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Here's a small little list of guidelines I expect to be followed on my talk page:
  • Please use English. It's not that I'm against other languages, it's am I suppose to respond when I don't know what you said?
  • Please do not respond for me. I don't mind people tacking on their own questions to a discussion that's already been made, even before I have the chance to answer the initial post. But when someone personally has come here to ask me a question, don't answer for me. And if someone has answered for me, please don't take their word for my own. I can guarantee you that almost no one on this site knows me as well as I do. If you want my opinion, you wait for my response.

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Notability of putting the use of a move by only one trainer in the anime in the Trivia section

I just wanted the opinion of a pro; I have noticed that in the anime, only one trainer was shown to command the move Minimize and Giga Drain. Nurse Joy was the only one to ever command Minimize and Paul was the only one to ever command Giga Drain. Do you think this is notable to put in the trivia sections of both pages? Ataro says that it is not, but he won't give me a good enough reason why. I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 14:54, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Not really. There's a first time for everything, and there's plenty of moves that have never been used in the anime. So I don't think it's notable for moves used recently. If the move was used in the first season, and was never used since.......maybe. Signature moves wouldn't count though, I don't think. Like saying Lugia's the only Pokémon to use Aeroblast in the anime. Well yeah, duh, it's the only Pokémon who knows it. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. And it is obvious that Lugia is the only one capable of using Aeroblast, even though I didn't mean literal signature moves. I just meant moves that have only been commanded by one trainer in the anime. But now I understand. And by the way, on the Archives, when you upload an improved file of a picture, how do you get that upload to be the default set picture? I uploaded a new file for Roxie's Garbodor, but when I go to her page, it shows the old one. Do you know how to fix that? I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 15:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
It will fix itself. The server needs to synchronize Bulbapedia and the Archives. When that happens, the image on Bulbapedia will update. This happens with every image. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 15:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay. So I just have to wait? I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 17:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Pretty much. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 19:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Okey-dokey. Thanks! Do you know how long it normally takes? I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 03:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Sometimes a few hours, sometimes a day. Sometimes even a few days. Could always clear your cache to check (click the time code at the top of the page next to your username) Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 03:22, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Got it. I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 05:31, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't get it

Why is it that this LegandofThor2 user keeps on creating multiple accounts and coming back here despite being told multiple times not to? PattyMan 20:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Your guess is as good as mine. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 22:17, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Looks like you have the same question too. PattyMan 22:33, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Trapinch Edit

Just wondering: Why did you think my Trapinch trivia wasn't notable (the one about learning Dig)? Aggron989 (talk) 01:51, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Almost every Pokémon can learn advanced moves after the point that it evolves. We don't need to point it out. The part that Trapinch is the only third Generation Pokémon that learns Dig belongs on the Dig page. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:01, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Template Request

Hey Jo, I was wondering if you could help me with something. On the new Dungeon location pages (like this one for example), has the items listed without a template or anything to go along with it. IMO, it's rather plain looking the way it is now. Do you think you could somehow find or develop a template that could be used to list MD game items? Thanks for da help. --Pokemaster97 01:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:DungeonItem/h and Template:DungeonItem. Abcboy put them together, I just finished tweaking them and moving them into the template space. Let me know if any adjustments are needed. Werdnae (talk) 19:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Oh, that looks good. If I find anything wrong, I'll be sure to let you know. --Pokemaster97 03:53, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok,I got it

Thanks for telling me to do that.So I will just go to those pages and delete the trivia on sprites.27thcolt (talk) 09:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Editing again

As to many important events are happening in these last episodes I would like to earn back my privilege of editing again.I won't be abusing again.I will respect the rules.Please I need to create new articles that may be taken in use.I will not abuse again. ★Alex★ Water 23:01, 23 December 2012 (UTC)


Listen Jo. Up until now, I have been thinking about every mainspace edit I have made since you revoked my userspace rights. And I've come to a conclusion that I have made a lot of edits since then. And, I want to ask if you think I'm ready to have my userspace rights reinstated. Before you answer, I want you to think about how much I have used and appreciated your benevolence, but I absolutely want you to forget about how I assumed nonchalance in you. I now trust you as someone who can help guide me, and you have earned your place as my favorite administrator. Just please take some time to think about all of this. When you finish thinking, please tell me. Do you think I am ready to have my userspace rights reinstated? (I can take no for an answer.) Thanks so much. the great MIKORO (talk to me) 03:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

After talking it over with some of the staff, we've decided to grant you your userspace privileges. However, if you abuse it again, it will be revoked again without warning. So make sure to follow the rules. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 06:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a million. Scout's honor, I will never abuse my userspace rights again. And by the way, do you know where people normally get HD pictures that they upload? Most of the pictures I upload are deemed unsatisfactory. the great MIKORO (talk to me) 15:20, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
All images must be in PNG format, with the exception of animated pre-Gen IV Pokémon sprites (GIFs) and voice actor photos (JPGs). GamerGeek 00:56, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Please do not post responses to messages on my talk page. It's stated at the top of the page. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:25, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I just thought you might have overlooked his/her last message; I'll look for other things to do. GamerGeek 07:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
1: I'm a boy.
2: That's not what I asked. I asked where people get HD pictures from because some pictures I upload are deemed unsatisfactory. the great MIKORO (talk to me) 13:16, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
I'll continue this conversation via email. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 13:40, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Template: Starter Pokémon

I don't know about you, but I think the template for the Starter Pokémon needs some major changes. For example, we can remove the Rumble and MD starters and replace them with the Conquest. Also, having the yellow starters pushed to the left makes it look a little wierd. Maybe they should in the middle (right under Johto and Unova).Iml908 (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Copyright violation?

Here it is. For example, a comparison of their Krookodile page:

Krookodile is a large terracotta-colored crocodile. It has gray-black stripes around its stomach, arms, tail, and snout. Each foot is black and has three claws. Its hands have three fingers that end in a claw on each digit. Around its eyes, there is a black area resembling a bandit's mask, or a stylized pair of sunglasses. Krookodile has a periwinkle belly.

This wiki's:
Krookodile is a large terracotta-colored crocodile. It has gray-black stripes around its stomach, arms, tail, and snout. Each foot is black and has three claws. Its hands have three fingers that end in a claw on each digit. Around its eyes, there is a black area resembling a bandit's mask, or a stylized pair of sunglasses. Krookodile has a periwinkle belly.

They are copying information. Will staff be taking any action on it? --Abcboy (talk) 03:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Yup, that's definitely not a good thing. I've notified the rest of the staff. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 04:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Seeing double. They are taking our images as well and shrinking them. PattyMan 02:51, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
SnorlaxMonster has also already told them. They haven't ceased though. --Abcboy (talk) 03:22, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
I also just noticed this, this, and even this. I didn't even know they could copy contributions like that. --Abcboy (talk) 03:29, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Wow, what the hell? How did they do that? I never made those edits. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 03:39, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

About the changes you made to the Join Avenue article

I don't want to revert everything you did, but neither do I feel like putting in the enormous amount of work it would take to correct your mistakes. So I'm asking, could you please do that yourself? I think you'd figure out where you went wrong if you read the article, but I can provide some main points:

  • You've removed all the question marks from the recommendation phrase table, which were there because they had not been disconfirmed. For example, the table now says that "Is there a place where I can warm up?" is not compatible with the Raffle Shop type, when it is. Essentially, you turned a "research in progress" table into a final one, which does not make sense unless you've somehow acquired complete knowledge on it, but the example above illustrates that you have not.
  • You've also included the phrases "I want to get excited about something" and "I want to buy some delicious berries!", which I hid because the users who originally added them to the article most likely did not write them exactly as they appear in the games - first one lacks a period or an exclamation mark, second one probably capitalizes Berries like the other Berry-related phrase.
  • You changed the recommendation phrase table's point system from two columns which presented NPC fans' 75% and multiplayer representations' 100%, listing the correct point values for the various quotes, to a four column system that erroneously factors in Hall of Fame entrance, has the same point values for almost every phrase, and for some reason mentions StreetPass, which you will also discover makes little sense if you read the article.
  • You've expanded the Café table to include not only one price per service, but one for each rank as well, which you'll see is completely wrong if you read what the article says about avenue rank.

There's more, but I may be able to take care of that myself, after you've cleaned up. Yvnr (talk) 08:11, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll accept that I might have made a few errors, and you're welcome to not agree with something I did, but I don't appreciate the attitude that is present in your message.
  • I don't see how this inhibits anyone from adding in check marks when they find something that works. I think having a bunch of question marks all over the place looks sloppy, so yes, I removed them.
  • Those are simple grammar mistakes. I'd rather have a simple mistake like that than completely hiding the information should someone need to look up that specific phrase. I went ahead and made the corrections as one of my visitors just said, "I want to get excited about something!"
  • The points I received from one of the phrases was different than what was on the table, so yes, I assumed there was something different regarding the points. But you're right, it seems I was mistaken. I can't remember what the phrase was that gave me the 150 points, either. The term "Multiplayer representation" is misleading. Multiplayer means that the other player is actively controlling themselves, which is not the case here. I've changed it simply to "other players".
  • Fair enough. I was focused on templates and did not read that. I've also corrected the prices I added to their non-discounted amount. I still don't know which Café I have, so I'm unsure how to correct the Ranks which you receive each dish. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 10:34, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Attitude? Come on, my message was about as matter-of-fact as possible. Please don't try to make this personal just because I informed you of your mistakes.
  • I agree that this is a matter of opinion, and as long as I'm not responsible for the choice, I can accept the lack of question marks.
  • You fixed this.
  • You partially fixed this, except for the point values, which you've listed as 75/100 for most phrases, when they in fact have specific values. You will find these if you look at the article as it was before you made your changes.
    • Naming those characters is tricky. They were previously referred to as "avatars of other players". I'd say that "other players" sounds more like they are actually being controlled than "multiplayer representations" does, though, but I'm quite indifferent to what they are called.
  • You fixed this. I thought you identified your Café variation after our exchange at my talk page, but it seems you didn't. Again, look at the NPC fan table, which says Jocelyn wants to open a Café (A). Unless the original contributor made a mistake, that means your Café is variation A. Variation A has Power Lunch A at Rank 1, while Variation B has Power Lunch F at Rank 1. Yvnr (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


Does nobody likes to welcome new user's or did I miss a new rule stating "that a user must be welcomed only if they do edits", Just wondering--Jaison Clinton Castelino 16:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I can't really answer the first question cause I don't know what everyone is thinking, but we do prefer that experienced users welcome new ones, that way if the new user goes to their welcomer for advice they're more likely to get the help they need. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the answers--Jaison Clinton Castelino 15:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Join Avenue

I've noticed the inuse template has been removed from the Join Avenue page, was this done by you regarding you've finished, or was this done by someone else? As you've noticed, I'm rather new here, so I'm not too familiar with how this works. thank you, ToxicAtom (talk) 14:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It was me. I had finished the work I was doing. You can always check the history pages (locatd at the top of the site) to see who did what to the article. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 14:41, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

About my forced preview

I've been forced to preview my edits from November 22, 2012, over two months now. Could you please take me out of this user group, I think I've been in it long enough. Thank you. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:56, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Speaking of this, how long does forced preview last? TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 15:32, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Until it is taken off. I'll see what other people think of your situation, Finnish. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 15:48, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll be waiting. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:54, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
I've discussed it with other staff members, and we've all decided that because you still tend to have issues with editing pages multiple times, to leave it as it is. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 03:42, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


Are the last two trivia in the Pokédex article really needed? TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 20:51, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Dennou Zenshi solved this problem. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 21:05, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Learnset: namespace

Hey Jo --

What is the purpose of the Learnset: namespace? I've noticed it in my search settings and was wondering if there is anything in there; if not, whether it would ever be used. Once I get autoconfirmed in a few days I will be more than happy to help utilize it. Since you're the Head of Games, and that's where learnsets are typically used, I figured you might know the answer. Thanks, ChiefbozX (talk) 04:21, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

The Learnsets were going to be given their own pages at one point in time, but the idea was tossed, so there's literally no point to the namespace. Don't worry about it. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 04:27, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. ChiefbozX (talk) 04:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Location Infobox

The location infobox as shown here on the Miror B.'s Hideout page automatically attempts to find a map for the location with the same name as the location (in this case, the non-existent "Orre Miror B.'s Hideout Map.png"). However, the appropriate image would be the map location of Pyrite Town (this image). This leaves two possible solutions, either modifying the template (which could most likely cause all sorts of unforeseen glitches on pages), or creating a page for "File:Orre Miror B.'s Hideout Map.png" that would contain a redirect to "File:Orre Pyrite Town map.png". While the latter seems like the most logical and simple solution, I am simply seeking approval in case creating redirects for each location in Orre to their corresponding map locations isn't desired. --Nairbnroh (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I would be okay with the creation a file redirect. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 19:14, 28 February 2013 (UTC)