Talk:Solgaleo (Pokémon)

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Russian name

Hello could someone add that this line to the in other languages section?

|ru=Солгалео Solgaleo|rumeaning=Transcription of English name

--Raltseye 13:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Generation VII Pokemon tag

This page needs to be included with the other Generation VII Pokemon. Lunala should be tagged as Gen. VII as well.

--C.Wallace (Talk|Contribs) 15:18, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Mythology

It's probably based on the alchemical lion. (http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/06/alchemy-green-lion-devouring-sun.html) In alchemical mysticism the lion devouring the sun is symbolism for extracting gold by melting away impurities with acidic substances. - unsigned comment from Zeta (talkcontribs)

Page protection and awful writing

Why is this page protected? What's the point of having a wiki if people can't edit it? The community is not large enough (as Wikipedia's is) to justify only letting admins edit a page, especially when the admins have such a terrible grasp of language. For example, "It may also involve Galileo, an ancient astronomer who believe the Earth rotated around the sun." Firstly, it was slightly better before this edit (although the other changes in that edit were good). Incorporate is a much better word to use than involve. Secondly, there is an obvious grammatical error in the sentence. And thirdly, Galileo didn't "believe" the Earth rotated around the Sun (which should start with a capital in that context); he knew the Earth rotated around the Sun. He worked it out using science. It's a fact and therefore is not a belief. Can someone please either make these changes or unprotect the page so that others can edit (which is the entire point of a wiki)? McLerristarr (talk) 21:15, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

It is fully protected to prevent users from adding speculation and other unconfirmed information. It is standard procedure when a new Pokémon is released.--ForceFire 03:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Actually, I think the reference to heliocentrism should be removed altogether. After all, it was Copernicus's theory first (and Aristarchus's idea long before that). Galileo just supported and defended it from criticism; he didn't really contribute to it. His relation to the Sun was really just his studies on sunspots. It could, however, be phrased "...Galileo, a famous astronomer who studied the Sun." -- KiANGLO TALK 06:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
There's nothing particularly wrong about the sentence as currently phrased. Tiddlywinks (talk) 07:08, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I hadn't noticed that the sentence referencing Galileo had been changed since yesterday. That's my bad. But yeah, I agree, what's on there now seems totally fine to me as well. -- KiANGLO TALK 07:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Beast that devours the sun

The "beast that devours the sun" line is very, very obviously a reference to alchemy's green lion. Can we add that as a source of inspiration, or is it too based in speculation? Paᗧ•••ck 05:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Considering its steel typing and obvious sun and lion motifs, I'd have to agree honestly. It's pretty heavily obvious that it is based on the alchemy green lion, to at least a certain extent. - 050294 (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, considering AZ/Project Azoth, the fact that the project was codenamed Pokemon Rainbow (rainbows were a guide in alchemical processes) and the symbol on Litten's forehead - its obvious someone on the creative team at GameFreak is drawing inspiration from alchemical mysticism. --Zeta (talk) 14:30, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Sun weak to Fire?

Is it worth mentioning in the trivia section that despite being based off of the sun, Solgaleo has a weakness to Fire-type moves? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Same as Lunala, I'd say no. It's not notable enough in the slightest to be trivia. And technically there's no reason a Sun-based Pokémon can't be weak to fire. If this was an undersea Pokémon that was weak to water, maybe, but definitely not this. -- KiANGLO TALK 02:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
It's not "based off the sun" though, it is based on the metaphorical imagery representing the purification of gold in alchemy, and it is the sun's emissary not the embodiment of the sun itself. Furthermore, the sun itself doesn't work that way. The sun isn't burning, there's no fire in or on the sun. It is a nuclear fusion reaction, not a burning object. While it may be slightly counter-intuitive for Solgaleo to be weak to fire, it is in no way as strange as people keep making out.Me, Hurray! (talk) 23:34, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
(To Kianglo) Since we don't talk about Stunfisk, I would say not even that would count as trivia. --Super goku (talk) 03:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
(To Me, Hurray!) Considering how some programs have the sun(light) boost fire-based techniques, not to mention the actual move called Sunny Day and sunny weather in general, I can easily see why it would come off as strange. --Super goku (talk) 03:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Again, it is "the beast that devours the sun, and its the emissary of the sun, not the literal embodiment of the sun.Animaltamer711:02, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Not really sure if you are referring to me or another user due to the comments being rearranged due to a misunderstanding, but here goes. If it is my comment, then you should disregard the Me, Hurray portion and note that my comment is saying that it can be considered strange to other users. If you are not, then you might need to note the user who you are responding to. --Super goku (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Fire-type is not the only type that has been used to represent the sun in the past. Solar Beam, Solar Blade, and Doom Desire are all attacks that use sunlight that aren't Fire-type. The only Fire-type attack that uses the sun is Weather Ball, so Solgaleo actually resists a majority of attacks that use the sun. Skyarrow (talk) 21:06, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

error on the page

The French name for the radiant sun phase is "Phase Soleil Levant" as announced on the officail french site for sun and moon- unsigned comment from Hades (talkcontribs)

Error

"Along with Lunala, it was initially revealed in May 2016, but officially revealed on June 2, 2016." This sentence in the opening states that Solgaleo was revealed twice. Is that what it is supposed to say, or is it an error? Litwick96 13:35, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Because the first "reveal" was just Solgaleo and Lunala appearing in a promotional video for Sun and Moon, but their names were not given. The boxart for the games was also revealed at that time, which depicted Solgaleo and Lunala clearly. It wasn't until June that they were given names, though, so that's really the "official" reveal. Nevertheless, this absolutely should be reworded, because the way it's written makes no sense. — KiANGLO TALK 03:22, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Level up moves

Is it notable for the trivia that solgaleo, lunala and necrozma learn moves in levels that are prime numbers (except for level 1 but all pokemon have to have moves at level 1)? Alondon17 (talk) 21:47, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so. The exact levels at which they learn moves aren't really that significant. TheDoctorPotter (talk) 22:36, 31 December 2016 (UTC)