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In my version of Y I have a tyranitar which seems to have the wrong ability as it has Unnerve as its main ability despite this page saying its hidden ability should be unnerve and its main sand stream (which mine doesn't have) Is this a change in Gen VI and if so does the page need editing? [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 17:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
In my version of Y I have a tyranitar which seems to have the wrong ability as it has Unnerve as its main ability despite this page saying its hidden ability should be unnerve and its main sand stream (which mine doesn't have) Is this a change in Gen VI and if so does the page need editing? [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 17:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:How can you tell that Unnerve is its main Ability??--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::You just caught one with its Hidden Ability. Pokémon in Horde Encounters and the Friend Safari have a chance of having their Hidden Abilities. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
a) It doesn't have sand stream and b) unnerve is the actual ability displayed on its summary [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 19:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:A Hidden Ability is just an ability that you need to get in a special way (for example Dream World/Hidden Grottos in Generation V and Friend Safari and Horde Encounters in Gen VI).  They are not actually hidden on each particular Pokémon.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:25, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
I thought if a pokémon had its hidden ability it had two abilities. Am I wrong? [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 19:29, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:You don't seem to know how the [[Ability]] system works. A Pokémon with its Hidden Ability can never use its normal Ability/ies and vice versa.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 19:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
I apologise profusely! I haven't had any of the Gen V games so I skipped over the hidden abilities when they were first introduced. I thought the hidden ability was extra if obtained and the pokémon would have two. Sorry for any confusion guys :/ [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 19:33, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
== Sp.Def Calculation ==
I thought I had figured out a awesome use for Assault Vest with Tyranitar, but it seems the guys over at smogon beat me to it.
Anyways, I know a Tyanitar with fully invested Sp.Def and a Sp.Def increasing nature gives it a Sp.Def of 328. The vest gives Tyranitar 50% more Sp.Def which would be 492. Even without the vest, its ability to summon a sandstorm, and then sandstorm's effect of increasing the Sp.Def of Rock type Pokémon by 50% by itself. With a combination of both, right out of the starting gate Tyranitar gets 100% more Sp.Def
The thing is, everywhere I look I see 738 as the magical number, but shouldn't it be 656? 328 + 100% (or 328 x 1.5) should = 656 the only way you can get 738 is if you take 328 x 1.5 which = 492, and then you timed 492 by 1.5 which would = 738.
I'm not the best at math, but which is it? 656 or 738? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I'm a math major and it's 738 (328 × 1.5 × 1.5). It's very simple; AV multiplies it by 1.5 and then sandstorm multiplies it by 1.5. All stat boost combinations, such as Huge Power + Choice Band and Unburden + Agility, are calculated this way.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 08:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
::In other words, Yamitora, both boosts don't give 50% of the original. The second boost gives 50% of the already-boosted stat. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Ok I see now, thank you for clearing that up. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
== Seven Starting Moves ==
As far as I know, Pokemon can only learn 4 moves at a time. I don't own any of the games, so I cannot determine what ttar actually starts with. Anyone mind changing this?  [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] ([[User talk:Smurfton|talk]]) 21:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
:If a Pokémon has more than 4 starting moves, then you'll have to use a heart scale(or tiny mushroom in LG/FR) to learn that move.  What it really means is that while the Pokémon CAN learn the move, it won't have the move without outside intervention on the trainers part.  Does that help clear things up for you? ([[User:Arcalargo|Arcalargo]] ([[User talk:Arcalargo|talk]]) 12:56, 7 December 2014 (UTC))
::Yes.[[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] ([[User talk:Smurfton|talk]]) 17:19, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
== Name origin ==
I know that Larvitar comes from larva, Pupitar comes from Pupa and Tyranitar comes from Tyrannosaurus, but what does the "tar" mean?
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 23:35, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Possibly tarasque. Look it up.
[[User:MMMMMMMMMMMMM|MMMMMMMMMMMMM]] ([[User talk:MMMMMMMMMMMMM|talk]]) 13:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
==Event Moves==
I feel that not only this page, but other pages should be edited to have learnsets on moves only learned through events. Tyranitar learns Seismic Toss from a past event, but I don't know how to create learnsets when editing.
[[User: Bulldogs1234869|Bulldogs1234869]] 9:45, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
:We do do that when there's an appropriate event during the generation. Previous generations' lists are linked in every learnset table. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 16:09, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

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Bias

I edited this page because it appeared biased. Tyranitar are not evil Pokémon. As far as I know, the only truly evil Pokémon is Spiritomb. - unsigned comment from Ettina (talkcontribs)

3D Shiny?

Kind of old but should it be noted that in both Pokemon Stadium games that Tyranitar's shiny status in them is pink? ShinyGlaceon 19:45, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Physiology Edit

I edited the physiology to change "roof and bottom of the mouth" to "upper and lower jaws" because it sounded rather awkward before.--Phantomjunkie 06:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Special Abilities

Under the description, it says, "Like other Dragon Pokemon..." Is this imply it is dragon-like or Dragon-type? If it is the latter, should it be changed? Sparky 14:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Tyranitar isn't a Dragon-type. Note that it actually says "Like some Dragon Pokémon"; i.e. that Tyranitar is being compared to Dragons. —darklordtrom 20:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread it. Sparky 13:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Uh.......

I think someone mentioned this on Metagross's talk page but doesn't Tyranitar, along with Dragonite, have a rare chance of appearing in the wild in B/W by shaking grass spots? Serebii says Route 15 but can anyone else confirm this? Shiramu Kuromu 00:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Black and White Locations

I have Pokemon White version and I caught a Tyranitar at lvl 50 in Route 15, where all those hiker people are and you have to use strength on the boulders. It's hard to find though, it's rare. There are also wild Pupitars too, they're slightly rare.

Nyororas 07:17, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

It's there already. --ForceFire 03:50, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

What looks like a pupitar is on tyrantar's chest.

Should we include this in physiology? Nightgrey 03:51, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

No.--ForceFire 03:54, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Highest Base stat Total

Shouldn't it be noted that he has the highest base stat total of all Rock type, Despite that he is not a legendary Pokmeon Also the same for Dark types along with Hydreigon. --$%$HYDRA3DRAGON$%$ (talk) 06:26, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Tyranitar's armor

Have any of you guys notice that Tyranitar's upper armor is not connected to the lower armor.Gelato Gelato (talk) 13:00, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

Do you have a point? Nepse (talk) 13:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Origin specificity?

Shouldn't it be mentioned more specifically that Tyranitar is also based off a Tyrannosaurus like Godzilla was? Or is that a bit much? Just wondering since the way it was written seems fine, but someone said in an edit about the whole T-rex thing. I don't know. :/ ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 19:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Isn't the reference to Godzilla not supposed to be there unless explicitly stated? Volcarona, Hydreigon, and the Nidos have the're pop culture character referennces removed. Jetison (talk) 19:40, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Ability Gen VI

In my version of Y I have a tyranitar which seems to have the wrong ability as it has Unnerve as its main ability despite this page saying its hidden ability should be unnerve and its main sand stream (which mine doesn't have) Is this a change in Gen VI and if so does the page need editing? Cjmorgs (talk) 17:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

How can you tell that Unnerve is its main Ability??--Den Zen 17:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
You just caught one with its Hidden Ability. Pokémon in Horde Encounters and the Friend Safari have a chance of having their Hidden Abilities. Glik (talk) 17:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

a) It doesn't have sand stream and b) unnerve is the actual ability displayed on its summary Cjmorgs (talk) 19:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

A Hidden Ability is just an ability that you need to get in a special way (for example Dream World/Hidden Grottos in Generation V and Friend Safari and Horde Encounters in Gen VI). They are not actually hidden on each particular Pokémon. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 19:25, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I thought if a pokémon had its hidden ability it had two abilities. Am I wrong? Cjmorgs (talk) 19:29, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

You don't seem to know how the Ability system works. A Pokémon with its Hidden Ability can never use its normal Ability/ies and vice versa.--Den Zen 19:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I apologise profusely! I haven't had any of the Gen V games so I skipped over the hidden abilities when they were first introduced. I thought the hidden ability was extra if obtained and the pokémon would have two. Sorry for any confusion guys :/ Cjmorgs (talk) 19:33, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Sp.Def Calculation

I thought I had figured out a awesome use for Assault Vest with Tyranitar, but it seems the guys over at smogon beat me to it.

Anyways, I know a Tyanitar with fully invested Sp.Def and a Sp.Def increasing nature gives it a Sp.Def of 328. The vest gives Tyranitar 50% more Sp.Def which would be 492. Even without the vest, its ability to summon a sandstorm, and then sandstorm's effect of increasing the Sp.Def of Rock type Pokémon by 50% by itself. With a combination of both, right out of the starting gate Tyranitar gets 100% more Sp.Def

The thing is, everywhere I look I see 738 as the magical number, but shouldn't it be 656? 328 + 100% (or 328 x 1.5) should = 656 the only way you can get 738 is if you take 328 x 1.5 which = 492, and then you timed 492 by 1.5 which would = 738.

I'm not the best at math, but which is it? 656 or 738? Yamitora1 (talk) 08:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, I'm a math major and it's 738 (328 × 1.5 × 1.5). It's very simple; AV multiplies it by 1.5 and then sandstorm multiplies it by 1.5. All stat boost combinations, such as Huge Power + Choice Band and Unburden + Agility, are calculated this way.--Den Zen 08:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
In other words, Yamitora, both boosts don't give 50% of the original. The second boost gives 50% of the already-boosted stat. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Ok I see now, thank you for clearing that up. Yamitora1 (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Seven Starting Moves

As far as I know, Pokemon can only learn 4 moves at a time. I don't own any of the games, so I cannot determine what ttar actually starts with. Anyone mind changing this? Smurfton (talk) 21:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

If a Pokémon has more than 4 starting moves, then you'll have to use a heart scale(or tiny mushroom in LG/FR) to learn that move. What it really means is that while the Pokémon CAN learn the move, it won't have the move without outside intervention on the trainers part. Does that help clear things up for you? (Arcalargo (talk) 12:56, 7 December 2014 (UTC))
Yes.Smurfton (talk) 17:19, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Name origin

I know that Larvitar comes from larva, Pupitar comes from Pupa and Tyranitar comes from Tyrannosaurus, but what does the "tar" mean? Christian (talk) 23:35, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Possibly tarasque. Look it up. MMMMMMMMMMMMM (talk) 13:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Event Moves

I feel that not only this page, but other pages should be edited to have learnsets on moves only learned through events. Tyranitar learns Seismic Toss from a past event, but I don't know how to create learnsets when editing. Bulldogs1234869 9:45, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

We do do that when there's an appropriate event during the generation. Previous generations' lists are linked in every learnset table. glikglak 16:09, 4 January 2017 (UTC)