokémon sprites

Recently I've been very confused about this. I read what was stipulated here, and immediately noticed that it wasn't being followed on most images. There were many different models on those uploads - how I wish autoconfirmed users could move pages on the archives just like in bulbapedia... WAIT! Before you start doing anything, let me tell you why am I really concerned on this matter, which is the defect of the current convention: what about pokémon with more than one front/back sprite? Maybe putting a "2" at the end of one, but... what about Missingno.? Its sprite depends on the hexadecimal! In addition, there are a few glitch pokémon that share the same dex number... on the same game! And a possible other defect: are there any glitch pokémon that can either be shiny or not?

So, would you agree with, before a mass move of pages, changing the convention to "[game]Glitch[hex][_b][_2].png"? TheOriginalOne 23:52, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I came up with that as a convention for the files to be moved to and to use when uploading new ones; I haven't had time to move them all to the new convention (and generally leave menial tasks like that to other people). Apart from Missingno., glitch Pokémon in the Generation I and II games should only have one front and one back sprite. The standard is how they appear in battle; other sprites just aren't used. I don't think the _2 convention is necessary. Missingno.'s extra sprites are taken from other parts of the game (Fossil sprites and the ghost sprite) and follow those naming conventions rather than the glitch ones. Also, Missingno.'s other forms don't have a static Pokédex number; they copy what the Pokémon loaded had. As for its forms in Yellow... they should have different Pokédex entries. I really wish I had a Gen I game so I could accurately evaluate these kind of things, but unfortunately I don't. --SnorlaxMonster 11:58, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Nintendo Space World '97 flyer

The flyer

I found this old flyer for Nintendo Space World '97 on an archived 2ch thread, I believe. Then reverse-searched the image to find a copy in better resolution and quality. It seems to be announcing the Mew event at NSW '97 but I'm not sure. And I don't know where this could be used so I'm asking you to take a look at it, if you don't mind. SatoMew 22:24, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Me and SnorlaxMonster worked together to do the event page revamp, and events are a specialty of mine so I should be able to help a little. Based on the Space World '97 text from the official site, it is defiantly a poster detailing the Nintendo Space World '97 Mew. Also the poster does say that at most 10,000 people will receive Mew. However most text is still very small for translation, but the bottom appears to be describing the postcard submission process. It should be noted there appears to be a discrepancy in dates though, the offical site says November 22 to 24, 1997 while the poster appears to say November 22 to 23, 1997. As for the location of the poster, I would say somewhere on this page but I can't say where for certain. Lady Ariel 00:14, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
If the dates are inconsistent, it should be mentioned. Also, just a small correction: the referred number is 100,000 instead of 10,000 because 10万 is 10×10,000 or 104 ( means ten thousand). It's the same situation with the Japanese name of Thunderbolt. SatoMew 14:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


ForceFiretold me that I should talk to you. I created a glitch page in Pokemon Rumble Blast.Gelato Gelato (talk) 01:28, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

That would belong here, but I had someone who actually owns the game (I don't) to try it out and it didn't work apparently. If you can provide more detail so that it is repeatable, please do so (although preferably on the talk page). --SnorlaxMonster 13:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Archive Red Link

I noticed in your 6th archive, there is a red link to a nonexistent page (Unova Pokérap). Think you could fix that? :-) Frozen Fennec 03:31, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. --SnorlaxMonster 13:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Sky Drop Glitch

I tested the Sky Drop glitch on the Battle Subway's Double Lines in Black 2 and White 2 and the glitch activated. Not sure about link battles with other games though. Even if you think the glitch has been "fixed" we at least mention the glitch still works in the Battle Subway? --Relicant (talk) 13:06, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I tried in dark grass. I think it is worth mentioning that it still occurs in the Battle Subway though. B2W2-B2W2 link battles and the PWT are probably worth testing too though (and B2W2-BW link battles if it doesn't occur during B2W2-B2W2 link battles). --SnorlaxMonster 13:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


Added Gen I and II names. These are Japanese ones. I will also upload HGSS pictures (and BW pictures) after I get them. What about Japanese name of pockets? I guess I could get the Free Space since it's not a standard pocket. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 11:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

I've added their Japanese names to the page. I like the idea of adding Japanese names of the pockets too. --SnorlaxMonster 11:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Gah. HGSS is hard. Without Ethan (probably also applies to Lyra), some look odd, to the point that eg. Medicine pocket would normally look WITH Ethan. Any idea what to do with them? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
If it looks weird without Ethan, then just include him. --SnorlaxMonster 12:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Japanese names (Gen IV and V seems clear enough, if Gen II and III aren't, try pasting the screenshot from link in Paint). Would post yesterday, if not for the fact that it was too big to see things clearly and didn't had time to split into several (I didn't check Japanese HGSS or BW though, nor english B2W2 so no idea if it differs, though Gen IV has Status Healers from in-battle menu while BW retranslated it as Status Restore in; it seems this is English-only change unless I missed a small detail) The icon on Battle Bag can be in at least red (when checked on English version) and purple (when checked on Japanese one), no idea how exactly it works... well since this is done, I can upload bag sprites/looks, yay. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:55, 14 April 2013 (UTC) PS. HGSS done (well I would do that earlier but internet denied cooperation), now Unova games. Also, did you check the names I linked? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:23, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

AvailabilityGlitch template.

This template has sections for all generations I-V, but a split might be better for it. I'm thinking that the template should be split into two, one being Gen. I and II, the other being Gen. III-V. I think this because Gen. II and III cannot be linked together in any way, thus causing it to be impossible for a glitch to be related between them. What are your thoughts? --×Rsrdaman× 04:26, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

A missing thing needed

I just noticed that despite Mewtwo having a portrait in Pokémon Stadium, it seems that the portrait hasn't been uploaded to Bulbapedia, so do you know any active user who's good at uploading game images? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:59, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Number Disambiguation

I had started changing the number disambiguation pages to say Pokédex number instead of Regional Pokédex number since it mentions national dex as well, and ArcToraphim had undone my edits, so I asked him about it on his talk page, and he said that I should talk to a Bureaucrat about it before changing it back, so what do you think? -EVsandIVsaurs 20:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Barry's templates

I filled Barry's page with the missing team templates, which turned out to take so much space, that there is no room left for templates in the page anymore, making some of the templates incomplete. The team templates take so much space that they won't even fit into a single page, so I'm being pretty helpless here. Would you know what to do? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Stadium sprites

One thing I just noticed that bothers me: all the Pokémon that appeared in the Stadium games have their sprites from those games uploaded, but they don't fit into the Trainer templates. I think this should be fixed, so do you know any user who could help me with this? Thank you in advance. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:12, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Red/Blue Back Sprite list

Just made this. I was thinking of getting all 149 backsprites of the R/B Missingno. and making a sortable list. What do you think of the template?--×Rsrdaman× 22:52, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


Why did you undp my Trivia written in Starter Pokémon if the language was not correct you could have corrected it or you should have told me or the Trivia was not upto the mark ,Please kindly state reasons Thanks................. - unsigned comment from Viv (talkcontribs)

As I mentioned in my edit summary, Charmander is not the only Fire-type starter Pokémon that evolves into a Fire/Fighting type; this applies to Cyndaquil too. Only 3/5 Fire-type starter Pokémon evolve into a Fire/Fighting type, so it's not notable. --SnorlaxMonster 09:06, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh! sorry I forgot about Cyndaquil well you hadn't written Edit summary you can check anyways thanks...............--viv (talk) 09:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Here's the edit I made, with an edit summary. --SnorlaxMonster 09:15, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Two things

  • This really needs to be split since they're quite different. Okay, Ranger and PMD ranks are bit similar since you get them by doing missions (though the former is plot-related), but I can't really get any relation of these to the Contest Rank.

Marked +-+-+

PS.Also, why Template:AbilityInfobox isn't updated for Mystery Dungeon?*. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


why do i have to keep on saying this POKEMMO IS NOT A HACK!!!!!!!!!!Kingsisle (talk) 16:35, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

What PokéMMO? The only one I know is (heavily) based on FireRed and LeafGreen. Also, please put new entries on bottom on the page, not the top. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 17:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

it is not baised it is fire red the only thing it changes is the battle music and being an MMO - unsigned comment from Kingsisle (talkcontribs)

That it is an MMORPG and not a hack does not change the fact that it infringes on Nintendo's intellectual property. It will not get an article. Werdnae (talk) 01:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

It would not have even been released if it was a copyright infringement. Also it has permission FROM NENTENDO to even exist. Hacks are not infringement unless someone sells it then it is considered piracy. It's taking advantage of someone else's creativity.Kingsisle (talk) 16:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hellooooooooooooooo did you even read the message I put here?Kingsisle (talk) 19:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


Whenever I see a Pokémon episode in japanese on <name removed> or any other website after the end of the episode I don't get the Japenese ending theme Why? or the endings are not shown at the eand of the episode--Viv (talk) 09:10, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Please do not name places to watch the episodes illegally. As for why, it's not a legal distribution channel, so whoever put it there decided not to bother with that part. If it were legal, they wouldn't cut the credits off. Werdnae (talk) 18:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Legendary birds.

On their article it is said they are referred by this name... Was the term "legendary birds" ever officially used? If not, then we may do the same thing we did with muskeeters after their official name was revealed (using the official name when mentioning them, but putting a note in the article about the popular fandom nickname for them). Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:33, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessarily an official name for the trio. I feel like it's more him describing them (especially since official names tend to be capitalized). --SnorlaxMonster 14:34, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Still, we should put the Japanese variant on page since it says only "winged mirages" and no mention of what it was in original. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
The Japanese says まぼろしのつばさ, which I would translate as "phantom wings", and he does use it as if it is their name there. Still not sure about a move though. I'll add the Japanese to the page though. --SnorlaxMonster 14:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

New glitch

Friend, I believe that I have discovered a glitch in Generation I that is not yet noted on the glitch article. It is as minor as it could be, but nonetheless I think it deserves attention. Please get back to me. Erythro (talk) 16:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Could you provide more detail please? --SnorlaxMonster 16:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Certainly; thank you. When one mounts the Bicycle in Victory Road, the Bicycle music, of course, plays, supplanting the ordinary Victory Road music. I have found that if one falls through a hole in Victory Road, the Bicycle music will continue to play on the lower level, even though the player is no longer riding a Bicycle. The bike theme stops once the player enters and leaves a battle, and the normal cave music resumes. It is more of a quirk than a glitch, but I have never before seen it mentioned and thought you might like to know. Erythro (talk) 16:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I found a terrible quality YouTube video that shows what you mentioned. Once I find out if it occurs in Yellow, I'll be able to add it to the page in the correct spot. --SnorlaxMonster 17:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much; and thanks also for the welcome message on my talk page. I am sorry that I do not own a working copy of Yellow, otherwise I could check for you; I found the glitch in Red. Erythro (talk) 17:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Terribly sorry for eavesdropping but since I own Yellow version in both English and Japanese I can test it on those versions if you wish. --ZestyCactus 17:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey so I forgot I restarted my English Yellow version a while ago, so the file got swiped clean and I'm not as far as Victory Road yet. I finished the game in Japanese though so I went there and the Bicycle music didn't play at all! I went on and off the bike in the Indigo Plateau and outside the cave and it only played the cave/plateau music. I didn't hear the bike music at all. Very weird!! --ZestyCactus 22:09, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I hope that it is all right if I reply to you! Thanks very much for checking on the new glitch; maybe the issue in the Japanese Yellow is a quirk in itself. Erythro (talk) 01:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Question regarding merchandise articles and pertinence

During my random paging, I had come across numerous merchandise articles, ranging from gashapon figures, to trading figures, to a few licensed toys. After a very quick search and look in the figures category, I noticed that there were no indications of the Bandai D-arts figure line. I happen to own one of the figures (Mewtwo) and would like to possibly create an article regarding that figure line, provided with proper sources and press releases, which I can acquire elsewhere.

That said, is there a specific protocol to merchandise articles? Would such an article be necessary? The D-arts line is relatively new, as the first figure (Mewtwo) was released in March, after an announcement in October. Blastoise and Charizard were also announced for the line. So, if you could enlighten me on the proper protocol for merchandise articles, it would be appreciated. Thanks. Trak Nar (talk) 09:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Basically, if it's officially licensed and produced in a reasonable quantity, then it would qualify for an article. The thing is that in most cases merchandise isn't widely promoted, and it isn't usually something people go out of their way to write articles for.
As for how to format the article, I can't exactly describe it, but what I usually do is find an article on a similar topic and format the new article like that one (although often I then decide I want things a different way and edit the first article as well). --SnorlaxMonster 10:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Though I was able to import my figure through Big Bad Toystore, and others had used similar importers, as far as I know, the line was intended to be distributed primarily in Japan. However, a contact of mine did mention that an import store that he frequents had stocked the figures, so there is a level of overseas distribution. As far as I know, it is due to a licensing deal with Bluefin, which I assume handles the imports. I will need to double-check that.
These figures are not necessarily mass-market merchandise, but rather licensed high-end collectibles. Mewtwo cost me around $60, and that was just after release. Pre-orders went around $50-60, and after-market values have increased to over $100. So, in terms of uniqueness, the line could qualify for an article on the grounds of it being marketed toward collectors, rather than children. The figures themselves are highly-articulated and average in size around six inches.
As for the promotion, I would need to double-check on that. The line is promoted in Japanese magazines, as far as I know. What those magazines are, I cannot say for certain without further information from several of my sources. Trak Nar (talk) 10:13, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
We don't usually delete merchandise articles for lack of notability. We're pretty relaxed there. If you think it has enough information to write an article on it, go for it. --SnorlaxMonster 10:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure before I went and did something stupid. Trak Nar (talk) 10:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Starter Pokémon template, Eevee Pokémon XD

I was on the Starter Pokémon page and I looked at the template used at the bottom

Starter Pokémon
Pikachu (player)
Eevee (rival)
Espeon and Umbreon
[[Category:Starter Pokémon|*]]
[[Category:Anime starter Pokémon|*]]

(and I hope posting that doesn't somehow bug out the site)

Anyways I looked at the XD portion and noticed it says Eevee can evolve into any of its Eeveelutions. XD is from Gen III and there were only 5 Eeveelutions around at the time. Shouldn't the template or whatever (I have almost 0 tech skills/knowledge) be changed to reflect this. At the moment it is kind of misleading. I would hate for someone to get a copy of XD and try to get one of its IV or VI Eeveelutions and get frustrated because they can't due to them not existing when the game was conceived. I'm not sure if you're the right person to go to for this, not even sure if your a staff member or have the power to change the template. Yamitora1 (talk) 15:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't even know why "→ Any Eeveelution" is on there to begin with. The other starter Pokémon don't list their evolutions. --SnorlaxMonster 15:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I was also wondering that too. Anyways I'm glad its fixed and thanks for the help. Also sorry if I did something wrong with copy-pasting the template code onto your page. I have no idea how this stuff works despite reading tons of stuff to try and educate myself. It just goes over my head. Yamitora1 (talk) 15:18, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I think it was done like that because you're forced to evolve it immediately after the first battle or something. Not saying it should be put back, just that that was apparently the reasoning behind the initial addition of that. Werdnae (talk) 21:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I See, than maybe it should either remain a plain Eevee, or the 5 possible evolution be placed in the box with it? Its kind of a awkward situation...so I am more leaning towards leaving it plain.Yamitora1 (talk) 23:37, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I watched an LP of it, and it seems that someone gives you the evolutionary item of your choice and encourages you to use it on Eevee, but you don't seem to be forced to evolve it. --SnorlaxMonster 06:23, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

new page request

missingno green variation Kingsisle (talk) 16:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

We don't currently have articles for glitch Pokémon in the Japanese games (and it would be Red and Green anyway, not just Green). Once we get decent quality articles for all the English glitch Pokémon, then we can consider Japanese glitch Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 16:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Bot, sock puppet?

I think WMULetha might be a bot or sock puppet. About 2 minutes after creating their account, they created their own talk page and are linking to their webblog. I Don't Know, I might just be paranoid but it seems strange they would know how to create their own talk page in less than 2 minutes, and their chosen user name seems a little...bottish. I thought it would be best to let you know about this just in case. cheers Yamitora1 (talk) 18:22, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Yep, that's a bot. --SnorlaxMonster 18:24, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Ok, glad that I wasn't being paranoid or baring false witness. {{subst:welcome}} is used to create a user's talk page...maybe we need something we can post on the talk page of suspected bots to bring them to the staff's attention, and for us normal users to help weed these bots out and keep the site and members safe. looking on the recent changes page, I see at least 7 names that look bot-like. Yamitora1 (talk) 18:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
I typically only bother with bots that are actually doing stuff. When they do, it's obvious from the Recent Changes, so we don't really need users to help out; that would just add an extra unnecessary step. --SnorlaxMonster 07:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


how do normal users raise their rank. it is not on the F.A.Q.Kingsisle (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean become a staff member? Because that is in the FAQ here. If not, then you're going to have to clarify what you mean by "rank". --SnorlaxMonster 19:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Sort of I ment what does the numbers in our contib page mean, also the link page is vaigue i understood some of it but i didn't understand what it ment by chosen. what makes it toware the staff know that someone is eligable to become a staff member? Kingsisle (talk) 19:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC) nothing lasts forever not even life.

There are no strict criteria, it's basically users who we see as responsible and good editors. Staff are typically hired in mass around main series game releases though. --SnorlaxMonster 19:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Question about dub edits

Would dub edits be pertinent to character articles, if the edit is in reference to that character's dialogue? Or, are dub edits only pertinent in the media articles? I ask this because in the original Japanese dub of Mewtwo Strikes Back, Raymond, after his defeat, says in very plain English "OH MY GOD!" That was not the only instance of "Engrish" in the movie, as when Ash is told that the storm is too violent for him to cross the waters with his Pokémon, he responds with a forlorn "damn." Also, upon entering Mewtwo's laboratory and snooping around, when Jessie sits on the computer console, she utters a particular four-letter word. Would any of those changes in dialogue be worth mentioning? Or, are instances of "Engrish" in the original dubs usually ignored in articles? Trak Nar (talk) 06:43, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't see any problem with mentioning dub edits on character pages. I thought there was precendent for this, but the best I could find was Melissa. I know Mewtwo was quite different in the Japanese version to the English version. --SnorlaxMonster 13:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

The Uncut Story Of Mewtwo's Origin‎

Lol, I already had this kind of problems in the past, and since then I have been more cautious to avoid problems, but I didn't realize that a brief mentioning of y. would be a big deal (not even Wikipedia ha such strict policies), but if my message was wrong, than your removal of it was a good thing. Anyway, back to the main topic: I have the Mewtwo Returns DVD and the voice of adult Mewtwo in "The Uncut Story Of Mewtwo's Origin‎" seems to me Addie Blaustein's voice (she also voiced young Mewtwo), but it could also be Phillip Bartlett's voice (I am Italian and I haven't watched the whole first movie in English, just few scenes). What do you think? Do you recognize the voice? --Abcd (talk) 11:28, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, we have to be strict on copyright violations, and certainly moreso than Wikipedia; Wikipedia has way easier access to many skilled lawyers than Bulbagarden does. We need to be extra careful, as we probably do things anyway that already violate Pokémon's copyright, and we just need to stay "in their good books".
I'm not very skilled in VA recognition. I think the credits would be a better choice, although I'm not sure if the DVD does have credits after the short or not, or if there are credits somewhere else. We typically avoid guessing VAs by ear anyway, as we have communication with the VAs themselves and they get annoyed when voices get misattributed due to someone guessing by ear (although they are the DuArt VAs, so they are less likely to know who voiced characters in a 4Kids dub). --SnorlaxMonster 11:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

The DVD doesn't have credits after that short, the only credits present are after "Mewtwo Returns" (and they are just generic "Voice Characterizations by" and "Additional Voices by", without saying who voices who). What you said about guessing VAs by ear may be right in principle, but there must be exceptions: for example I wrote that the adult voice of Mewtwo is Masachika Ichimura at the end of the short, and I only knew that by ear; I am sure that someone that knows American VAs better than me can judge if the voice is Blaustein's or Bartlett's (in the scene where Mewtwo gets older his voice also get older, but it seems to me that it just deepens without changing much, that's why I think that it may be Blaustein). If other people follow our discussion, the problem could be easily solved. --Abcd (talk) 12:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

  • For what it's worth, it sounds like Bartlett's voice, and the dub was made around the time that Bartlett was voicing Mewtwo. Trak Nar (talk) 03:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Voice actor sourcing

I edited the Michele Knotz and Nurse Joy articles to include that Michele Knotz reprized her role as the flash back Kanto nurse, but they were undone and I was asked to source it. How am I suppose to do that? Yamitora1 (talk) 20:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

The point is you can't just say that a character was voiced by a specific person without stating how you know that to be the case. Was it in the credits? Did the VA tweet about it? Is it on some cast sheet you have access to? You cannot just assume voice actors, as we are in contact with several of them, and people assuming voice actors results in misatrributions which bothers them. --SnorlaxMonster 04:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Username Violation

I saw a user under the alias of DepecheMode, and I am pretty sure that he/she is an impostor of the Depeche Mode. Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 03:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't think they are trying to impersonate the band, just pay a tribute to them. I don't have an issue with it. --SnorlaxMonster 04:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
I see a lot of user accounts being created with random characters. Sounds suspicious... Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 15:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

X and Y animations.

Still frame of what trailer confirms to be Struggle Bug. I remember we added pre-release of B2W2's Ice Burn and Freeze Shock (at least according to upload description), so why not this? (there also appears to be Horn Leech and Flame Charge on site) Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Protect Fairy Egg group article

I think it might be a good idea to protect the Fairy Egg Group article in the wake of the newly introduced Fairy-type. Just as a precaution. I would hate for any vandilism or other un-encyclopedic info from being added. Yamitora1 (talk) 14:52, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

A new section for every Pokémon page: type origin.

At first, um, hello SnorlaxMonster, and I don't know if I'm with the right person to ask this, but if I ain't, then please tell me who could help me. So to start things of: Every Pokémon has a 'Origin' and 'Name Origin' section. These sections mostly include speculation, and are some of the few places on Bulbapedia where that is allowed. But there is one more thing that I, and hopefully others, have really liked to see on Bulbapedia: 'Type Origin'! This would be a section which should include speculation in the same way as the 'Origin' and 'Name Origin' section, but this one would explain why a Pokémon has a specific type(-combination) and/or how a Pokémon is related to a specific type(-combination). So would would Tornadus's Type Origin explain that he is probably a pure Flying-type, because he is able to fly and has to go with Thundurus and Thornadus. But also that he is about windstorms, and the best type to represent 'windstorms' is the 'flying-type'. So Tornadus is actually the 'Windstorm-type' and the 'Being-able-to-fly-type', both of which are represented by the 'flying-type'. So he is actually the flying-type and the flying-type, so because Pokémon can't have the same type twice, he is a pure flying-type. Also Noivern, the 'Sonic Pokémon', is said to produce soundwaves with its ears. And soundwaves are actually vibrations in the air, so we again get the flying-type. And then Noivern is also a Dragon-like creature, so it also needs to be the Dragon-type. But Noivern is mostly about sound, so the flying type comes first. And that is why Noivern has Flying as its primary type. Then Gardevoir has the newly-introduced Fairy-type, because it is based on a Guardian angel. And angels would be represented by the fairy type. Also, some Pokémon own the Water-type, just because they are based on aquatic animals. Not because they actually have anything to do with 'water', that also should be noted. And it should also be noted if a Pokémon is the Fire-type because it is related to Fire itself, Magma, Lava, Heat, Stars, and so on. A reason to be of the Ground-type doesn't really need a Pokémon to be about earth, but also about sand, mud and clay! Jynx is an Ice-type, but not because she is made out of ice! However Regice is also and Ice-type but Regice IS made out of ice. So they got different reasons to be Ice-types! So how about it? Is it a nice idea to add the 'Type Origin' section to the Pokémon pages? By the way, thanks for reading the whole thing if you did... Nickvang (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

??? type

If the type ??? is retired, would it make it a glitch type cause it is sort of a "glitch"? (because it does not exist?) SebeD11 (talk) 22:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC) SebeD11

Edit War with User:Duke R

Can you please settle this at User talk:Duke R#Edit_War per this edit.--Landfish7 17:13, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Draft of a possible mainspace article

Hi. I noticed we have astonishingly little information about the Habitat List and it's spread out over a gazillion pages, so I wanted to make an article for it to centralize the information. I put together as much information as I could find in other Bulbapedia pages and my own experience with the game, and drafted what the article might look like in my userspace, but I don't know what the protocol is for getting it approved to the mainspace. I was hoping you could help me? Thanks! Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Never mind; it looks like Maverick Nate went ahead and moved it. Thanks, Maverick Nate! Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Seizure Net Trivia

In the Trivia section of Pikachu's Goodbye, it says

    • The net Team Rocket uses is called the "Seizure Net". This episode is the episode that aired right after the seizure episode in Japan.

Is that true, or did someone insert false trivia because it seems like it.Yamitora1 (talk) 16:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


Dusclops appears normally in Ruby, so it has Spell Tag on its page. It also appears in Emerald... in Battle Pike. But there is no note for it, only for Pyramid, and since the template is protected... Marked +-+-+ (talk) PS. It appears in both Pyramid and Pike. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found out the note says "Battle Frontier" without specifing what facility. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

redirect please

can you redirect "pokemon island river" to Pokémon Island River? I know its not a very traffic heavy article but it will make travel to it easier for those who don't know how to type out a é Yamitora1 (talk) 18:26, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Habitat List.

Le Japanese name here (I think, that's Habitat List opened in Japanese version). ...I should really learn Japanese. Also the article implies Poké Ball appears after you see/catch mons from that entire area, whereas area has separate Poké Ball for each of the 3 methods. I'd add that myself, but Internet decides to throw 503s at me instead of saving even though it works fine iin other cases. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:55, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I only just noticed this comment; thanks for the info! I updated the Poké Ball phrasing, added the Japanese translation (the hiragana translate as "Habitat" in Google Translate, and the last three characters are literally list in katakana, so I think it being a direct translation is a safe assumption even though Google Translate is normally terrible), and uploaded that image to the Archives and added it to the page. I hope doing so is okay copyright-wise; since it's a game screenshot, I believe whomever owns the site it came from doesn't have copyright on it, and we can use it under our fair-use-because-it's-a-game-screenshot clause, right? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:20, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Appendix page for Pokérus?

Hey SnorlaxMonster, just wanted to ask your opinion on something. Do you think it would help if an appendix or something could be created that answers all of the questions that end up plaguing the Pokérus talk page? I think it might help reduce comments on the talk page, especially if a notice was attached to both the talk page and editing screen. --Super goku (talk) 08:21, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


Could you delete the redirect User:Relicant/Grimsley's Bisharp? --Reliジーランス? 17:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Marked +-+-+/List of tutorable moves

I made this nice list (though name probably needs a change since it's not only Move Tutor moves). Besides sorting option, is there anything to add there before (probably) moving to mainspace? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 13:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Horde Battle

Why is there no article on Horde battles? There is not even a stub article to be found. Yamitora1 (talk) 07:52, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Team Go-Getters Updated Table Code

Can you take a look at this to see if it is alright to put it on Team_Go-Getters? Thanks. — Reshi643 17:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Seems fine to me. I really think that would be better off as a team template though, rather than having all that raw code on the page. It's something I plan to do eventually... --SnorlaxMonster 17:09, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

4"4 Hy and other glitch stuff

Someone has just moved the page to 4!4 Hy. I can understand why, because of its in-battle name, but I think it's dubious, so I would never make that move myself, and I'm more in favor of the old name. What do you think? Should this be kept? Update: Now someone has moved it to 4 "4Hy! (notice the space...argh!) Update 4: Now someone moved it to 4!4=Hy, just because of that glitch block! HELP ME!!!

Update 2: Two other things:


Update 3: ...two other things:

  • I think I noticed a mistake that prevents us from using the move templates that we use in pages like this one: the template from the middle shows the minisprite for the pokémon with the equivalent pokédex number. This may be good with hybrids, but the problem is that when the glitch pokémon in question has a # higher than 151 the template will display pokémon from the next gen - and yes, I confirmed that it has nothing to do with the JGGlitch. And even in the other cases where the number is different from 000, the glitch pokémon might not always be a hybrid.
    • Even more important than that, why are most of them marked as "000"? Is the article really that incomplete?

I really look forward to hearing from you soon, so that issues will not continue accumulating. Thanks. TheOriginalOne 15:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Item Help

I was hoping that you know how to place 0 for the money total, as the Pokémon Conquest item Junk can technically be sold for 0 gold but putting in 0 instead display "Cannot be sold".TrainerX493 (talk) 19:14, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


Fixed time, added evening, but I have no idea how that template works, since the "morning/day/night" repeats after 3 switches instead of 4 (oddly color one has the 4 switches and is quite easy to update)... and it seems to imply that in-game summer has morning from 3:00 to 9:59 when it's actually 4:00-8:59 (and even before I fixed it, it was 4:00-9:59, so where that 3:00 got from...). Marked +-+-+ (talk) 09:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, the first problem is that Template:Evening color doesn't exist, which it would need to in order to put into the template. Instead, I'll just fix the boundaries that were wrong. --SnorlaxMonster 12:22, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Looks like the actual template is fine, I just did a terrible job of transcribing it... --SnorlaxMonster 12:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Side series

Thank you for doing most of the legwork in changing all the infoboxes/categories/etc for the side series games last month. We still need an actual page for them and a corresponding template, so I took the liberty of Frankenstein-ing them together since they've been left undone. (User:Pumpkinking0192/Side series and User:Pumpkinking0192/Template:Side series) I based them on the Spin-off Pokémon games article and template, so they're not pretty-looking by a long shot, but they exist and are functional, which is a lot better than before. Are these ready for the mainspace, and if not, what can I do to fix that? (Unless there are already plans in place for something different to be done with side series-related stuff, in which case never mind about all this.) Thanks! Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:36, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

oops, sorry

I didn't see the bold italic thing. I tried to undo the edit but you got there before me. I probably shouldn't be up this late editing. Yamitora1 (talk) 08:13, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


Minor edit, but in the article http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M16, in the "List of Pokemon that appear" I noticed that it was missing a ) after

"Leavanny (Ash" Mr.Anonymous (talk) 13:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Draining Kiss

Just because the pictures are Aromatherapy doesn't mean the information is wrong, especially when it's labeled with the same move underneath each language. If it was wrong, wouldn't one of them have differed? (There also isn't one Healer so far who doesn't learn at least one HP move naturally.) Why can't we trust the website to be right? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 19:04, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think this one specific part can be trusted as it is clearly a mislabeling. The image depicts Aromatherapy, but the site says it "can learn Draining Kiss" in the caption underneath it. We already know there is a mistake in part of that piece of information, so I don't think we should trust it until the mistake has been fixed. (Also, Spritzee doesn't has lips, although Wooper can learn Ice Punch so that may be a redundant point.) --SnorlaxMonster 19:09, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Talk page

May I ask why you deleted my fan made poked with the red links? --Abdullahi456 (talk) 19:43, 12 July 2013 (UTC)User talk:Abdullahi456

Per the userspace policy (specifically this section), you cannot use your talk page for personal content. Your talk page is reserved for discussion (like this). Furthermore, you cannot create redlinks to fan Pokémon as they are added to Special:WantedPages, which is reserved for pages that are actually wanted. --SnorlaxMonster 19:47, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, what about just my user page? --Abdullahi456 (talk) 22:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)User talk: Abdullahi456

Sorry to interrupt, but I can answer to that one. I saw your first talk page (you are intelligent: you hid the negative comments!) and so I know your problem. Due to that scheme of yours that involved doing random mainspace edits just in order to be autoconfirmed, they told you that you were "put in abuse". Being put in abuse means you can no longer edit any of your userspace (that means everything that has the User: prefix), until you prove you can make more mainspace edits than the userspace ones. That's what the "constructive edits" thing means. TheOriginalOne 22:36, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

First of all, that wasn't a "scheme" of mine. Yes my account was autoconfirmed and I did make a constuctive edit on Cacnea, but somebody deleted it for no reason. And what mainspace edits did I even do? If you're talking about the one that administrator told me about, I never did any of that. My IP address got hacked so it made it look like I was the one who made those edits when in fact I never did. They put me in the abuse group just because something happen to my IP address. I don't even edit pages on bulbapedia, I just read them. Don't try to tell me a schemer when you don't know your facts. - unsigned comment from Abdullahi456 (talkcontribs)

Sorry, but I have no way of knowing exactly what was made by your account, as the changes were hidden by the admin. And please, can't you admit you did it? In case you didn't notice, the IP adress really identifies you, and unless the hacker used the same computer as yours, there's no hacker at all. There's no problem in admitting you commited a mistake, as nobody is perfect. Specially when you're a new user: this happens all the time. I have a bunch of them actually. And I didn't defend myself from them: I learned from them. TheOriginalOne 19:02, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

If it was me, I'd admit it. But let me tell you something, you see the history of my account? Check it and see the previous year in when I used bulbapedia. I haven't used it since 2010 and I only came back on it because I got an email from the one I used to confirm my account saying that I made some non constructive changes on bulbapedia. When I went on, I discovered my account wasn't logged on. Either somebody hacked my Ip address or somebody else went on my computer. I'm pretty sure it's the latter. I didn't do anything. Just because an ip address identifies you doesn't mean you can automaically point the blame at the real user. I did mistakes before on bulbapedia but I stopped. It's plain and simple. - unsigned comment from Abdullahi456 (talkcontribs)

Just a little reminder...

It seems I started a conversation with you precisely at the worst time, because you started replying to the ones that came after, without noticing it, until it got completely isolated. As I classify it as an extremely important matter, may I please ask you to look ↑ 8 times? Thanks. TheOriginalOne 22:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

^ What he said. --×Rsrdaman× 03:22, 13 July 2013 (UTC)


I did an updated Template:Types, if you want to take a look at it. — Reshi643 18:33, 13 July 2013 (UTC)


The time template is broken - for me it shows "11:05 PM UTC". Also, there might be way to add evening into HGSS at least - there are four eyecatches in HGSS, for morning, for day, for evening and for night. Good place to test would be Ilex Forest as all 4 are clearly distinguishable. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 09:13, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Noticed the derp - you mistyped and ended style="float:right with semicolon instead of double quotation mark. Fixed. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 09:20, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Interesting... for some reason, the newest version shows wrong time, and now yours shows it correctly. What the- Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Style codes need a semicolon at the end of each command and quotations around the entire set. I.e. the semicolon isn't wrong. Just incomplete. Werdnae (talk) 03:30, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
The reason why the page shows an incorrect time is because articles get cached to ease up stress on the server, there were no problems with the code. If you want to see the current time, you need to purge the article's cache by clicking the UTC clock. Old revisions aren't treated in the same way as the current revision, so they aren't subject to the caching and the time will always be accurate. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 03:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

A question.

If i find a spambot (like this guy) who should i report it to? I'm a newb so idk. - unsigned comment from MaleCombee (talkcontribs)

Genders of legendary Pokémon

Since the anime legendary Pokémon are no longer genderless, should I change the genders back to unknown? The Japanese version has yet to confirm one as male/female while the dub did the confirming. PattyMan 16:24, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Messed up big time!

I was trying to edit section 5 of black and white walkthrough and I really messed up. Now the bottom half of the page is missing. I really need help,SM.Can u pls undo what i did? I am really really sorry for the trouble I caused! I really am!! I didnt know who else to contact.Auraguardian197 19:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. In the future, all you need to do is go to the page's "history" tab, click the "diff" link next to the edit you want to revert, and then click "undo" near the top-right. Any user can do it, not just staff members. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank u,Pumpkinking.Auraguardian197 19:13, 16 July 2013 (UTC)