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"No Pokémon in the anime had ever used a move they can't learn in the games." - Well, [[Anime move errors|this entire page]] exists as a counterargument. Even as of XY series. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
"No Pokémon in the anime had ever used a move they can't learn in the games." - Well, [[Anime move errors|this entire page]] exists as a counterargument. Even as of XY series. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
:That was a little joke passive aggressively directed at the user who denies the move is Aqua Jet :P [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 17:32, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
==Hi==
Hi there! I just wanted to talk to you about the edit you made [[Jessie's Wobbuffet|here]] and your reasoning. You could follow your own advice and check [[Jessie's Seviper]] and [[Jessie's Dustox]] as well as all of {{cat|May's Pokémon}}. I had explained in my edit summary that we do not divide history section in arcs. As you can see in pages of {{series|Best Wishes}} Pokémon characters, their history sections are divided in [[Unova]] and [[Decolore Islands]] rather than in ''Best Wishes!'', ''Season 2'', ''Episode N'', and ''Decolora Adventure!''. The same is true now for the {{series|XY}}, which has a new arc called ''XY&Z'' but we do not separate the history section because of that. So instead of referring to a few pages with the very error I was trying to correct, you should look at the majority of Pokémon character pages and see if the division per anime arc is being used. It's not. And being consistent with an error is not a good thing. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 14:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
:You're right, I was too hasty when reverting your edit. I'm sorry for that. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 15:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
== Ninjas/moving ==
Page moves (and certain other tasks) are usually decided by the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. Please refrain from moving a page without discussion. Especially, if you start a discussion with a staff member about something they disagreed with you on (such as [[User talk:Carmenstar97#Ninja|your comment]] to Carmenstar97), the ''least'' you can do is wait for a response. Also, just because you can't move a page, please do not create a new page where you wanted it instead. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:21, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
:This isn't a case of moving something like ''Ash's friends'' to ''Ash's companions'', the pages title is a mistake, incorrect, wrong. Not a matter of opinion but a gramtical mistake. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 15:30, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
::You may think so. But in particular when a staff member has contradicted you, it is not proper to try to force your view. You started a conversation. That much was right. But you should have seen that conversation through instead of immediately continuing to act on your belief. If you're right, then it'll just be a bit of a delay before you can continue. That little delay will hardly hurt. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:36, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
==Sawyer's Aegislash==
Hey, there. I was wondering if we can make a page for Sawyer's Aegislash. I mean it has been making major appearances lately and I think it deserves to have its own page like Trip's Conkeldurr.  [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 22:13, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
:Until Aegislash has had a major role outside of battle, it has no chance of being considered for its own article. I'm not sure exactly why Conkeldurr has one... [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 22:21, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
==About your discussion comment in SM029==
Hi there. In response to your comment on SM029's discussion page as much as I agree with you about Morelull using Spore and Strength Sap, unfortunately since the attack was never specified or stated along with Morelull being able to learn Sleep Powder, Absorb and Mega Drain, the attack isn't documented as to avoid speculation and debate.
The fact that Morelull knows such attacks would cause lots of debate over whether the attack was the attack and it's not documented as to avoid debate on whether "spore" was truly spore of if it was actually sleep powder which is one of the reasons of a lack of documentation due to large debates over little facts.
Also there is the possibility that those attacks mentioned above have changed animation in the SM series so it would be wise to either not document it as to avoid speculation due to Bulbapedia not accepting assumptions as facts or wait for another episode that showcases the move if it ever happens.
Hope this helps.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 11:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
== Code of conduct ==
[[Special:Diff/2661776|This sort]] of conduct is not in the least acceptable, personally attacking another user/deprecating their contributions and pointedly being rude. Please familiarize yourself with our {{bp|code of conduct}} and conduct yourself accordingly.
[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:12, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
:Once again, your comment [[Special:Diff/2669253|here]] is little more than a personal attack. And once again, it is against Playerking95. You can disagree about the general stance on whether moves are identifiable, but you certainly don't have to attack anyone for that; you are expected to remain civil and refrain from such attacks. If this happens again, you can expect repercussions.
:If you truly have problems with another user, please bring it to a {{bp|staff}} member rather than venting on that user's talk page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:55, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
==Anime moves==
Just so that there's a clear record that you've been informed of this, I'm going to reiterate here what I've said to a handful of other users.
As a matter of current policy, moves that are used in the anime must be explicitly identified in order to be attributed on Bulbapedia. The only exceptions are, ''tentatively'', the moves listed [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations|here]]. If you think a move is unique but it's not listed there, please ''bring it up''; do not attempt to attribute it assuming you're right. (The whole point is to move away from assumptions. If you ''are'' right, it'll be acknowledge quickly enough.)
If there are arguments, ''please'' refrain from carrying them out in edit wars. Someone has to be the bigger person sooner or later; if you're not making the first reversion, I'd strongly suggest that starting a discussion is wiser than reverting again.
[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:55, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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Electroweb

Hi. I'd say I'd disagree on the Electroweb\Spiderweb thing. Just remember, this is the anime, where moves can have multiple uses and methods (like Roggenrola's Sandstorm for instance). I believe it is electroweb, but they were just using it defensively; they didn't want to hurt Ash and Bianca, but they were also didn't want them following them. And they normally don't electrically charge their threads; this was seen when they use String Shot to capture Pikachu and Minccino. Littlmiget123 (talk) 19:29, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

The Joltik that appeaered in todays episode used Electroweb, the same animation as the Galvantula from BW017. I also believe Spider web was mentioned in the original episode Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 19:48, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
But like I said above, there can be other ways of using the attack. As I brought up above, Clay's Krokorok used an entirely different method of Sandstorm than Ash's Roggenrola, who used it in the exact same battle. Axew is also known to use two different methods of Dragon Rage: one with an energy beam, and one that resembles a Dragon. I looked over the episode pictures for the episode, and if it was SpiderWeb, they would have shot out one at a time, but they used the electric attack and the web attack at the same exact time. In the episode that you mention, Joltik felt threatened by Oshawott and Piplup, so it used it as an offensive attack, whereas the Galvantula by Chargestone Cave were using it defensly. The Galvantula in BW017's nest was attacked by Scraggy, so it thought it was being attacked and used Electroweb as an offensive attack. Littlmiget123 (talk) 20:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
You may be right, but assuming Electroweb is diffrent when used deffenivly is just as speculative. I actually remember reverting Kenji-girl about this when the episode first aired (Boy, was I brave) but she never protested. I soppose you could ask her, both explinations seem just as likely to meDiamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 20:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Hahaha, I admire your bravery. X) And perhaps the defensive thing is speculation, but I'm just thinking of a logical explaination. X) Then will it be acceptable to revert your edits? Littlmiget123 (talk) 21:00, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Well maybe ask Kenji what she thinks or bring it up on one of the moves talk pagesDiamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

sections

It turns out that the sections were fine as they were even after adding the manga section for them as seen here. Probably the Moves used section below the in the manga one should have two equal signs instead of three. PattyMan 12:20, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean, as with Infernapes manga adaptation appearance, the sections within 'In the manga' are minored but as it is an anime character all sections, History, Personality, Moves used are major. Where as a pokemon like Whitney's Milatank who actually has a counterpart in the manga and game, rather than somthing based of the anime character, will have In the anime, In the manga, In the games with minor sections inside Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 14:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Sorry this is a late notice. What I mean is that the headings were changed for organizational skills. However, I am going to go for the way you handled it, on how the anime Pokémon's manga section is minor (comment seen above) On a side note, I have done personality and characteristics for many of the articles that needed them and still am working on a few. PattyMan 05:01, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Good job with that I've noticed, I keep telling myself I'm gonna do them but I never get round to it Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 00:32, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Anime move errors

On the Anime move errors page, I moved Officer Jenny's Swanna using Blizzard to the Japanese version only section back in late-November as the name wasn't mentioned in the dub (since there was a policy regarding moves being confirmed in order for them to be listed). Since you saw/know that it was Blizzard, very well then. PattyMan 20:29, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Videos

While I understand that you're trying to help, please, stop linking to any Pokemon anime episode that has been illegally uploaded to an unofficial place. It's not allowed. Ataro (talk) 02:11, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see, sorry. However Pikachu's Ice adventure does confirm Turtwig, Chimchar, Pachirisu and Sudowoodo as male. While it confirms Swinub as a girl. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 02:14, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Could you tell when and how they were revealed?--Den Zen 11:36, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I could be wrong, but it seems to say that the boys get stuck with Pikachu while the girls are trapped with Piplup Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 13:34, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I can't find the point where it is said. Does the narrator confirm their genders at some point or did you just assume the genders based on the groups?--Den Zen 14:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
If you can't find anything, then there probaly unconfirmed. I thought the narrator said so Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 14:34, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Widespread edits

When you're making edits that affect a large number of pages, like the rearrangement of section headers on the anime Pokémon articles, please please please be extremely careful to get everything right the first time. I've had to correct about half a dozen minor mistakes already and that's just of the few pages that are on my watchlist. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

I've sorted out somthing that would have remained messy and inconsistent had I not. I've been doing for two and a half hours, I would appreciate it if you didn't scrutinise me for a couple mistakes over a hundred edits, I'm aware I've made the mistakes having seen you start to correct them and I have already had the sense to be more careful without you having to tell me.Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 17:24, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Ash Buizel's Trivia

Whoops sorry 05308. I had no idea about that because I'm a new user here and I have not gotten myself familiar with the rules yet.Thelucarioguy (talk) 15:55, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

No need to apologise :) Just remember trivia is really pedantic on here. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 17:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Userspace pages

Userspace pages, including those eventually destined for the mainspace, really aren't supposed to have mainspace categories on them. These categories are reserved exclusively for mainspace content pages, and they aren't supposed to be used elsewhere. Just keep this in mind, please. MaverickNate 01:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Removals?

I corrected the moveset for Drago's Mamoswine, why did u revert it to a bad one, did you even watched the episode?--Omojuzeforever (talk) 21:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC) I stated thusly in my edit summery: "As we've seen with Dawn's Mamoswine, Ice fang has the tusks freeze, do you have proof? Translations?" However, seen as you have provided translations, you were just in reverting me. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 21:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

It's not the first time we have a move change appearance, u can't just blindly guess.. It's a wikia not a fanpage--Omojuzeforever (talk) 21:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and I seen some uploaded pictures, can you change their names to correct ones cuz they say Peck & Thrash..?--Omojuzeforever (talk) 21:09, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I'll have you know, they were not at all wild guesses, the tusk move strongly resembled Peck and the tackling move did not resemble Take Down, I took an educated guess to name it Thrash. It is fairly rare to see a change in move animation within the same series, let alone concerning two Pokémon of the same species. I'll tell you that I am well aware of the styles and guidelines implemented into Wiki's thank you very much, though I myself am not able to change file names in the archives. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 21:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Satoshi's Luchabull

Not notable? Why would this not be notable? It's significant. --リックEO (オープン for discussion) 22:15, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

This wasn't anything consequential for Hawlucha, it could have been any of Ash's Pokemon Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 22:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Then in that case, this wouldn't be notable either. It could've been any of Clemont's Pokémon. What about this one? It could've been any of Ash's Pokémon. No one undid both of those edits. --リックEO (オープン for discussion) 00:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Rival battles are notable, encounters with Team Rocket are not Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 11:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Shauna's Ivysaur

You can move Shauna's Bulbasaur to Ivysaur now.--PokéCool21 (Talk) 19:44, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Pangoro Slash

I wanted to say thank you for that strong and compelling argument you gave about the ambiguity of moves. If this place wasen't run by stubborn fools something would be getting done.--Pikablu (talk) 00:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

oh I know, the admins on here only argue the same basic principle, which is "I am an admin, I am right, you are not an admin, you are not right". I'm not afraid to say on here that Force Fire in particular is a pedantic old fool. This apparent "we don't assume" rule, that seems to have only applied since just before the Pangoro episode, then suddenly abandoned straight after, then picked up again just before the episode with the Eeveelution fantasy is somhow binding. If all that I brought up yesturdat doesn't sway the argument, nothing will and as annoying as it is, there is nothing we can do about it Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 10:46, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey, I know you're a big fan of mine and all...

... but try to keep those things to yourself eh? Some innocent new user might find that insulting, and it could lead to severe consequences. So if you don't like the way the staff handle things, either make it subtle or keep it to yourself. Thanks.--ForceFire 04:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

On your page

"No Pokémon in the anime had ever used a move they can't learn in the games." - Well, this entire page exists as a counterargument. Even as of XY series. Eridanus (talk) 17:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

That was a little joke passive aggressively directed at the user who denies the move is Aqua Jet :P Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 17:32, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi

Hi there! I just wanted to talk to you about the edit you made here and your reasoning. You could follow your own advice and check Jessie's Seviper and Jessie's Dustox as well as all of May's Pokémon. I had explained in my edit summary that we do not divide history section in arcs. As you can see in pages of Best Wishes series Pokémon characters, their history sections are divided in Unova and Decolore Islands rather than in Best Wishes!, Season 2, Episode N, and Decolora Adventure!. The same is true now for the XY series, which has a new arc called XY&Z but we do not separate the history section because of that. So instead of referring to a few pages with the very error I was trying to correct, you should look at the majority of Pokémon character pages and see if the division per anime arc is being used. It's not. And being consistent with an error is not a good thing. --Mikuri 14:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

You're right, I was too hasty when reverting your edit. I'm sorry for that. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Ninjas/moving

Page moves (and certain other tasks) are usually decided by the Editorial Board. Please refrain from moving a page without discussion. Especially, if you start a discussion with a staff member about something they disagreed with you on (such as your comment to Carmenstar97), the least you can do is wait for a response. Also, just because you can't move a page, please do not create a new page where you wanted it instead. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:21, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

This isn't a case of moving something like Ash's friends to Ash's companions, the pages title is a mistake, incorrect, wrong. Not a matter of opinion but a gramtical mistake. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:30, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
You may think so. But in particular when a staff member has contradicted you, it is not proper to try to force your view. You started a conversation. That much was right. But you should have seen that conversation through instead of immediately continuing to act on your belief. If you're right, then it'll just be a bit of a delay before you can continue. That little delay will hardly hurt. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:36, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


Sawyer's Aegislash

Hey, there. I was wondering if we can make a page for Sawyer's Aegislash. I mean it has been making major appearances lately and I think it deserves to have its own page like Trip's Conkeldurr. Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 22:13, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Until Aegislash has had a major role outside of battle, it has no chance of being considered for its own article. I'm not sure exactly why Conkeldurr has one... Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 22:21, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

About your discussion comment in SM029

Hi there. In response to your comment on SM029's discussion page as much as I agree with you about Morelull using Spore and Strength Sap, unfortunately since the attack was never specified or stated along with Morelull being able to learn Sleep Powder, Absorb and Mega Drain, the attack isn't documented as to avoid speculation and debate. The fact that Morelull knows such attacks would cause lots of debate over whether the attack was the attack and it's not documented as to avoid debate on whether "spore" was truly spore of if it was actually sleep powder which is one of the reasons of a lack of documentation due to large debates over little facts. Also there is the possibility that those attacks mentioned above have changed animation in the SM series so it would be wise to either not document it as to avoid speculation due to Bulbapedia not accepting assumptions as facts or wait for another episode that showcases the move if it ever happens. Hope this helps.Nikuriku (talk) 11:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Code of conduct

This sort of conduct is not in the least acceptable, personally attacking another user/deprecating their contributions and pointedly being rude. Please familiarize yourself with our code of conduct and conduct yourself accordingly.

Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:12, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Once again, your comment here is little more than a personal attack. And once again, it is against Playerking95. You can disagree about the general stance on whether moves are identifiable, but you certainly don't have to attack anyone for that; you are expected to remain civil and refrain from such attacks. If this happens again, you can expect repercussions.
If you truly have problems with another user, please bring it to a staff member rather than venting on that user's talk page. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:55, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Anime moves

Just so that there's a clear record that you've been informed of this, I'm going to reiterate here what I've said to a handful of other users.

As a matter of current policy, moves that are used in the anime must be explicitly identified in order to be attributed on Bulbapedia. The only exceptions are, tentatively, the moves listed here. If you think a move is unique but it's not listed there, please bring it up; do not attempt to attribute it assuming you're right. (The whole point is to move away from assumptions. If you are right, it'll be acknowledge quickly enough.)

If there are arguments, please refrain from carrying them out in edit wars. Someone has to be the bigger person sooner or later; if you're not making the first reversion, I'd strongly suggest that starting a discussion is wiser than reverting again.

Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:55, 20 July 2017 (UTC)