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Fossil disagreement

Altruis (talk • contribs) and I disagree on the Fossils used to restore Dracovish in JN051. Can you help? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I understand. I brought up the issue with the other staff members. While I'm leaning towards the conservative approach of assuming this is another liberty taken from by the anime, it will have an impact on several pages (Ash's Dracovish, for one), so I want to discuss a plan of action regardless of our conclusion. - Chosen (Talk) 20:15, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I understand. But I also saw your reuploads of the Fossil combination sprites. Those look like the only not possible combinations: two head pieces together and two leg pieces together. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:10, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Wait, actually, are those actually their incorrectly swapped game sprites? I get it. But anyway, the anime image titles don't now match the Fossils they depict. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Deletion request

Could you delete the "Wikstrom's Scyther" redirect page I created? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:45, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Hikaru_Wazana#Candidates_to_delete

Hi, I would like to know if the pages in this section can be deleted? I think they are not going anywhere, so there is no point in keeping them.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 16:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

All requested pages deleted. - Chosen (Talk) 01:06, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 01:36, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

There are multiple unused redirect pages leading to a section on Goh's page that no longer exists. Could you remove them? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:16, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Can I ask where? Which ones? The Broken Redirects page only refers to fully deleted pages, so if the section doesn't exist, it will still redirect to the top of Goh's page. - Chosen (Talk) 03:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

If you go to the list of pages linking to Goh's page, and view 500 pages at a time, on the second page, there's a group of redirect pages to Goh's minor Pokémon, which use his and Cerise Park's Japanese names. I was referring to those. I hope you understand what I am referring to now. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. I'll take a look. - Chosen (Talk) 13:42, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

No problem. Your solution is perfectly good. Next up: the title of BW092 was recently edited on Bulbapedia from "Ash, Iris and Trip: Then There Were Three!" to "Ash, Iris, and Trip: Then There Were Three!", with a comma added after "Iris". I checked the title card from the actual episode, and indeed, this seems to hold true. So, should the redirect pages with this slightly incorrect title be deleted? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:17, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Personally, I would keep both up, since other offical sources use the other format. - Chosen (Talk) 14:44, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Sure. I'm fine with that. I've already started editing the links around Bulbapedia to include the extra comma. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Keep it up. - Chosen (Talk) 15:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I actually managed to do it already. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Edit request

Could you edit the "New episode" template to add a link to Chloe's Eevee in the "Pokémon" section, given that it now has its own article, as well as hide Cinderace, since the last two episodes have shown it's not guaranteed to appear in every episode? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. - Chosen (Talk) 18:26, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

You forgot to remove the 's from Eevee's part. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:09, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for letting me know. - Chosen (Talk) 19:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

No problem. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Could you edit {{Captains and Kahunas of Alola}} to include the newly uploaded USUM VS models? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Done. - Chosen (Talk) 16:03, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Could you edit the "Trainerentry" template to redirect "Galactic Grunt" to "Team Galactic Grunt"? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

I'll do it later tonight. Trainerentry is a high-traffic, complex template, and if I go making changes to it during peak hours, it may cause slowdowns. - Chosen (Talk) 15:52, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Fine by me. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

The Gamer Trainer class has been renamed PI in BDSP. Can you edit the Trainerentry template accordingly? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Also, Secret Potion has been renamed Secret Medicine. I tried moving the article, but was unable to. Can you do it? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:35, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Yesterday, I discovered that the Belle & Pa Trainer class has been renamed "Ranchers". Could you edit the Trainerentry template accordingly? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:19, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Done. - Chosen (Talk) 12:58, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

How do uncredited voice roles get approved?

This wiki seems to have an inconsistent policy on inferring uncredited roles for certain voice actors. For instance, Ikue Ohtani rarely if ever gets official credit listings for any of her voice roles besides Pikachu to my knowledge, but her page here lists many roles besides Pikachu. I noticed that years ago someone added Sawyer (then known only as Shōta) to that list, but commented it out because there was no official credit for that role. Then, you uncommented it, presumably because it was obvious enough that she voiced him without any official credit.

I tried the same thing recently with Team Rocket's Rotom Phone where I added the rather obvious Ikue Ohtani role (it was even on the Japanese wiki already) but commented it out due to lack of official credit. But an Editorial Board member simply removed it instead. So I'm wondering how exactly Sawyer got approved and the other role didn't. Is it just different Bulbapedia staff having different policies? Or did you end up finding an official source for Sawyer? I'm legitimately curious. PaperSplash (talk) 21:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

In my defense in regards to Sawyer, I beleive there was press materials, such as interviews with Ohtani, during XY/XY&Z that confirmed her role as Sawyer. However, it was my mistake to unhide the credit simply because it was unhidden on his character page.

Our official voice actor speculation policy is stated here. - Chosen (Talk) 15:38, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Rival Tech

Given that you just included Lear as a rival because he's got the "Rival Tech" in Masters EX, should N count as a rival too, since he also has it? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Actually, it's the Rival Strike with N, not Tech. But my point still stands. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:39, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Hikaru Wazana

Over time, I've tried giving User:Hikaru Wazana advices on how to edit Bulbapedia and Archives, like what link templates to use and when, and how to maintain a consistent tense within a text. Despite all of that, however, HW still keeps repeating those mistakes she uploading images with questionable notability. Examples include these edits on Chloe's page and this Water Stone image. The image's notability is questionable, since we already have an image of that stone, where it's in much better focus. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:20, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Really? I mean, REALLY???

Let me get this straight...the last episode detailed on Chloe's page was aired on September 8th of last year(Eevee capture episode). ALMOST ONE YEAR. Chloe's page goes MONTHS without any updates, even though the character gains immense focus in the anime after that. What's irrelevant about the content I put there?

Again, of the three protagonists of Journeys, Chloe's page has the fewest people concerned about updating.

I didn't go to the admin to complain about you putting game content on the anime character page(aka. "Giovanni's" Koffing) without any discussion about it. The rule of confirming something before posting seems to apply only when it's convenient. Instead of complaining, it wasn't more profitable, you and I coordinated efforts and brought that page up to date?

But even so, I've been thinking about giving up collaborating with right here for some time. This kind of thing only helps more in this.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 18:50, 04 August 2021 (UTC)

With regards to Chloe's page, I agree that it is in great need of updating and any way either of you can contribute, instead of immediately dismissing, is appreciated. Even if there are issues with tense and grammar, it would be poor form, in my opinion, to infract Hikaru for failing to completely understand the English language. On the other hand, I don't think the Water Stone and Galarian Rapidash need to be on Chloe's page; rather, they could find places on their respective episode pages, such as in the plot or summary of major events. - Chosen (Talk) 23:32, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

It seems I'm not the only one who has a problem with HW's writing style. Also, I feel HW's above response was unnecessarily aggressive. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:10, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it's really cool to read others complaining about when you try to collaborate with the site, after all, it's no work to search for images, take screens of the episodes, put them in standard size, upload, create pages for specific characters or trainers' Pokémon so that others can come complaining nominally about what you post. But you won, I removed everything I put there. I left the page as it was before. For me it's over,

Let's see when someone will be able to put something back there.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 13:20, 05 August 2021 (UTC)

Really Finnish? You had to bully someone for trying to improve a page? I don’t see you adding that information or going in after to fix it up. This is a community. We should be helping each other, not driving them away out of pettiness.--Pikablu (talk) 13:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm not bullying anyone. I simply stated what's been happening: I've tried to give advice to HW many times in the past, but the sane mistakes keep on occuring. It gets tiresome to have to fix similar mistakes all the time. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:37, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

It's true that some pages, like Chloe's, need more content, but the quality of the content also needs to be good and notable enough. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:40, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

If you have a dispute with another member's edits, moving straight to a Senior Administrator and trying to have your will done is not the way to go and will result in animosity from them - and from the member feeling bullied - as a result. Please discuss things with the member in good faith and attempt to come to a consensus on what the page needs. Force Fire already took action and it seems Hizaku has also moved on.

For everyone involved, if you feel information should be added to the page - or, similarly, if you feel information should not be necessary on the page - please start a discussion on this talk page and come to a consensus. That's why articles have talk pages: to foster discussion. We are here to assist if needed beyond that, and I advise contacting a Junior or regular level Administrator to request such a review; it can be escalated as necessary. I hope we can close this matter until such a review may be needed. Thank you. CycloneGU (talk) 15:42, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Template:Worldcoronation

Is the protection of this template necessary? It may have to be edited quite frequently, and doing it would be easier of it wasn't protected. PS. Could you add Cynthia to it? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:09, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I made the edits to the template and changed the protection to semi-protected. - Chosen (Talk) 20:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. That's good enough for me. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:40, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Photodex

Hey, I was wondering if you could explain your move from "Photodex" to "List of Pokémon by Photodex order" a while back. Was there a discussion somewhere?

When I saw it, I was actually hoping you would create a proper Photodex article within the next days and just have the list be elsewhere, but now that that hasn't happened I was wondering if I could create a proper Photodex article myself, or else suggest to move it back, etc. Nescientist (talk) 14:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

The move was to facilitate a proper Photodex page, yes. It also makes it conistent with other side game numbering lists (i.e. List of Pokémon by Fiore Browser number, List of Pokémon by Ransei Gallery order, ect.)

A proper Photodex article, I beleive, would start by detailing the various menu options of the Photodex and the star and ranking system. If we were to replace the list itself, I think I would like a breakdown all locations and poses for the Pokémon and what star rank they correspond to, without taking information from unwanted sources. - Chosen (Talk) 15:02, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Alright. I might try something in the next days, if I find the time. (Since I won't do that, it'd certainly be helpful if you had the means to have relevant pictures uploaded somehow.)

About the list, I didn't mean to replace it. (Actually, I was thinking the list was fine, and ideally all that poses and star rank stuff should just be at the course pages, with species pages linking to relevant courses.) Nescientist (talk) 15:16, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

If you post a draft on your User: space and direct me to it, I'll take a look at it tomorrow while I have the time. I have a copy of the game, so adding a few images shouldn't be much of a problem. - Chosen (Talk) 15:18, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

The next days as in definitely not today =P But thanks, I'll let you know! Nescientist (talk) 15:21, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Started at User:Nescientist/Photodex, please feel free to complete. As for pictures, I'd suggest a complete Pokémon detail page (Vivillon?) and a (preferably complete) detailed course map, and maybe a picture of the album cover as the main one (that's part of an animation that won't always show up). Nescientist (talk) 23:35, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

(resetting indent)I've uploaded a few of my own pictures based on the three menu functions. I don't know if I have a completed course map with Pokémon, however. - Chosen (Talk) 02:21, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

I think it's ready. (Not sure if the crystabloom picture is actually necessary, though.) Not sure which title you want to move it to; the languages currently are just "Photodex". Nescientist (talk) 22:28, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Template:Spindata/NewSnap links to the Photodex list. Should it stay that way, or should it be changed to link to the Photodex article? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:27, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

That's fine. There are links similar in the Ranger spindata templates too. - Chosen (Talk) 04:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Now that I take a look at that, yeah. You're right. It's fine as it is. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:13, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Userbox images

Hi! I was just wondering why exactly you changed the images from sprites to artwork in the Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl userbox templates that I created. I feel that using sprites is more consistent with other userbox templates (such as the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire ones). Pale Prism (talk) 04:48, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

The User Version templates have used artwork since X and Y, including {{User Omega Ruby}} and {{User Alpha Sapphire}}. - Chosen (Talk) 15:06, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

…Huh. Well, I don't know what the heck I was looking at, but I could've sworn that the ORAS userboxes used sprites… Carry on! Pale Prism (talk) 23:05, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Calyrex's quotes

Hi, Chosen. Surely you've notice I copy your sandbox article about Calyrex. I just do that in order to fulfill a Quotes sub-article, not taking a credit. I've check 3 movies on Youtube to see any quotes, and now I've managed to complete this sub-article. There's a link to quotes I have manage to gather about it. You may feel free to copy them and paste to your own Calyrex article and move it to mainspace. A reason it don't contain other answers like Freezington T-shirt or samba dance (>.>?) is most of videos on Youtube contain a quest on rightful track, with no detours... and I feel a bit awkward about them. But regardless, you have now near-complete quote to your Calyrex character article. ---Modikisha (talk) 14:39, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, Modikisha. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. Next time however, you are welcome to edit my User: drafts with any information you might find relevant. The ultimate goal of Userspaced page, after all, is to be mainspaced. - Chosen (Talk) 00:23, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey chosen, I may be submitting another revision to JN074 soon

Due to the episode soon premiering with no channel marks, I will be recapturing the DUB edit screenshot. Doomspir ez (talk) 12:32, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Okay. Submit it under File:JN075 dub edit.png, and we'll take it from there. - Chosen (Talk) 00:32, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks like someone beat me to the punch already! - Doomspir ez

Event templates

Hey, Ive been seeing that you merged the event templates that I split, I just wanted to say that the reason I did this is because games can't communicate with others that have different origin marks, BDSP and SwSh have Pkm files that are totally different and are incompatible if it weren't for something like home or 3rd party tools like pkhex to convert the Pokemon files, so to me it made sense as that was what always happened. LGPE also has separate templates from other gen 7 games due to there not being any communication between LGPE and the 3ds line. For legends arceus this gets even more problematic because the templates include things that aren't a thing this game, such as ribbons and held items, and Pokemon distributed to this game will probably not have any data for it (though we will have to see about ribbons) for this reason a template without these parameters kind of makes sense to me.

Also for the Gen 6/7 Event Head templates, I would move the sprite box 70px instead of 40px (as it is on the gen8/LGPE template) because right now the sprite tend to obscure a lot of text and makes it hard to read 4iamking (talk) 17:03, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

The difference between PE and 3DS and SwSh and BDSP is that, assumedly, HOME will eventually make transfer possible for applicable Pokémon. While I'll concede that it is highly likely that Arceus will not be as freely compatible, due to how stats have been presented in pre-release footage, the fact remains we do not know for certain how inter-game communication will proceed from here on out.

As for the template, between SwSh and BDSP, the only difference appears to be in the origin mark. I do not see the need for an entirely different template when the problem can be solved with a parameter. - Chosen (Talk) 18:48, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

I was also talking about the in-game template, specifically here swsh is a fundamentally different entity from BDSP. As far as HOME compatibility goes, we don't know to what extent it will be implemented, HOME compatibility could also mean that you will be able to store Pokemon in a home box, but that doesn't mean that much in terms of transferability (or maybe its only 1 way)... Either way every time a Pokemon is moved from SWSH to BDSP or vice versa, the Pkm file needs to be reformatted from pk8 to pb8 formats this is the fundamental reason why BDSP isn't compatible with SWSH. as far as Arceus, obviously we will know more once the game is actually out and I can test it properly, but at present its not just stats, we know from screenshots and other information that abilities aren't present (as in LGPE, they will probably be in Pokemon data, are invisible to the player and have no effect in-game, held items aren't a thing, ribbons aren't a thing (probably Pokémon data will allow for it), but LGPE also allowed for ribbons in the data and those events never gave one to any of the LGPE event Pokemon. I only made the BDSP template because I had made the separate arceus one and it seemed appropriate, but other than different origin marks and no dynamaxing, I agree there isn't much different about Pokemon in these games on a surface level.

If you ask me, I feel like the event page should be split by origin marking anyway because with how different Pokemon are formatted between games (and with so many games releasing) and how different the Pokémon pool itself is without the national dex. This could get messy, but I didn't want to do it by myself, that's why I just wrote it as a suggestion on the talk page. 4iamking (talk) 19:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)