User talk:Force Fire/Archive 7

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Re: Sources

(Sorry, I didn't know where to respond) I wish I could share an image of the source e-mail, but there's a footnote in Theresa Buchheister's signature that says I can't share it. I have no reason to lie about this information, and if you look at the credits the information is corroborated. Technickal (talk) 13:24, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Whilst I doubt that you would lie about it, proof is still needed. As for the email, just email me the image of the email. That way there's no need to upload it on an image sharing site.--ForceFire 13:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
May I please ask what you will use the source for? Will you share it with anybody else? I really don't want to breach the contract.
Never mind. I got the OK from Ms. Buchheister. What's your e-mail so I can forward it to you? Technickal (talk) 16:17, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Relax, I'm just going to view the image. Just use the email user function on the site.--ForceFire 03:31, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Weird user(s)/vandal?

Alright. So, first this user started changing Brock's Mudkip to Paul's Mudkip (obviously wrong). And then created this second account. I'll let you handle it from here. --リックEO (メッセージ) 07:08, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

He hasn't done much since, so I decided to give him a warning and block the other account.--ForceFire 08:28, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

My edits

Is there any real reason you decided to undo all of my edits across multiple pages or is it just because you are upset I added a piece of trivia to Chespin and you venting?Pikablu (talk) 15:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

I gave my reasons in the edit summary.--ForceFire 16:11, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Reasons or not you went and undid everything I have been doing despite the fact that most of it should not be removed. The fact that all of it is stuff I have done is just bullying and abusing your power.Pikablu (talk) 16:39, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
First of all, that is not bullying, what you have written on your talk page is that Clemont's Chespin is the first owned by a main character to not be owned by Ash, there are many main characters not to be owned by Ash, such as Togepi, Onix, Geodude, Staryu, Psyduck and many more, what you actually added on it's page was Chespin is the only regional Grass-type starter that Ash hasn't obtained , this not for a Pokémon owned by a main character, it is for a SPECIES AS A WHOLE Pratik_12 Talk 17:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
I wrote it is the first regional grass starter, which narrows it down to a point that makes it trivia worthy. It is only meant for Clemont's Chespin, not the species as a whole. - unsigned comment from Pikablu (talkcontribs)

(resetting indent) Okay, let me get this to you, in anime, there are many Chespin, not a single Chespin in the anime, so therefore it should be added to the Species Page, i.e Chespin Pratik_12 Talk 17:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

While I understand that, what I am trying to say is that Clemont's Chespin is the first regional grass starter to be owned by a main character but not belong to Ash.Pikablu (talk) 17:39, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
You aren't the first user who've I've checked their contributions to see the type of edits they make, and trust me, you aren't the only one.--ForceFire 05:54, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

"Composed is a more musical term"

You recently reverted some of my edits and stated that "Composed is a more musical term" although compose is generally used in a musical term it is not exclusive to music and is perfectly acceptable in many other contexts. Composed of means that the subject of the sentence is made of the object. In the Veilstone City example the dojo is made of several smaller rooms, as I stated earlier comprise is to be used as an active verb so "comprised of" is inappropriate as this is a passive verb so in the Veilstone City example "Veilstone Gym is a dojo comprised of several smaller rooms" means that it is a dojo contained within several smaller rooms which shouldn't make any sense. The argument you used to support "comprised of" is that it "flows" better, this shouldn't be an issue with "composed of" as the pronunciation is very similar. So in conclusion "composed of" should be just as good, maybe even better. Thank you. Ratchet and Clank 1995 (talk) 16:54, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

You seem to be laboring under the same misconception as another user was; "comprised" very much does not have to equal "contains". Passive usage is also not wrong (both Wiktionary and Webster's have quotes using "comprised of").
In short, there is not really a good reason to change "comprised of". It was discussed on your talk page before. If you weren't convinced, you really should have revisited that discussion, instead of revisiting the pages you were previously reverted on. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:16, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Context, my friend. If something is "comprised of" an object, it consists of or contains the object. --ForceFire 04:41, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

New cast information

Check your e-mail for proof. Technickal (talk) 23:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Feel free to add the information.--ForceFire 02:17, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Linkage

On episode articles featuring first-stage Pokémon (i.e.: Froakie) that appeared in flashbacks but already evolved several episodes ago, would it be okay to link it to the form it's currently in on the list of Pokémon that appeared in the episode so Ash's Froakie's flashback appearance in XY085 occurred way after it evolved meaning I could link it to Frogadier's page, or would that still count as spoilers? PattyMan 03:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, since it's not really much of a spoiler.--ForceFire 03:31, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
It was something done like this by the way. PattyMan 03:40, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
That's fine.--ForceFire 03:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Request to add Pokemon India Events to Pokemon in South Asia page

Pokemon made an appearance in World Children's expo, Delhi, and Camlin has partnered with Pokemon for Camlin Pokemon Carnival and launch of Pokemon Stationeries. Details have been given in Pokemon in South Asia Talk page. I think some content could be added to Trivia.Kanhakris16 Dreamtheatre fb page 03:45 (UTC), 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Ash Hawlucha personalty

So we can't say it is Independent pokemon It went on its own to train in the forest not telling the others --SilverioBOMB (talk) 05:17, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

can we say Hawlucha is independent --SilverioBOMB (talk) 21:54, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding edit in Route 4

Hi!

I see that you undid my edit in the Kanto Route 4 page. Regarding the reason you gave, there is only as much north in Route 4 in Gen I and III, as there is in Gen II and IV, as you can see in the route map. As per current info, Mt. Moon is to the north of Route 4 only in Gen II and IV, so how would a player reach Mt. Moon in Gen I and III? They have to go through Route 4 and after entering Route 4, they have to go in the Northern direction (or rather North-Western), just like in Gen II and IV. If it stays as you have now made it, then it would mean that Mt. Moon cannot be reached through Route 4 in Gen I and III, which is incorrect.

Ishu bagaria (talk) 20:32, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Mt. Moon is part of Route 4 in Generations I and III. To get to Mt. Moon, you have to traverse through Route 4.--ForceFire 03:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Just Checking

This kind of edit is within reasonable grounds for editing others' comments, right? I replied here as well, but it's just turning the images into links (in the one case with a description matching the image title) and not otherwise editing, even for separate comment spacing. CycloneGU (talk) 04:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I think that's okay, if the images are large and make the discussion seem unreadable, then it's fine.--ForceFire 04:40, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Pre-evolution tutor moves

A while ago, I got into a small disagreement with another user on how to handle certain pre-evolution exclusive moves. After discussing it for a while on his talk page, he suggested I bring it up with an admin, which I think I meant to do but kind of forgot to until now. The edits in question are here, here, and here. The source of disagreement was on whether or not certain moves that could only be obtained via pre-evolution in XY but could be tutored in ORAS needed any special indication on the table. I provided a few examples on his talk page of learnsets where this had been done in the past (for move tutors available in Emerald/B2W2/Pt/HGSS but not the other games of the generation), including the Generation V learnsets of both Pokémon in question. I'm just wondering which is correct, the old pages or the new ones? And if the new ones are correct, do the old ones need to be updated, or is it just a special exception for Gen VI?--Cold (talk) 15:12, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

I feel like the tags also implies that it knows the moves prior to evolution only in those games, as in Musharna would only know Zen Headbutt prior to evolution only in XY, which is obviously not the case. Another thing, the reason of move tutors making the prior learning pointless doesn't really matter. It doesn't mean Zen Headbutt can't be both tutored and learned before evolution. As for which is correct, it's obvious that I'm saying get rid of them, but ask another admin for another opinion. That, and I'm kinda out of touch with the learnlist templates, so I don't really remember which is the correct way.--ForceFire 15:31, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

PkMn pゥぁ ゥぇHijinx

We need to talk about 3 pages. PkMn pゥぁ ゥぇ PkMn (DC) So you said that the dex entry was for the pゥぁ ゥぇ. And its name is PkMn.We need to move hexes CE and D6. Racerjames200 (talk) 13:43, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Hey their

I'm trying to chat with u on Fourms but u don't reply

r u upset with me --SilverioBOMB (talk) 05:39, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm not on the forums very often.--ForceFire 05:47, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

so no videos either its shows Noibat hatching --SilverioBOMB (talk) 06:27, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

it was very cool video can we please put some videos instead of photos --SilverioBOMB (talk) 06:28, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Too many gifs will cause the page to load slowly. And we don't need a gif or on image of Noibat hatching, we don't have one for Phanpy/Togepi/Larvitar/Eevee etc.. hatching.--ForceFire 06:33, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

i could find those if u like--SilverioBOMB (talk) 06:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I can't say what my opinions are on these pages either we are discussing that all its feels like their no point helping out --SilverioBOMB (talk) 07:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Mobile browsers and Ads

Hi Force Fire. After writing a long message to only have it not submit properly. I'm trying again. This issue has been a huge pet peeve of mine for the past month. Ads, which bind to right side and bottom, take up ~3/4 of a page on a mobile screen. Rendering the use of the wiki page virtually impossible. They stay outside the frame for the text of the article. But, things like route maps fallout side of those frames on mobile, and then underneath ads. Also, zooming in doesn't move the ads out of view, they stick with you, so now if something was too small to read, it's large enough but gets covered up. Lastly. I discovered logging in removes the ads, sure nice, but logging in every time I come here shouldn't be necessary

I searched for well over an hour to find a feedback place on the site. But to no luck. Contacting you is the best solution I came up with. Hopefully you will be able to push this information and come up with a good solution. (Wingeddonkey (talk) 05:44, 10 September 2015 (UTC))

Hello, regarding technical aspects of the site you are best to ask Archaic on the forums, or create a thread on the bulbawiki forum. --ForceFire 05:57, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good. Wilco. And thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Wingeddonkey (talk) 06:06, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

New Section of Character page

We should make new section

Pokemon that failed to be captured

Captured Failed Ash tries to catch pokemon that failed we will Picture and deatils and moves as well --SilverioBOMB (talk) 16:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

That rarely ever happens, so no.--ForceFire 16:22, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

What Ash try to catch few like Weedle, Dusprnce, Wild pidove, and few others Clemont failed to capture Tyrantrum. Dawn as well--SilverioBOMB (talk) 18:14, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

You've only listed three examples, that's far too small to consider creating a new section/page.--ForceFire 03:51, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh i try to remember their more it doesn't have to main characters their also other character of the day Like the Fishman Master who try to catch Whispur by a Master Ball

Iris tried to capture Meowth.--SilverioBOMB (talk) 04:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Character of the Days are too minor to give any special mention. I've already said no, and I'm going to stress again, it is not needed.--ForceFire 04:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Brock wanted to catch Donphan--SilverioBOMB (talk) 04:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)