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Inkster

While I've already posted on their talk page, I did want to bring this up to a staff member as well. I believe that Inkster's behavior on the wiki has become borderline obtrusive, especially in regards to their focus on timeline and age-related matters. Although they have already been partially blocked from multiple pages, I don't think this will be enough to deter their behavior.

They have shown a tendency to flip-flop on their opinions:

• On the "Player character" page, they constantly removed this piece of info, only for them to add it back after it was gone for over a month.

• They have constantly gone back and forth on whether or not Rei/Akari are "around 15".

• The core series page as a whole has had multiple instances of this, and now they're claiming that the idea of Gen 1 being set in 1996 was "explicitly made up" by them (and this is also a pretty clear violation of the code of conduct.

They also have a very clear history of edit warring (which includes the pages they're currently blocked from, but they also have history with the "Player character" and "History of the Pokémon world" pages as well). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 15:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Just to add a bit more to the code of conduct point I mentioned above. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 13:10, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

How can we merge two images?

the image on the right was tagged as unacceptable due to being hacked but I couldn’t revert it back to the older image so I uploaded a new one. Would it be possible to merge both images so they can use the same filename in any way?

Pikmin3WiiU (talk) 03:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I've reuploaded the image back to the previous image, seems whoever uploaded the emulated image has a history of doing so.--ForceFire 13:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

It looks like you reverted back to the hacked image. The guy has also been banned from MarioWiki and SmashWiki for uploading emulated images like this so

Pikmin3WiiU (talk) 13:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

The site's being weird, it shows the correct image on the subspace emissary page amd when you click on the image, it shows the correct version.--ForceFire 17:06, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Chloe: a main character confirmation? (Part 2)

Sorry to resurrect this discussion, but ... Chloe appears among Ash's friends in the new opening, I think it's an indication that she is a main character(or something more than a recurring character), no?I mean, I don't know, in the last episode of Journeys they kind of wanted to put Chloe side by side with Goh and Ash. Especially in the last scene.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 11:02, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree that Chloe has received far more focus than any other supporting character throughout the series, and could honestly be considered something of a pseudo main character at this point.

However, the thing that dissuades me from considering her a main character proper is her lack of appearances throughout Journeys compared to Ash and Goh: She's only appeared in roughly 39% of the main series episodes (and even if only counting episodes beginning with her obtaining Eevee, it's still only a roughly 41% appearance rate). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 11:14, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Her being one of Ash's friends doesn't change the fact that she's a supporting character. The overall story of Journeys doesn't focus on her, it focuses on Ash and Goh. Landfish7 11:26, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I mean, I don't disagree (hence why I described her as a "pseudo main character)". I wasn't arguing in favor of her being considered a main character (quite the opposite, in fact). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 11:45, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Chloe appears in more episodes than Team Rocket in Journeys, and in fact, since Sun & Moon we have cases of main characters that didn't appear in all the episodes of their origin saga. And I don't understand why my comment ended up here, but anyway...--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 11:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I already explained why I moved it... You posted on an archived talk page, so I simply moved the discussion to the current talk page where it's more relevant.

Team Rocket were main characters for the first three series and continued to appear in all future series as well.

The lowest physical appearance rate for an active human protagonist in a saga is Lana who appeared in roughly 88% of the Alola episodes. This is still a significant difference from Chloe. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 12:05, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

PMJ: I was responding to Hikaru. Sorry for the confusion. Landfish7 12:24, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Still not listed as such here.--ForceFire 12:58, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

{{Male}}

I saw we have gender templates that I don't think have been used much, so I replaced these on a few templates for consistency and simplicity. Only thing is the bright cyan used on the male template contrasts extremely poorly against Bulbapedia's white background, so I was wondering if you could change it to the blue that we have otherwise been using (#0070f8) or perhaps even something darker like #0055b3.-- 4iamking (talk) 19:26, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I've changed the color to the first suggested color, definitely more seeable now.--ForceFire 13:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Assumptions

Next time, don't make false assumptions about me when you block me. I do take my messages seriously. I just happen to be imprudent by nature, which can make it seem like i mean harm, but no.Eternium-Z (talk) 08:57, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Spambots

BernieceTvd and BernardDupont61 appear to be spambots. Landfish7 04:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Dealt with.--ForceFire 05:07, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Christine64T is another one. Landfish7 01:34, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

HaydenCranswick. Landfish7 00:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

MeridithMorehous. Landfish7 06:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

WesleyIkx44718. Landfish7 00:38, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

ZaraMoorman008. Landfish7 06:46, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

(resetting indent) DarciAckman461. Landfish7 06:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

This probably counts too. The others with the same kind of edit have already been blocked and deleted. Landfish7 08:21, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Editing while watching the anime?

Hi, I have a question. Am I allowed to edit during the airing of the show or should I wait and edit after the episode is aired? Thanks for answering. (QuickJolteon (talk) 11:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC))

Any edits to an episode during showtime must be made after the show is over. This way, users can edit in one go, rather than in smaller patches.--ForceFire 13:54, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Bruh.

Ok, let's start our long conversation. Grookeyscorbunnysobble is in my school science class, and he's 13 now. You can even check his user tags to prove it, it'll show the same thing. AxewBowser2 (talk) 20:20, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

No need for the attitude, wasn't aware of their birthdate. They've been unblocked.--ForceFire

Beheeyem's Steel Wings

You said that move that Pokemon shouldn't learn trivia goes to move page, but Area 51 reference is unique for Beheeyem.--Rocket Grunt 18:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

The area 51 bit is fine to mention.--ForceFire 05:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Eternium-Z again

Eternium-Z has made multiple consecutive edits onto the individual articles during the last few days, despite past reminders to use the preview button. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:36, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

A certain user

While I've had my suspicions on this user for a while, I think it might be worth looking into them now.

I'm pretty sure that BlueSparkles is Kittystyler. The pages that they edit are more or less in line with confirmed sockpuppets, and this feels like a classic "Kittystyler adding character relationships to pages" edit, complete with a similar grammar structure. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 00:36, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

I've been monitoring their edits, and while they're similar, it's still circumstantial. They still don't have an IP address that matches previous KittyStyler socks.--ForceFire 05:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

TurtwigFan4848

TurtwigFan4848 has been making multiple consecutive edits on Gimmighoul and Gholdengo's pages. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:30, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Eternium-Z

Eternium-Z continues to revert and add things back in with no attempt to discuss it first. Landfish7 06:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

There's only so many chances I can give a user...--ForceFire 07:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

List of clothing page

Is it alright for me to update the list of clothing page with liko and roy's outfits? (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 22:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC))

Looks like you did it anyway. Don't ask and then do it anyway, have a bit of patience. It's fine, but the empty sections weren't necessary, do I've hid them.--ForceFire 05:05, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

VILRO

A user names VILRO has been almost exclusively editing JN142 by adding trivia and errors to the article with multiple consecutive edits, despite having been reminded to use the preview button. Plus, the content of their edits seems questionable in terms of notability and grammar. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 00:12, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Hey, I'll take care of this one this time. ^Maverick_Nate 00:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Much appreciated, MN. The same same seems to be now occurring with JN143. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

This likely isn’t my business to get involved in but I wanted to inform you of Fernandez0907

Fernandez0907 had been banned from Drawception. I’m not too sure what the reason is but it doesn’t matter to me. This guy has been bothering Vellidragon for like more than three months on many different sites about the ban, most notably on WiKirby and SmashWiki. Given that Fernandez0907 is bothering Vellidragon again here, I thought maybe you could permaban.

Pikmin 3 Wii U 02:38, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW WOW WOW WUBBZY

Well, --ForceFire 05:15, 20 February 2023 (UTC) Mr. ForceFire I am very active in the fandom and I very commonly see people discuss shipping, so to say that the idea of shipping has "Died down" would be inaccurate. A better way to put it would be something like "Parts of the fandom have historically been against the idea of shipping, but it is still discussed in some spheres." - unsigned comment from ASIZZLE (talk • contribs)

Shipping still being around here and there is already stated on the article: "conversations about them only occurring in small pockets of the community."--ForceFire 10:25, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Sorry!

Sorry, don't do any deleting (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 12:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC))

I want to rename them (Unless you can) with "Concept Art"

-File:Captain Pikachu.png -File:Professor Friede 2023.png -File:Professor Freed 2023.png (Can you delete this file? It has the character name spelled wrong) (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 12:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC))

Nevermind someone already fixed captain pikachu (Can you delete mine?) (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 12:46, 24 February 2023 (UTC))

Get over it

i am an Ashketchumpikachu sock if ur wondering, but The Incident was a year and a half ago, and i was only testing da system. i never apologized because you friggin' BLOCKED me before i could. can you please let me live? its a new year, a new generation, a new protagonist for the anime, and new beginnings. AshPikachu2023 (talk) 20:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Lapras herd

I was wondering if the Lapras herd that had major roles in EP113, EP257 and briefly appeared in JN143 were worthy of their own page?--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 17:44, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Sure, they're definitely important characters.--ForceFire 08:50, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

So characters that showed up with only one major role are more deserving of a page than Leon's Charizard, a Pokémon that played a large role in an entire series? Rahl (talk) 11:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

The criteria for recurring Pokemon are different from Pokemon owned by Champions. It is not the same thing.--ForceFire 13:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

trainer profile

After the first episode is aired, can I make the trainer profile then? (If it is hers) (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 10:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC))

Yes, the page is in your userpage: User:CuteSylveon42/Liko's Sprigatito, so if it ever happens, just move it back to the mainspace.--ForceFire 11:36, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Is the liko page that you protected in my userpage or is it a different page? (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 12:01, 3 March 2023 (UTC))

You're userpage is not protected.--ForceFire 16:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Not my userpage, the liko page that you moved into my userpage, is that the one you protected, because I make two liko pages and one is deleted. (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 17:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC))

The one in your userspace is not protected. The other I deleted and put a creation protection on it.--ForceFire 05:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, if the upcoming trailers for pokemon 2023 confirms that Sprigatito is liko's, can I move the page as a main page? (CuteSylveon42 (talk) 06:12, 13 March 2023 (UTC))

It can be moved once the episode it gets caught in has aired.--ForceFire 10:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

VILRO

A user named VILRO seems to only add errors to episode articles and nothing else. They also repeatedly make multiple edits on one page in a row. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:58, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Pikablu

Pikablu is edit warring on Ash's Incineroar: they consider Nebby as one of Ash's Pokémon, and are using that to dismiss a valid trivia point. Many users have told Pikablu that Nebby was not officially Ash's Pokémon, but they disagree. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:31, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

I disagree because the anime has made it very clear they consider it his Pokémon. I’m removing false information. Would you consider Misty’s Togetic not her Pokémon just because it wasn’t put into a ball? What about Mimey and Delia before we saw its Poke Ball? Or iris’s Axew in BW? Not every Trainer-Pokémon relation is dependent on a ball.--Pikablu (talk) 12:11, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

I've had a similar discussion regarding ownership of Nebby with Rahl last year, my opinion on the matter is that while it doesn't fit our requirement of ownership, the anime has consistently added Nebby in pics relating to Ash's Pokemon so it's fine.--ForceFire 13:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Ash Trivia

Hi! Is it too early to have this [1] trivia point on articles such as Ash's Incineroar? Just clarifying, thanks!

Noelephant213 (talk) 01:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Latias anime

With Latias having had a major role in three episodes, I was wondering if User:Hikaru Wazana/Latias (anime) was OK to be mainspaced?--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 10:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Latias is fine to be mai spaced.--ForceFire 13:35, 17 March 2023 (UTC)