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== Total damage? ==
== Total damage? ==


So base power is 50, doubled to 100, STAB + 25?, and weather bonus for another 25?  Total of 150, correct? <small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|FromCrimsonToWool}} ([[User talk:FromCrimsonToWool|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FromCrimsonToWool|contribs]]) ''</small>
So base power is 50, doubled to 100, STAB + 25?, and weather bonus for another 25?  Total of 150, correct?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 06:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC) <small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|FromCrimsonToWool}} ([[User talk:FromCrimsonToWool|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FromCrimsonToWool|contribs]]) ''</small>
:Be specific...{{p|Castform}} right? That should be right...depends on the order though...could be 187/188... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 00:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Be specific...{{p|Castform}} right? That should be right...depends on the order though...could be 187/188... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 00:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


::Yes, Castform.  My bad.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, Castform.  My bad.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The question is really whether STAB and weather effects are a mulitpliers (x1.5) or additions (power + power x 0.5). If they are both a multiplier, then it will be 50x2x1.5x1.5=225, whereas if they are both addition then it could be as low as 150, as high as 225, or somewhere in between. This is of course assuming STAB and a weather condition which boosts move power. [[User:Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 04:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The question is really whether STAB and weather effects are a mulitpliers (x1.5) or additions (power + power x 0.5). If they are both a multiplier, then it will be 50x2x1.5x1.5=225, whereas if they are both addition then it could be as low as 150, as high as 225, or somewhere in between. This is of course assuming STAB and a weather condition which boosts move power. [[User:Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 04:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I would lean more towards the lower, 150 figure.  It would seem to me that handing you a pokémon that could output 225 at level 30, would be a bit of a game ruin-er.  Not to mention the ability to control multiple different major elements.
I would lean more towards the lower, 150 figure.  It would seem to me that handing you a pokémon that could output 225 at level 30, would be a bit of a game ruin-er.  Not to mention the ability to control multiple different major elements.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 06:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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Fog?

What's it do there? If no one answers, I'll soon have a Roserade, so I could check... TTEchidna 05:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it just doubles the power of Weather Ball, keeping it a normal move. I used it on a Kecleon in the fog, and it didn't change type (either normal or typeless). ---- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 13:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Water?!

According to the top of the move page and the in-game description, Weather Ball is a Normal type attack. But it is classed Water type in the column on the right, and on Castform/Roserade pages. Is there something I'm not getting? It also states that the power is 100. Technically, the base power is 50. The boosted power is simply an added effect with specific conditions, much like Revenge or Pursuit. As I'm a total Wiki newbie, I'll let someone else edit the pages.... :-P Dargad 01:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

It changes during times, so when you refresh the page, it becomes a different type.--FF(editstalk) 02:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually, this one changes depending on the season. Come back in a few months! — THE TROM — 04:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

STAB

When Castform changes type because of the weather, does this mean that Weather Ball will have STAB? Ggled 21:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep. The two will always be the same time, and hence have STAB. — THE TROM — 22:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Wrong. Sandstorm. ht14 22:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Also, Roserade never gains STAB from Weather Ball. Unfortunately, no Grass/Poison type weather conditions. xD Lucadan (Talk) 00:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Total damage?

So base power is 50, doubled to 100, STAB + 25?, and weather bonus for another 25? Total of 150, correct?--FromCrimsonToWool 06:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC) - unsigned comment from FromCrimsonToWool (talkcontribs)

Be specific...Castform right? That should be right...depends on the order though...could be 187/188... ht14 00:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Castform. My bad.--FromCrimsonToWool 03:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
The question is really whether STAB and weather effects are a mulitpliers (x1.5) or additions (power + power x 0.5). If they are both a multiplier, then it will be 50x2x1.5x1.5=225, whereas if they are both addition then it could be as low as 150, as high as 225, or somewhere in between. This is of course assuming STAB and a weather condition which boosts move power. User:Werdnae (talk) 04:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I would lean more towards the lower, 150 figure. It would seem to me that handing you a pokémon that could output 225 at level 30, would be a bit of a game ruin-er. Not to mention the ability to control multiple different major elements.--FromCrimsonToWool 06:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)