Talk:Umbreon (Pokémon)

Evolve Eevee?

The article writes that you can get an Umbreon in FR/LG by evolving an Eevee. Where does one get the moon shard? How can one evolve an Eevee in FR/LG without it because I'm not sure there is one in the game. Harvestdancer 21:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Moon Shard? Only in XD: Gale of Darkness, I'm afraid.

I'm afraid you can't get an Umbreon in FireRed/LeafGreen without trading it over to Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald and evolving it there.

Espeon works pretty much the same way, only involving the opposite timeframes and the Sun Shard instead of the Moon Shard. --Shiningpikablu252 21:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

What would happen if you chose the Moon Shard, then waited until you could trade, had a Pokémon hold the Moon Shard, and traded it to FRLGE? --Shiny Noctowl 21:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

The Moon Shard is a key item. It can't be held. --Shiningpikablu252 00:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't the page say "trade" instead of "evolve" then for FR/LG? Harvestdancer 17:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Not really. You can get Eevee, even if you can't evolve it within FRLG. TTEchidna 02:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I meant for Umbreon (and Espeon) shouldn't FR/LG say "trade"? Harvestdancer 03:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, you can get the Eevee just fine... You may have to trade to evolve it, but does it say that for a Pokémon like Rhyhorn or Graveler? TTEchidna 03:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Argh no! Graveler, for example, it says can be acquired by evolving a geodude or catching a graveler, but Golem can only be acquired through trade. It says so in the Golem article.

According to the above discusison, the only way to get an Umbreon is through trade. You can't evolve it. You need to evolve it at night, which doesn't happen in FR/LG, or with a moon shard, which you can't get at all in FR/LG and can't trade over as a held item because it's a key item. Therefore you cannot, when playing FR/LG, evolve an Eevee into an Umbreon.

Since you can't evolve an Eevee into an Umbreon in FR/LG, but can get an Umbreon through trade, shouldn't the article say you can get it through trade instead of evolution? Harvestdancer 15:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

All of the trade-evo ones I checked say "evolve (prevo)". The method, of course, is stated in the evo box. The point is that you can get Espeon/Umbreon by evolving the Eevee you get in FRLG, no matter that you have to trade it to another game to get the job done. It's like Machamp or Scizor. You can get the Machoke and Scyther in FRLG, but they don't evolve unless they get traded to another game, then traded back. Sure, it's a tiny bit more complicated with Eevee, but it's still the same concept. The trivia section, of course, should have that you can't evolve it because of no day/night function in FRLG, but that's one of the games you can actually get an Eevee in. TTEchidna 11:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

So do you just level up eevees with max happiness during the tides on emerald? If so, which would eveolve on high tide?--File:Ani260MS.gifAceFile:Ani384MS.gif 17:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Psychic mention?

Is it worth mentioning specifically how it can learn psychic in the trivia section? A pure dark pokemon being able to learn psychic would seem fairly note-worthy. Prophaniti 15:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Honchkrow Is also a Dark type that can learn Psychic. To be honest, I don't really think it belongs in the Article. Dean

Sounds notable enough for me.Honchrow is not pure DarkGood Day;DCM

...I didn't know being a flying time allows Honchkrow to learn Psychic attacks...PDL 14:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any notability in it. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 14:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Darkrai, Sableye and it's rip-off Spiritomb, Honchkrow are the other dark types capable of learning Psychic. 5/23 dark types is a fair few. I'd not call it notable enough. Gywall^(Talk) 14:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Added note: Damn you fiddler, I had to find this again! Gywall^(Talk) 14:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)