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::Yes, there is a house in Sootopolis and there is a stair section blocked off by trees. It's the house to the southeast of the Center. What is its purpose? [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 04:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, there is a house in Sootopolis and there is a stair section blocked off by trees. It's the house to the southeast of the Center. What is its purpose? [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 04:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


:::This is where the e-reader trainers go in the Japanese version. The feature has been dummied out of American Emerald [[User:Kendai|~Kendai]] 05:44, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
== Sootopolis ==
== Sootopolis ==


Does anyone else think this is weird? If you remove the ''polis'' from the end of the word, it gives you the word ''sooto,'' and its homonym is ''pseudo,'' which means ''not real'' or ''not genuine.'' I noticed this when I was 9, and I was trying to figure out the origin of every town name in Hoenn. I was shocked to read this and find that it was from the word ''soot,'' which should have been very obvious. Should this pseudo deal go in the origin section of this article, or not? --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 03:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone else think this is weird? If you remove the ''polis'' from the end of the word, it gives you the word ''sooto,'' and its homonym is ''pseudo,'' which means ''not real'' or ''not genuine.'' I noticed this when I was 9, and I was trying to figure out the origin of every town name in Hoenn. I was shocked to read this and find that it was from the word ''soot,'' which should hav e Vulcain (Vanessa atalanta been very obvious. Should this pseudo deal go in the origin section of this article, or not? --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 03:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:Uh, could you relate the word ''pseudo'' to the characteristics of Sootopolis City? --'''<big>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#B8B8D0">vz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#705898">o8</span></big>]] ''' 03:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::Do you have any ideas? I'm not sure how they relate exactly, but could it go in the trivia section? I just thought it was weird that they're homophones... --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 05:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::I was just looking at the name in other languages... ''Atlantopolis'' in French? That name is based off of Atlantis, and don't the translated names usually correspond somehow? I know it's not pronounced like "soot-oh-polis," but I think there's some connection. --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 06:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:::''Soot'' doesn't go into any foreign language names. The Englinvsh doesn't have to match up to the others, given that English isn't exactly the original. The important thing about translating names is that they make sense to the local audience. Here, it does come from the sunken city ''{{wp|Atlantis}}'', and the common suffix ''-polis''. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 06:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::::But I wasn't talking about ''soot'', I was talking about ''pseudo''! ''Pseudo'', like Atlantis, because it may or may not be real? Okay, I don't think I'm making any sense. ''Pseudo'' means not real. ''{{wp|Atlantis}}'' may or may not have been real, and I'm having trouble believing that the name, Sootopolis City, was based off of the word, ''soot'', and not ''pseudo.'' --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 07:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::::: If you think about it, it does make sense. --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::What ''I'm'' saying?? Thanks. --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 07:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::: Yeah what your saying.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::Wow, that's a relief. [[user:Kevzo8|Kevzo8]] made me feel like I was insane. So does anyone think it should be in the origin or trivia? --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 07:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::::I never meant that you're insane. I just want you to elaborate what your idea is. You didn't mentioned about Atlantis before, anyway. If you felt it, I'm so sorry. --'''[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#B8B8D0">vz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#705898">o8</span>]]''' 08:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::::Don't worry about it. I get paranoid {{tt|very|I'm pretty much paranoid all day, and it doesn't help that I'm overly critical of myself. Seriously, don't worry about it.}} easily. That's the weird part though... I don't know what ''pseudo'' has to do Sootopolis, but when I see that the translation in French is ''Atalanopolis''... It seems like they correspond. --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 20:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Gyrados under level ten? ==
 
I have a level 9 Gyrados, I caught it in sootopolis while I was trying to harvest magikarp for stats. On that note, is there a page for cases of wild evolved pokemon appearing at levels lower than they should be? [[User:Kendai|~Kendai]] 06:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:There is a section on the [[level]] article. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
== what happened to the battle? ==
 
How come no one's put anything in about how this was the most recent place where Groudon and Kyogre fought as wild pokemon? at least in emerald --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|<span style="color:green">"FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2"</span>]] 01:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
:I guess no one's thought of it. Want to have a crack? &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
::Done. --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|<span style="color:navy">☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆</span>]] 02:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== The Music of Sootopolis ==
 
I was intrigued by the trivia:
"The background music used in this city is a remix of a music from Pokémon Pinball."
 
After some research (namely hunting down the Pokemon Pinball Soundtrack) it seems that it's based off the "Name Entry" screen. Unless there's severe objection, I'm adding this to that point.
 
If anyone who's actually played/owns a copy of Pokemon Pinball can help with terminology, that would be great!
[[User:Conductor Alix|Conductor Alix]] 10:22, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 
== Quality Standards ==
 
Just so no-one rushes into things, I'm curious as to why the page earned the [[Manual of Style|Does not meet Quality Standards]] notice. I'm not quite certain where to look.
[[User:Conductor Alix|Conductor Alix]] 07:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
:I know I'm not supposed to open old topics, but the label is still there and no one has come up with a reason.  Shouldn't it be removed in the absence of a reason? [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 22:52, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
::No one came forward with a reason for the label, so I took it off. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 14:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 
==French name==
 
Ok, I'm new here, but I wanted to react on this so I made an account. Your theory is fun to consider, but isn't correct because it's based on injust information. I'm not a native French NOR English speaker, but the information about the French name Atalantopolis is wrong. I thought it rather bizarre to believe the name is derived from Atlantis, and indeed: it turns out to be derived from a butterfly, the Vanessa Atalanta. Which is commonly known in French as "Le Vulcain", which translates as "The Volcano". I'm sorry if I posted this in a wrong manner/section, but I promise: next time I will know more about how to work on here.-- [[User:Montagne|Montagne]] ([[User talk:Montagne|talk]]) 10:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 
Yeah don't worry about it I'm not offended. I wrote that in 2009 so, I apologize for my assertion of an illogical theory; I was 14. Anyways, you're right. The butterfly thing was probably on the Sootopolis page at the time, and I merely overlooked it. My eyes probably went straight to "Can also be derived from atlantis, an ancient island underwater." However, I don't think it should be removed from the page because it's certainly a possibility. But the more I think about it, the more irrelevant it sounds. As for posting, you probably should have posted it under the section I started, titled "Sootopolis," for better organization. I'm not completely sure though. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in the ways of Bulbapedia knows? [[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|<font color="#007FFF">--Charmander</font>]] ''[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|<font color="6495ED">-(talk</font>]] <font color="#6495ED">or</font> [[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|<font color="6495ED">stalk!)</font>]]'' 22:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 
== Formed by a Meteor? ==
 
 
This is a quote from Zinnia in the Delta Episode in ORAS:
 
''"A thousand years after this time, the meteoroids once again fell. A huge meteoroid, far greater than ever before, struck the planet, boring deep into the ocean and leaving behind it a crater larger than any other. The land born of this event later became known as Sootopolis."''
 
The original idea was a volcano erupting to form the area, but does this change how the area was formed canonically? [[User:MegaLatios64|<span style="font-family:times new roman;color:blue">Mega</span>]][[User Talk:MegaLatios64|<span style="font-family:times new roman;color:aquamarine">Lat</span><span style="font-family:times new roman;color:yellowgreen">ios</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MegaLatios64|<span style="font-family:times new roman;color:purple">64</span>]]
 
== Additions to trivia ==
 
Am I allowed to add these bits of trivia?
* In {{game|Emerald}}, the {{p|Seedot}} received from [[In-game trade|Kobe]] at [[Rustboro City]] is exactly 0.1 meters larger than the size requirement for the [[Ether|elixir]].
* In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, before the players show the competitive brothers a large enough Pokémon, the record holders' trainer is named Marco. This is an anagram to {{wp|macro}}, a Greek prefix that means large.
[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 22:35, 11 March 2017

what is this house

Ok in Pokémon emerald there is a house in Sootopolis that has a door blocked off. What is this house, what is with the door, and why isn't it mentioned in the article? I only ask because if it was mentioned i wouldn't have to mark up the talk page with this question. Yami 02:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Which house, give directions from the Pokémon Center... TTEchidna 05:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought that house was in Mossdeep..........--Pokelova 06:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there is a house in Sootopolis and there is a stair section blocked off by trees. It's the house to the southeast of the Center. What is its purpose? ~Toastypk - Loom. 04:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
This is where the e-reader trainers go in the Japanese version. The feature has been dummied out of American Emerald ~Kendai 05:44, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Sootopolis

Does anyone else think this is weird? If you remove the polis from the end of the word, it gives you the word sooto, and its homonym is pseudo, which means not real or not genuine. I noticed this when I was 9, and I was trying to figure out the origin of every town name in Hoenn. I was shocked to read this and find that it was from the word soot, which should hav e Vulcain (Vanessa atalanta been very obvious. Should this pseudo deal go in the origin section of this article, or not? --XxXcharmanderXxX 03:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh, could you relate the word pseudo to the characteristics of Sootopolis City? --Kevzo8 03:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Do you have any ideas? I'm not sure how they relate exactly, but could it go in the trivia section? I just thought it was weird that they're homophones... --XxXcharmanderXxX 05:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I was just looking at the name in other languages... Atlantopolis in French? That name is based off of Atlantis, and don't the translated names usually correspond somehow? I know it's not pronounced like "soot-oh-polis," but I think there's some connection. --XxXcharmanderXxX 06:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Soot doesn't go into any foreign language names. The Englinvsh doesn't have to match up to the others, given that English isn't exactly the original. The important thing about translating names is that they make sense to the local audience. Here, it does come from the sunken city Atlantis, and the common suffix -polis. — THE TROM — 06:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
But I wasn't talking about soot, I was talking about pseudo! Pseudo, like Atlantis, because it may or may not be real? Okay, I don't think I'm making any sense. Pseudo means not real. Atlantis may or may not have been real, and I'm having trouble believing that the name, Sootopolis City, was based off of the word, soot, and not pseudo. --XxXcharmanderXxX 07:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
If you think about it, it does make sense. --Force Fire talk 07:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
What I'm saying?? Thanks. --XxXcharmanderXxX 07:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah what your saying.--Force Fire talk 07:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Wow, that's a relief. Kevzo8 made me feel like I was insane. So does anyone think it should be in the origin or trivia? --XxXcharmanderXxX 07:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I never meant that you're insane. I just want you to elaborate what your idea is. You didn't mentioned about Atlantis before, anyway. If you felt it, I'm so sorry. --Kevzo8 08:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry about it. I get paranoid very easily. That's the weird part though... I don't know what pseudo has to do Sootopolis, but when I see that the translation in French is Atalanopolis... It seems like they correspond. --XxXcharmanderXxX 20:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Gyrados under level ten?

I have a level 9 Gyrados, I caught it in sootopolis while I was trying to harvest magikarp for stats. On that note, is there a page for cases of wild evolved pokemon appearing at levels lower than they should be? ~Kendai 06:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

There is a section on the level article. —darklordtrom 06:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

what happened to the battle?

How come no one's put anything in about how this was the most recent place where Groudon and Kyogre fought as wild pokemon? at least in emerald --"FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2" 01:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess no one's thought of it. Want to have a crack? —darklordtrom 03:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Done. --FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2 02:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

The Music of Sootopolis

I was intrigued by the trivia: "The background music used in this city is a remix of a music from Pokémon Pinball."

After some research (namely hunting down the Pokemon Pinball Soundtrack) it seems that it's based off the "Name Entry" screen. Unless there's severe objection, I'm adding this to that point.

If anyone who's actually played/owns a copy of Pokemon Pinball can help with terminology, that would be great! Conductor Alix 10:22, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Quality Standards

Just so no-one rushes into things, I'm curious as to why the page earned the Does not meet Quality Standards notice. I'm not quite certain where to look. Conductor Alix 07:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I know I'm not supposed to open old topics, but the label is still there and no one has come up with a reason. Shouldn't it be removed in the absence of a reason? Tk3141 22:52, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
No one came forward with a reason for the label, so I took it off. Tk3141 14:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

French name

Ok, I'm new here, but I wanted to react on this so I made an account. Your theory is fun to consider, but isn't correct because it's based on injust information. I'm not a native French NOR English speaker, but the information about the French name Atalantopolis is wrong. I thought it rather bizarre to believe the name is derived from Atlantis, and indeed: it turns out to be derived from a butterfly, the Vanessa Atalanta. Which is commonly known in French as "Le Vulcain", which translates as "The Volcano". I'm sorry if I posted this in a wrong manner/section, but I promise: next time I will know more about how to work on here.-- Montagne (talk) 10:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah don't worry about it I'm not offended. I wrote that in 2009 so, I apologize for my assertion of an illogical theory; I was 14. Anyways, you're right. The butterfly thing was probably on the Sootopolis page at the time, and I merely overlooked it. My eyes probably went straight to "Can also be derived from atlantis, an ancient island underwater." However, I don't think it should be removed from the page because it's certainly a possibility. But the more I think about it, the more irrelevant it sounds. As for posting, you probably should have posted it under the section I started, titled "Sootopolis," for better organization. I'm not completely sure though. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in the ways of Bulbapedia knows? --Charmander -(talk or stalk!) 22:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Formed by a Meteor?

This is a quote from Zinnia in the Delta Episode in ORAS:

"A thousand years after this time, the meteoroids once again fell. A huge meteoroid, far greater than ever before, struck the planet, boring deep into the ocean and leaving behind it a crater larger than any other. The land born of this event later became known as Sootopolis."

The original idea was a volcano erupting to form the area, but does this change how the area was formed canonically? MegaLatios64

Additions to trivia

Am I allowed to add these bits of trivia?

sumwun (talk) 22:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)