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Please leave your message by creating a new section below. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 04:44, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Lycanroc

How will you be able to display Tough Claws on the Lycanroc page without it looking weird? MaahirMomtaz12 (talk) 18:37, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

The staff will have to alter the infobox template to accomodate it. I don't know of a way the template can correctly display the necessary number of cells in its current state. According to Chosen, the staff are already aware this is necessary. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:59, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

New species introduced in the middle of a generation

Regarding Special:Diff/2688964, I wasn't talking about new forms (?), I was referring to Pokémon like Diancie and Genesect being "hidden" and officially revealed and released partway through their respective generations, or even something like Bonsly showing up in XD. Granted I guess the new UBs are different in this case because they didn't exist in Sun/Moon's game code at all? Dunno if that would be worth noting. Anyways I'm mostly concerned with what "introduced" means here, I'm not sure if the statement as it's currently worded excludes the examples I provided above.--Cold (talk) 04:43, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Bonsly can be easily excluded by specifying "core series", but yes, I see now the bone you're picking with the phrasing on the others. It's still an incredibly unprecedented occurrence, though, so I definitely think the trivium should not be removed in the interim while we figure out a phrasing. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 04:48, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

How does my rewrite sound to you? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 04:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, that's much better.--Cold (talk) 05:06, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Me

Dumb as usual, lol. (Feel free to delete this, takes up space) TheUltimateGamer (talk) 21:19, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Staff authority

Please don't pull rank on my behalf. If you want to make an edit, justify it on its merits, not the authority of someone who made a similar edit. Don't interpret one staff member simply making an edit as overruling another staff member. --SnorlaxMonster 16:38, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

I simply believe it's important for pages with equivalent topics to have equivalent text. I had to pick one or the other to change so they would match, and my edit summary was my justification for which one I picked. I wasn't trying to "pull rank", I was trying to explain why I thought that was more valid than changing Hoopa the inverse way. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

I would prefer if you would argue why you prefer the change I made, rather than say that because I was the one who made it that it is the correct way to do it. --SnorlaxMonster 16:53, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Understood, but in that particular case I had no preference except consistency, so the only reason I had to pick one over the other was who edited what and when. If a similar situation comes up in the future I will try to find a more diplomatic way to phrase it. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:59, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Some things

I honestly don't know how to change my computer's resolution, but I deeply apologize for my edits at Dragonspiral Tower. I didn't think about the possibility that others' computers would be different and people would therefore be presented with different formats of the same page. I honestly feel so embarrassed.

Also, something needs to be done about the font size of the Pokémon lists. It was pretty hard to read the lengthy list of Pokémon that appeared in I Choose You!, which was why I overlooked with Xerneas entry that was already there. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:23, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Ultra Space

In the trailer, when Lunala reaches the Ultra Wormhole passage in the mini-game, the player arrives in the Ultra Space of Nihilego, and, in the Official Site these new areas are in the article home of the Ultra Beasts, the home of Ultra Beasts is Ultra Space, so, that areas are the Ultra Space. - unsigned comment from Pika fanatic (talk • contribs)

Can you link to exactly where on the official site it explicitly says this? You are making a lot of assumptions and I cannot find anything on the official site to support them. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:05, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Well those areas are in the same slideshow when the site is talking that we are going to explore the Ultra Wormhole. - unsigned comment from Pika fanatic (talk • contribs)

Do you mean the first slideshow on this page? Because if so, I see nothing to support your assumptions. All they are are landscapes; there's no explicit statement that they are associated with any particular Ultra Beast over any other. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 08:15, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Wants to know? Forget it, because when Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon launch, I'll probably be right, so fine, because like they say in my country, "Eu não tô nem aí" - unsigned comment from Pika fanatic (talk • contribs)

I agree that this is the probable explanation that will eventually be true, but Bulbapedia requires explicit statement of fact. We don't say things based solely on "probably". It doesn't hurt anything for us to wait until we know for sure. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:33, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Can we just include the Geography article for how Ultra Space is in Sun and Moon? - unsigned comment from Pika fanatic (talk • contribs)

Yes, since the geography of how it appears in Sun and Moon is not speculation. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Type: Null

How can a legendary one evolve from a non-legendary? Because Cosmog and Cosmoem are legendary. I'd understand if it was some event item or something, but it's not. What Type: Null need to be legendary too?

Pika fanatic (talk)Pika fanatic 20:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

I think Talk:Type: Null (Pokémon) is a better place for this question (and indeed, it's already being discussed), but basically, the only criterion we have to determine what is or isn't Legendary is whether Game Freak says it is. Patterns are useless because they have been broken repeatedly in the past (it used to be that Legendaries couldn't be part of an evolution line at all; it used to be that they couldn't breed; it used to be that they had to be genderless). It's an assumption to say that a Legendary's pre-evolution is automatically also Legendary. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't have anything to say anymore, just wait if Shiny Silvally event card say something about Type: Null status, an future TN event or Generation VIII. So never mind. Pika fanatic (talk)Pika fanatic 20:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

As I said above, Bulbapedia's policy is to wait for explicit confirmation. It's better for us to have potentially incomplete information than risk having wrong information. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:25, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Lusamine's Pokémon

Hi, regarding Special:Diff/2703463, I don't see why this can't be assumed. It seems pretty obvious that Clefable and Herdier evolved from Cleffa and Lillipup respectively, even if it wasn't explicitly mentioned. Assuming they are entirely different Pokémon seems more of an assumption than assuming they evolved. We also assume May's Venusaur evolved from Bulbasaur, instead of assuming that May caught a completely new Venusaur. Satsjoe (talk) 18:46, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't see it as assuming they're entirely different Pokémon; I see it as showing proper agnosticism on the matter. Readers can assume for themselves (or not) whether the photo Pokémon are the same as the present-day ones.

As for May's Venusaur, I haven't watched those seasons so I don't know anything about it. But if what you say is true, perhaps that's something to be revisited. The prevailing winds on this wiki have moved from assumption to cautiousness over the years (see also, for example, the new-ish policy on assuming moves), and I'm fully in favor of double-checking old assumptions to see whether we actually know what we thought we did. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:38, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Although I like grouping the Pokémon better than how it was displayed initially, I still stand by my opinion of them having evolved. Maybe it's an idea to bring this up to a staff member and ask for their opinion. Satsjoe (talk) 18:14, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Edits

Why do you follow me around and undo all my edits? You even undo the ones that have nothing wrong with them. Is there a legitimate reason for this? Lucario5623 (talk) 01:13, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

I merely patrol the Recent Changes to ensure things are properly in order. No offense, but I have no idea who you are and had no idea that any of your edits were among those I'd undone previously. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 01:29, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Most of my edits that you have undone had nothing wrong with them. There were a couple of my edits that were redundant, but other than that there wasn't anything inherently wrong with my edits. Lucario5623 (talk) 01:45, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

I'd pay more attention to your talk page, as Pumpkinking merely attempts his best to help ensure that the guidelines of the site are followed on pages and, based on the issue being discussed on your page, the discussion on this page seems moot (with no offense intended). I have not reviewed the rest of your edit history, but I feel safe in assuring you that Pumpkinking most likely does NOT have any kind of bone to pick with you. CycloneGU (talk) 01:50, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Lucario, likely there was something wrong with your edits that you overlooked. Most people don't realize their mistakes as they make them here. If your edits are repeatedly being undone, you are probably doing something wrong.

Remember to always assume good faith. --Celadonkey 01:52, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Mina's trial

One small note is that the other Trial Captains cannot be re-challenged in any order during the games. Instead it is done in a specific order by the order of when their trials were conducted with the exception of Lana and Mallow who appear in the same order. That is why I chose to do this with each of their pages, but only mentioned the previous person only to indicate when they could be fought. I will stay out of your way in this matter, but keep this in mind. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:34, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Alternatively they could be kept as a minor reference in Mina's page (order listing like this) to cut back on wording for all those pages. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:37, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Let's just forget the whole thing, I already went to the other pages and trimmed out the wording. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:03, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I think the most appropriate thing is to only mention the order on the main description of the trial itself (either Mina's page and/or the Seafolk Village page), not on every single Trial Captain's page. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:08, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

You can do that, I already cleaned that out of the other pages already, though you can still help with grammar improvements if you wish. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:10, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Rocket Reds

I agree with your last statement. I am responing here because I think this might become a forum, but do you think there is any truth to the Rocket Reds idea I mentioned? I personally doubt it but just want to see whether it is true or not. I did not add it since it is doubtful and there was no source. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 16:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC) And yes, Wikia wikis are indeed badly maintained. There are links to pirated material on many of the wikis. I wasn't sure if the aite condoned such practice or if the editors simply got away with it, but I see now that it is simply bad maintance. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 16:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Blue

Got summary. But, I also added a statement that as an Exeggcute it haf four moves in the last battle but at the Pokemon League has only three which is not possible since there is no move deleter in gen 1 unless he actually replaced his exeggcute with a diffrent one. Is this notable? RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 04:22, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh, and what would be primary medium in a specific case? Also, at Game move errors, I have made a proposel to move the article. Maybe you would like to comment. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 04:26, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

To your first point: I really don't consider it notable. There are ample explanations. You pointed out that he could have replaced it with a different one; another possibility is that the developers never intended for NPCs to have to follow the same rules as the player. Either way, it's easily explainable and not a big deal that needs to be worried about.

Second point: Primary medium would be wherever it has the largest or most important role. For most Pokemon, this is the anime or manga (since the games rarely give Pokemon any role at all beyond being in battle). Nebby is a very rare exception where the games are the primary medium for a Pokemon.

Third point: I don't especially feel strongly enough either way to comment. In my opinion, we have a backlog of plenty of pages the Editorial Board should move sooner than replacing one fan-designated name with a different fan-designated name. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:11, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Delibird easter egg at the Shady House

Hi, I'm new and tried adding the note about Delibird occasionally coming down the chimney in the Shady House. Here's where I heard about it, and thought it was a fun easter egg to include: https://youtu.be/2Io1a3yX2fc?t=1m18s. I wasn't sure how to include a link to this video though, or if I should include the link at all. What are your thoughts? LinkGoesHIYAAA (talk) 23:09, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Eruption

Actually, if you look at Typhlosion's learnset pages, it also has a dash instead of 150. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 18:49, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Same goes for Camprupt. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 18:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Fire (type), the variation Water Spout, and Water (type) all list 150 for these moves. If learnset pages don't match that, it's probably a good idea to ask a staff member which one is correct before making widespread changes. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Can you take a look at the learnset pages of the two mentioned pokemon? Do we need to change them to be in line? RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 18:54, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

I see, and Water Spout also has the same problem on at least Wailmer/Wailord/Kyogre and probably more. As I said, a staff member should be asked first so we know which pages to change and which ones to leave alone. I've asked SnorlaxMonster on his talk page. Please be patient while waiting for him to give us an answer. Thanks. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2018 (UTC)