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Meh. I decided that being a normal user should be good enough. I like having the option of continuing some of my projects, and helping out my friends. I just don't want the responsibilities of staff to strangle me again. Nice, cool, and relaxed. No one say a word



Let me be the first to say welcome back Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 21:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

A wild Maverick appeared!

Welcome back - though I'd put this here rather than forward the email you missed. Basically I was going to ask where you got all of the info regarding the new BW collection cards. From what I can gather all of the info is now on the Pokemon Card Game Network site, which requires you to be a member of the Daisuki club - and I cannot register. The concern I had is that I don't have a Japanese source as to get text and all that from, or did Umeko provide all of this for you? ~~nuva-kal 23:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I was forcing myself to actually learn Japanese. I mostly compared the Japanese names of in game attacks with the cards. Anything that I could not either find and copy the text character for character, or copy/paste from one of the move/ability pages, I either had left the cards unfinished, or asked ume for them. There were only about five or six I did not do. MaverickNate 17:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I've also hit a potential snag in the way some cards are named. I'm up to Castform on cards by Pokémon, which is where I've noticed it. The Pokémon with different forms have it detailed in smaller text, but this is actually part of the card name. The forms are referenced as the card's full name in several Poké-Powers and as to what they evolve from, as well as in official checklists, and the fact that you can play four of each of those with the form names. Not sure if you planned to rename these if/when you got up to them? - Though I would still like some input. For most instances this isn't a problem, but the Shellos and Gastrodon cards all have the form in their name, which will need a redirect with the way the cardlist header is set up. ~~nuva-kal 20:13, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, I had also come across this problem with Unown. The way I began to think of it, was that the different sections for these Pokémon were not so much names as they were the different forms. I organized all of the letters into each of the groups, even though the EX Unseen Forces cards were not labeled "Unown A" specifically. This way provided a lot more sense into the different sections, for instance how all the cards in the first "Unown" section were the ones from HS era featuring more than one at once. I feel like having the three forms of Castform from Legends Awakened into the specifically grouped sections would be best for it. As for Shellos and Gastrodon, we can discuss that more in depth when those two actually come up. MaverickNate 20:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
This raises another question though, is it best to have for example a section for Sunny Castform, and one for Castform Sunny Form? This is what I was originally alluding to - that I think the cards in question should have the full names in the card article titles as they are with Unown over the course of the DP expansions. Considering I'm going over these with a fine-tooth comb anyway, moving them wouldn't be much more hassle. ~~nuva-kal 20:50, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, if renaming them is an option, I don't see why not. Though having both "Castform Sunny Form" and "Sunny Castform" is a bit weird and redundant in my opinion. Do what you think is best. MaverickNate 21:01, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Ugh, I've kind of convinced myself out of it, as the names don't look that good in the infoboxes and it does look daft with the breakdowns in the table. I've edited the Castform one to a standard I like, and I've even put a colour switch in there which looks nice! ~~nuva-kal 21:41, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I tried to avoid color switches, just so that each type and color was featured at all times. The only other place I encountered this was Lugia where all I did was alternate Psychic color and Colorless color. I probably would have just alternated Water and Fire color as the secondary color for Castform. MaverickNate 18:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Hi! I was so sad when I saw that you would leave forever,as TTEchidna and you were the ones who welcomed me here and supported my website. I do have a question, though, because I don't know how to do it. I finally created a page of Voltolos (White Collection 19) but the link to the secret Voltolos (White Collction 54) is still red. Could it be possible to create a redirect of this page : (Secret Voltolos) to the original page :, just like it was done with Tornelos, Reshiram and Zekrom? That would help a lot, since I don't know how to do it. TokoyamiTheDark 22:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Forget that, it is already done :) TokoyamiTheDark 22:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Already done! I am very impressed with what you did. There was only one minor modification: じゅうでん is Charge's Japanese name, and I already took care of it. Fantastic job. MaverickNate 22:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


I wanted to create a page to compare the Demographics of various places in the Pokémon world. Did I do anything wrong? TheRevived 05:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. You didn't create anything. We can't have an empty page. It screws up the statistics. make it in your userspace. MaverickNate 05:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was waiting for somebody to fill it up... I am serious, this is not a gimmick...TheRevived 05:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

So, you wanted to create a page, but you wanted someone else to do it? I can't believe you. MaverickNate 05:35, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


It's been said before, and It'll be said again. If you are not going to put in the effort to make an article properly before you save it, creating the page, then don't do it in the mainspace. There's a reason mainspace pages are called "articles" not "names" - because they have something on them. Werdnae (talk) 01:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

OK!:-22:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


Now, as I am sure you are glad to hear, all of the cards by Pokémon pages are complete I want to fill you in on something I plan on tackling next. While going through cards for the cards by Pokémon pages, I noticed a lot of inconsistencies as to how cards with reprints are shown. With cards that have only one reprint, the tendancy is to place the image of the reprint lower down the page with the primary release in the infobox. However, I have found this to be distracting in some cases, particularly with cards that have more text with regards to different versions, or where it masks bullet points in trivia sections.
What I propose is that we use the gallery underneath the release info heading that shows all variations and have the reprints detailed in the infobox that cycle, as articles with many reprints already feature. I know you personally are not a fan of the gallery when it comes to these, but I'm trying to think in the context of a casual browser/user. If they see one version of the card as displayed in the infobox, they can scroll down and see all iterations, and refer to the descriptions above to see individual details - I just think it structures the article more nicely. I'm sort of in the process of doing this, as I want to add concise info for distribution in promo card articles, specifically how they were for both English and Japanese releases. ~~nuva-kal 21:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, do whatever you want. It's not my project anymore. MaverickNate 21:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I still value your input though, which is why passed it by you. ~~nuva-kal 11:16, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
I know. But I'm seeing it as the current leader finding and destroying upon the problems that the previous leader had. You know that if I liked something, I'm not completely going to give an unbiased answer towards what you should do. I think anything you want to do would be an improvement on what I did, like how everything I wanted to do was mostly an improvement of {u|ShiningPikablu252}}, and so on. MaverickNate 19:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


What do you mean capitalize the letters in the template? It was like that in the Bulbasaur (Baes Set 44)! I only know how to do regular moves not poke-powers and poke-bodies. Could you tell me how so I know what to do?Dbeckelheimer6 23:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

You are using a bad example. Base your edits off of Charizard (Arceus 1) MaverickNate 23:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: Update

Well, I was doing it in lowercase because I saw an article that had it so, so I based my edits on that, but as soon as you sent that message, I started using "Xxxxx". It feels better that way. I'll edit the old ones later, I'd like to edit some more before going back. Oh, and I talked to Jello today about said templates, this one has a problem, I tried to use {{TCGNote}}, with {{TCGAttack}}, but the four couldn't be tied in one table, how can we fix that? Since we only have Top, Middle and Bottom parameters. Masatoshi talk contribs 05:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Derp, just watched you edit it, nevermind. Masatoshi talk contribs 05:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Already saw it and fixed it. TCGNote also has the position option. Also, just to keep things consistent, powertype goes UNDER position. MaverickNate 05:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I know that has the position parameter. And alright, starting from now, doing powertype under position. Masatoshi talk contribs 05:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Fantastic. Thank you. Keep up the good work. MaverickNate 05:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Alright, the last time I checked in another article, I had compared everything before using it in said article. Guess I didn't this time, sorry. I'll leave the Carddex and/or grey tables alone, then. Masatoshi talk contribs 05:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, well, I saw that the table said basically the same, so I figured that that'd do. Masatoshi talk contribs 05:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Dark Pokémon card

How do I handle those? Should I just use the TCGAttack with the type they're originally from? Masatoshi talk contribs 10:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Same as normal, but Add "class=Dark |" under position. MaverickNate 18:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Swalot (tcg)

Ummm..... I know I've caused trouble in the past, but I'm trying to stop doing that. I suppose you might remember undoing a revision from me on Salot's TCG page. You say they're normally psychic-type stage 1s, but there are 3 grass swalots, and only 2 psychic swalots. So, technically, they are grass types most of the time. Like I said, not to cause any more trouble ;).

Hama-chan's Slowking (CoroCoro promo)

Do these kind of cards use the "Doodle" thing? Also, just letting you know, I'd like to get rid of the Cardattack templates in all of the Pokémon cards first, and then replace the pages that have {{graytable}} for the {{Carddex}} ones, I can focus better this way. Masatoshi talk contribs 05:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there's a doodle option. Also, we'll see about the carddex. We'll see. MaverickNate 08:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Then, the ones that have drawings like that should have the Doodle thing. Got it. Well, if I finish them earlier, I can peacefully work on updating the Graytables to Carddex, and thus won't make any mistakes such as the ones I did earlier. Masatoshi talk contribs 08:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Is this okay? Especially the order of the class parameter. Masatoshi talk contribs 09:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I've been telling others to put class under position. MaverickNate 16:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Maverick Nate/Designers

Are you planning on getting around to doing it? We know quite a few Generation V Pokémon have been designed by James Turner. --SnorlaxMonster 11:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I haven't focused any recent time on it. Add to it if you wish. MaverickNate 16:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


was confirmed by this. Doesn't that make filenames of other cards official?----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 10:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Filenames weren't used to confirm Elfuun. And no, filenames from the card database are not consistent, so there is no way for us to use them. We aren't going to change Raichu to Raichuu just because the card database named their images that way and even though "Raichu" is the trademarked, and it still applies to BW. Quit pressing the subject. It's getting quite annoying to have to repeat ourselves multiple times. MaverickNate 18:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

eBayers stealing and hotlinking scans

Hi, I have been alerted that eBay sellers have been stealing scans from here, but not any scans out there. They're stealing AND Hotlinking MY OWN scans, which my website states the following rules -

FAQ rules still apply! Online auctions (like eBay) or websites with *annoying* Right-Clicking Disabled are not allowed to use these AT ALL. LiveJournal and similar websites are welcome to use these.

Could it be possible to prevent images from the Archive to be hotlinked? Anyhow, here' the eBay auction URL with a hotlinked Shining Magikarp...stolen and the seller even put a damn watermark on it, breaking not 1, not 2, but 3 TERMS OF USE rules!!!

Images (Mine) : 180px-Shiningmagikarp2.jpg

(After it was stolen) :!B+DtKFg!Wk~$(KGrHqJ,!hoEzd9T!ZWuBM-jWTgMHg~~_12.JPG

The holo marks and smudges all match up, proving image theft. TokoyamiTheDark 16:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


I think that I may be sockpuppeting, It is very vauge but I seem to remember creating an accout and then decideing this was all to complicated. Now, I'm preety sure this one is a new account. Is there anyway of searching for an old account that may or may not exsist and if so, can it be deleted? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 20:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Just because you have another account doesn't mean you are sockpuppeting. Creating extra accounts to use maliciously is bad, but accidentally having an extra account is not, as long as you aren't using it. (I actually have three: long story.) I assume you aren't since you brought this up to me. You're fine. Just carry on with normal business, and if anyone ever harasses you about this, send them to me. MaverickNate 20:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
thanks Mav, I'm not even sure if there is one but is was bugging me Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 20:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


I am sorry about the Team Budew thing. I don't know if the others are moving. (Personally, I want to move ASAP but I'm not the leader. I want to follow policies. Team Budew, don't take this the wrong way, but if we cause trouble I might drop out for the reason of we should follow the rules.) I am really sorry. :( Pokabu82 02:15, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


Since I never plan on registering on the forums, I'm going to bring this up here.

What was with the massive arguing over the APNG vs. GIF debate in which you kept using the reasoning to "just use Firefox" over and over (amongst other reasons)? Telling people incessantly to change their browser is really not a good way to go forward when it comes to user-friendliness for a Wiki. I for one, definitely would not go back to that bloated, memory-hog of a browser when Chrome currently does it's job perfectly fine with better functionality (like TweetDeck as an extension). However, I am aware that APNG's are not currently supported, and may not be for quite a while too. Do you see me kicking up a storm about it? No, because I chose my browser, and I am dealing with it's functionality (or lack of it, in this case).

How about next time to debate comes up again, you use the other sides of the arguments such as the server load, templating issues and the rest; rather than banging on about people's choice of browser?

As someone who is supposedly a Bureaucrat, you're not setting a very good example IMO. TheChrisD RantsEdits 16:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)