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As N will be part of every future episode, (from the episode that airs this week until april;at least so), I think that he must gain an anime counterpart. We know that he will have a main certain role in this new arc of the anime, and as you know I created time ago an article about [[User:Riox-Ibui/N (anime)|his anime counerpart]] in my userpage. I think that his role is more important than [[Cynthia]] or other characters who have appeared many times but do not own an anime counterpart. So should he gain one? [[User:Riox-Ibui|Riox]][[User talk:Riox-Ibui|***]] 12:14, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
As N will be part of every future episode, (from the episode that airs this week until april;at least so), I think that he must gain an anime counterpart. We know that he will have a main certain role in this new arc of the anime, and as you know I created time ago an article about [[User:Riox-Ibui/N (anime)|his anime counerpart]] in my userpage. I think that his role is more important than [[Cynthia]] or any other character who has appeared many times but does not own an anime counterpart. So should he gain one? [[User:Riox-Ibui|Riox]][[User talk:Riox-Ibui|***]] 12:14, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Due to school, I am not here as frequently as usual. As such, it may take some time to respond to your questions. If at all possible, please ask another admin for help for non-anime issues. Thank you very much.

Attention: Before you post

Since this has happened repeatedly, here is a list of Pokémon belonging to rivals/recurring in the anime that I wish you would not ask me about making them in your userspace. These Pokémon did have articles before but the Editorial Board agreed upon them being merged into the Trainer's article. Here is the list:

  • Max's Ralts
  • Gary's Nidoking
  • Gary's Nidoqueen
  • Drew's Flygon
  • Drew's Masquerain
  • Drew's Absol
  • Drew's Butterfree
  • Harley's Banette
  • Harley's Ariados
  • Harley's Octillery
  • Harley's Wigglytuff
  • Paul's Azumarill
  • Paul's Stantler
  • Paul's Weavile
  • Paul's Gliscor
  • Paul's Ninjask
  • Paul's Drapion
  • Barry's Heracross
  • Zoey's Mismagius
  • Nando's Sunflora
  • Kenny's Alakazam
  • Kenny's Breloom
  • Ursula's Plusle and Minun
  • Casey's Elekid
  • Happy - Ritchie's Butterfree
  • Cruise - Ritchie's Pupitar
  • Rose - Ritchie's Taillow
  • Volkner's Raichu
  • Volkner's Luxray
  • Trip's Tranquill
  • Trip's Frillish
  • Trip's Lampent

There are more than this, but most of the others were Gym Leader/Elite Four/Frontier Brain Pokémon and I have yet to be asked about recreating them.

If you would be so kind, try to avoid asking about these Pokémon. The main reason being the obvious one: they were already here and deemed unnotable. The second is about history preservation for the articles that were redirected and not deleted before then. If the decisions were to ever be overturned, the redirects that exist now can be reverted back to the way the were and history will be preserved. Moving a userspace article over the redirect will erase all the history from before. I recommend saving your work on an external program for use at a later time or write what ever information you have into the Trainer article itself. Thank you for understanding. --ケンジガール

Sean Schemmel or Sean Rayes

Are you sure that prof. malveaux was voiced by sean schemmel? I ask because he sounds more like he was voiced by This sean He does sound pretty much exactly like Professor Rowan if not his slightly youner self. maybe you may want to double check the data, it's possible that Tom Wayland may have confused the seans. I've done that myself with a few of my friends with the same name, and i think that this is one of those cases. please watch the episode and a prof. rowan episode to hear for yourself, and if you do send to Tom Wayland, do mention that it sounds nearly exactly like prof. rowan. Put it this way, it's a case of either of the following:

  • 1. It's Sean Reyes not Sean Schemmel
  • 2. Sean Schemmel is that good of a voice actor that he can do prof. rowan's voice nearly exactly
  • 3. Sean Schemmel and Sean Reyes are the same person.

I'm not going to change anything yet, but i think a little bit of a double check should be made as well as a voice comparison just so you and others helping out will understand what i'm talking about. thanks. Christian Woods Azu! 19:47, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I doubt Tom Wayland would be confused. He's knows better than anyone in the company who voices who. He's the voice director. Just because they sound the same is not a good enough reason to question him. A lot of actors sound similar. I've made that mistake countless of times. --ケンジガール 19:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I hear you, but i have a good ear for this. sean schemmel was in that episode, and so did sean reyes. i usualy can tell if it's the same person, i just have a hard time believing that it's sean schemmel doing malveaux. please watch the episode so you know what i mean, then look at something with prof. rowan in it. i'm convinsed that it's sean reyes. maybe i'll contact the great butler and fiund someone who can get in touch with either of the seans. it's just too unlikely that it's schemmel, i'm sorry, but it's too unlikely, and this is coming from someone who is extremely awesome at recognizing voices (not trying to brag) Also, you didn't mention any of my three mentioned posabilities, which one you think explaines it the most. again: * It's sean reyes doing the voice, * Sean Schemmel is that good of a voice actor that he can do a voice nearly identical to prof. rowan * Sean Schemmel and Sean Reyes are the same person. sinse it's obvious that 3 isn't true, that leaves 1 and 2. Schemmel would have to be an extremely good voice actor (better than mel blanc) in order to fool me into believing it's reyes, and though he's an excelent voice actor, that is impossible. Christian Woods Azu! 20:39, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm sticking to what Tom Wayland says. Even if I think a character sounds like a certain voice actor and he tells me differently, I'm always going to listen to him. He knows better than anyone else. Me listening to it is not going to change my opinion. --ケンジガール 21:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

English Voice Actor for Kylan

Hey KG, could you possibly ask Tom who voiced Kylan in Evolution by Fire!? We still don't have his VA yet. I understand that you have been very busy lately, but it would be good if you could at least plan on doing so. Thanks! サトシ101 (talk) 20:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I have asked him before on it. He told me he could not remember who. It'll will have to be discovered through other means. --ケンジガール 04:32, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Anime episode question

Hi, KG, long time. I found this article and I am confused as hell!! it has the {{Futureepisode}} on it but then the clip show article says it aired 1997. Do you know anything about this episode? Was it on TV or no?? --ZestyCactus 22:04, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea. I remember having a conversation with the person who made it. But I thought they said it was banned after the Porygon thing. --ケンジガール 05:10, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Did a bit search and found this. According to this Japanese episode-listing, the special is a part of the 90-minute broadcast, which aired from 18:30 JST (half hour before the usual airing time). It aired right before EP028 in October '97. However, the Porygon episode aired in mid-December. So, I don't think there is any connection in between them, or the chance of 'fall special' being cancelled for any reason. But that's just an opinion, I do not have any other source to confirm it. Also, no idea why that future-episode template is there. AdynizWanna talk? 07:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
So your source says it aired before the original airing of EP028? The articles here keep saying it aired after, which seems silly, showing a clip show before the newest one makes more sense to me. Anyway, everything seems to indicate that it did air in Japan, so I switched it from "Futureepisode" to "Undubbed". Thanks guys. --ZestyCactus 19:02, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

BW090 Dub Names

Hi KG, so on December 1, BW090's dub comes out meaning alot of character moves will be required. I'm usually the one who does the CC checking and moving as the episode airs, but this time there's 9 characters to keep track of. It'd be okay if people didn't try to guess by ear and move the pages to something spelled incorrectly, but it usually happens. I was wondering if you'd think it be ok to move protect those pages so we can do it in a more organised fashion. Thoughts? Thanks --Pokemaster97 21:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm thinking that's a good idea. --ケンジガール 21:59, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I can do that now then. --Pokemaster97 22:35, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Permission for creation

Hello, Kenji-girl. I am in the process of creating an article for Burgundy's Dewott. It has come to my attention that users need your permission to officially create articles. So I am asking, once I am finished, may I please upload my page for Burgundy's Dewott? And by the way, my userpage is empty because my userspace rights have been revoked, so you will not be able to find anything out about me. Mikoro (wanna talk?) 03:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

It's already in the works off site if it is ever needed. --ケンジガール 02:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
It is? When I searched for it, nothing showed up. I saw things like Alder's Bouffalant (Adeku's Buffron) and Georgia's Beartic (Langley's Tunbear), but I never saw Burgundy's Dewott (Cabernet's Futachimaru).
I said in the works offsite. That means someone has put it together, but it's not posted on Bulbapedia. When it is needed, it will be uploaded. --ケンジガール 02:35, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh. Alright, thanks anyway. I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 19:08, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


I just thought I'd poke you about this, cause we also have Jeffery's name listed on this page. Not sure what to do so I thought I'd just tell you. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 08:03, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Is that the "Jeffery" from Sinnoh? Mikoro (wanna talk?) 02:16, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


I might know, where you find file of screenshots anime? (eg. Keno Eelektross) I always take them with filb.de, but they have a poorer quality of. Pawel10s (talk) 10:17, 24 November 2012 (UTC) PS. Sorry for my english

I really can't tell you here. --ケンジガール 10:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok Pawel10s (talk) 09:17, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Lisa ortiz

Hello, i recently sent Lisa ortiz an e-mail on facebook (source is in the e-mail i'm sending you now), and asked her if she voices bianca in Pokemon Heros, and i'm not going to touch that article about it untill i get a response from her, mmksy? for the link, see the e-mail i'm sending you. i'll put it here if i get error messages again. thanks. Christian Woods Azu! 02:50, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

ummh, scrap the last part about sending you the e-mail, every time i go to your userpage to send you an e-mail, i get a plethora of error messages. will you please fix your userpage, because in its current state, my computer will freeze up whenever i either try to send you an e-mail or find out who your favorite character is. Jo the Marten has the link sent to him by me, so you can ask him for it, i had to restart and lost the link in my clipboard. thanks. Christian Woods Azu! 02:56, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


Now I remember Larry and Lewis being two of the characters having them when you did this. One thing, are we taking a break with finding voice actors since the incomplete tag was removed as part of the revision? PattyMan 03:51, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

M16 page

Since it's being reported that the first official Genesect movie info is coming next week, I'd like to mention that I have a page for it under development on my userspace - User:The Great Butler/M16. I admit it needs some work, so I would like to ask for help cleaning it up ahead of when it may become needed next week. --The Great Butler (talk) 04:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

  • I've updated the page with the information that just came out, and I'd like permission to submit it for mainspacing consideration. --The Great Butler (talk) 07:05, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Kotetsu's Riolu

Hi there.Can I create the kotetsu's riolu article,cuz we have enough informations about it, it's a walking pokemon and he may evolve soon,and of course that he will soon get his article,but I wanted to create it now cuz I think can be necessary . ★Alex★ Water 20:08, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

It would be best to see if it actually does something important. Walking around and evolving does not mean it should get a page. --ケンジガール 23:21, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Escavalier article

Is this article okay, hence some errors and created by someone else? I only saw Escavalier battle unless I'm missing something. PattyMan 01:16, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Really don't think it did enough to get its own page. It only appeared two times. But that's just my opinion. In terms of appearance, if that's what your asking, yeah, it's alright. --ケンジガール 03:00, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I'd say it looks pretty good, the Personality and Characteristics section just needs to be rewritten. GamerGeek 00:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


I know you already gave their opinion, but I wonder if I recreate the page for Cynthia, she runs the risk of being deleted. Her role in Best Wishes was considerably large and she had several interactions with Iris, Trip and even participated in the battle against Giovanni.--Hikaru Wazana 05:06- 8 December 2012

There's no need to. She still didn't do enough to get a separate article. --ケンジガール 06:36, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Episodes focusing on Stephan

I count 6, 7 next week, that is the same as Bianca has. What do you think about this category? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:50, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. Seems like we should have it. --ケンジガール 22:18, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Help with a name

I'm making a proposal of a new article, my first shipping one, I don't watch episodes that frequently, but from what I heard, this pairing is very notable. However I can't find a name since all of them have such complicated name origins. What name would you give to a Shipping between Stephan and his SawkDageki?--Igor (talk) 01:51, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Not sure about it getting it's own article, but you are more than welcome to add it to this page. Make sure it goes under "Pokémon ships" and that you follow the format of the page. Otherwise, you have to talk to ArcToraphim about it. --ケンジガール 22:18, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

VA's for M15

Hi Kenji, could you possibly check with Tom for the voice actors/actresses for Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, and Kyurem in M15? A lot of users seem to be guessing. (If you've contacted him already, disregard this message.) サトシ101 (talk) 22:06, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I just hid them until they get officially confirmed. Ask him about who voiced Keldeo as well because of the Vic Mignogna rumor. PattyMan 23:59, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Virgil's Eeveelutions

I propose a group page for the seven of them, esspecially since Espeon and Umbereon are probaly ready for their own page soon anyway. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 17:44, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to wait on it. --ケンジガール 06:19, 15 December 2012 (UTC)


Hey.Sorry,where is the source of making the Girl a character,bacause I looked and I didn't find any,just to know for myself. ★Alex★ Water 19:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Pokémon Fan Magazine preview. AdynizWanna talk? 19:19, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
So there was a preview of the upcoming episodes of N? Please can you tell me a link to watch it ?★Alex★ Water 21:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Kotetsu's Riolu (again)

If in the next episode Riolu appears, can it be considered enough to gain its own page? Because I've already made one. If you don't think so I agree. It is the way it is because I didn't have much time to work on it because of the school and I simply forget when I log in the bulbapedia.

PS.: I'm new to those things about making pages, that's because the pages I've done so far I needed help because I didn't watch certain episodes which were important. Am I going a little/too much fast and should slow down?--Igor (talk) 03:13, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

M16's title

Apologies if this is already being discussed elsewhere, but what title are we officially going with for M16? --The Great Butler (talk) 07:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


Hey KG, I have a page on PK25 in my userspace. When ever you feel it's ready, I can move it into the mainspace. --Pokemaster97 17:28, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Team Rocket's new pokemon

Hi KG.I was wondering if I can create the articles for Jessie's Frillish and James's Amoonguss and let it hidden until the certain episode airs?Then we just add there the missing informtaion. ★Alex★ Water 19:41, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I have already created them. And you aren't even able to create userspace articles in the first place.--Den Zen 20:11, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Pokemo League Anime format

I was thinking about adding a few changes in the Pokemon League Conferences in the anime.We may put there the main battles that happened there and those that we saw.I already have the idea how to do it and if you want I can do that.What do you think?★Alex★ Water 11:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

What about this one...

An article about Pokémon Actors, the own Pokémon (and not the humans) as their job. Here are my points:

  • White and the BW Agency with Nite and Gigi as examples;
  • The Pokéstar Studios, their rental Pokémon and that sucessful movie animation when Pokémon exits its Pokéball;
  • Luke, and other Pokémon acting in the anime in several episodes.

I don't know if there are any TCG for this category. What do you think? For the first time I'm actually asking before making the article.--Igor (talk) 13:06, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

N anime

If we would need N's anime counterpart I have already create one. In case it will be needed tell me to mainspace it. Riox*** 21:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


Sorry for asking this question, but what is notability by your definition? KyleRGiggs 08:12, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

It can't be defined in one sentence. But what isn't notable is being the second of anything which is what was stated about Jessie's Frillish being the second Pokémon owned by a main character to have a "noticeable" gender difference. On the subject of gender differences, it doesn't matter how noticeable one is over another. Neither Frillish or Unfezant were the first Pokémon owned by main characters to have a gender difference.
Also the thing about Frillish being the first Ghost-type owned by a female character is completely pointless. Gender should not be a basis for something like that. It'd be different if say Ash was the only one who had Ghost-types before and she was the first to get one besides him. --ケンジガール 08:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Battle Records

The only reason I set one up for Ridley was because I just finished watching the two-part Meloetta episode, and since he was only in like two battles, it made it easier to set up, since all of the major characters have had too many battles for me to remember. --Firered16 (talk) 11:26, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Mediation request

User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest and I have found ourselves in a bit of an argument. I think we're both probably overreacting to what the other is saying, so I was hoping this could be resolved by an outside party before it completely explodes. (I ask you because your name got brought up because you had posted on my talk page before. If some other mod/admin is better suited for this, please direct me to them instead.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:55, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I've handled this. Werdnae (talk) 07:47, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


What do you think of this page? PattyMan 17:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

If those skipped BW episodes air...

Given that there is evidence indicating that the skipped BW023 and BW024 may air as retconned episodes soon (Be An Arrow! 2013 referencing them, N going to Castelia to fight Plasma, scans indicating an upcoming conflict between Team Rocket and Team Plasma) I think this is a discussion worth having now in order to prepare.

Should those episodes air with significant retconning, as currently appears likely, how will we handle it? The edits to retcon the episodes will likely be very, very extensive, far beyond simply cutting out any earthquakes or energy blasts. Would this, should it happen, be enough to consider the retconned versions new episodes? Would we continue to list "BW023 (unaired)" and "BW024 (unaired)" (or perhaps condensed into an umbrella page) while listing the new episodes as BW120-BW121 or whatever? Or would the information from the pages currently in existence be moved up to the new episode numbers and listed as trivia depending on what changes? --The Great Butler (talk) 04:15, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it is likely that they will re-use the scenes from it, but I do not think that they will just cut some scenes and air that two-parter. Not to mention, the episode plots are different:
  • Meteonite Genesect.
  • Rockets VS Plasma N VS Plasma.
Therefore, I think that the un-aired episodes should be left untouched. The new episode can have a separate article, i.e BW1??. AdynizWanna talk? 09:50, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response. I just want to raise a couple of additional points, though: we don't know yet if the retconned/recycled version of the episodes will actually change out the Meteonite for Genesect or if Genesect is a separate episode, one, and two, the scans explicitly said Team Rocket would fight Team Plasma, so I think the N VS. Plasma plot is going to be separate from what happens with them. My personal leaning, if I may, is actually similar to yours, though: I would support making new pages for the new episodes, but because of the low amount of information spread between the "BW023 (unaired)" and "BW024 (unaired)" pages, I would also support combining those into a collective page (perhaps "Team Rocket VS. Team Plasma (unaired)") which could be filled with history and background regarding the original pair of episodes and their legacy. --The Great Butler (talk) 10:17, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Fair point. Well, I can't seem to make myself agree with the merge idea, mainly because they were two separate episodes and have different episode staff etc. But I would be interested to know what others think about it and you are more than welcome, if you have any more suggestions regarding it. AdynizWanna talk? 10:50, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, one of my main motivations is that unlike other skipped episodes, those two were a single, two-part storyline, and no other skipped episode ever received the kind of promotion they did before their intended airings; in fact, you couldn't be blamed for thinking the promotions were for a one-hour special the way they were delivered. I'd also mention that a lot of information we do have is front-loaded into the page for the unaired BW023, while the unaired BW024's page is barren by comparison. Collecting them would allow us to do something similar to what Dogasu did on his combination page for them. Finally, episode staff is a fair point, but allow me to suggest that some fooling with the tt template should make it easy enough to get around, provided I'm understanding the functions of the Episode Info template correctly and doing that wouldn't bork it. --The Great Butler (talk) 09:17, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I think planning for this should be dealt with until after the fact if anything is to happen. Most likely there will be a discussion placed in the admin forum about it and all the planning will happen there. A retcon to me seems very unlikely. They will probably just borrow some animation aspects like they did with the TR vs Kami Trio episodes. The plot will be completely different most likely. I have to agree with Adyniz for now. 23 and 24 (unaired) will stay as they are and we'll give new articles to the new episodes. I am iffy about combining the two though. --ケンジガール 09:27, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

How to goes be done with the biography of Giovanni, Juniper and related characters? I mean, for purposes of chronology, we now know that the events such episodes never happened. And the profile of Giovanni, has several references to conflict with Team Plasma.--Hikaru Wazana 10:47, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

They should say that they were to have a conflict with Team Plasma and then explain what happened to the episodes briefly. --ケンジガール 04:38, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

New Project

I have an idea for a new project that would be a sub project of Project Anime and Project Games. My idea was to have a project for coordinating and such, because after B2W2, there are so many things that would fall under this kind of category: Contests, Super Contests, Pokémon Musical, and Pokéstar Studios, just to name a few. I though it would be a lot easier if we just combined all these kinds of articles under one heading. What's the verdict?

Note: I am also asking Umeko on this too because I'm still not sure whether this would be a sub project of Project Anime or Project Games. Empress Empoleon 01:03, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what it has to do with the anime really. That seems like something to discuss in the game project. --ケンジガール 04:38, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Notability again

Hi KG, what is your thought on this one? It's been in dispute since like 2007 and i'm trying to unclog the Candidates for deletion so i was wondering if you could help me make a final decision since anime Pokémon notability is basically up to you :P --ZestyCactus 01:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Piggybacking off of Zesty, what about these two pages? --Pokemaster97 02:10, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
There's a rule set in the anime notability guidelines that if a Pokémon outshines its Trainer in an episode then they can get an article. Orville gained more attention than Wilbur in said episode. By accordance to the rules, its notable enough.
And I don't think Umbreon is notable at all. If any of Virgil's Pokémon is getting an article, it should be Eevee. But even she isn't notable enough IMO. --ケンジガール 04:40, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Neither is Cameron's Samurott*. --ケンジガール 04:43, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

N anime

As N will be part of every future episode, (from the episode that airs this week until april;at least so), I think that he must gain an anime counterpart. We know that he will have a main certain role in this new arc of the anime, and as you know I created time ago an article about his anime counerpart in my userpage. I think that his role is more important than Cynthia or any other character who has appeared many times but does not own an anime counterpart. So should he gain one? Riox*** 12:14, 18 February 2013 (UTC)