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It was Walrein vs. Blissey, so I don't think they could have. It never seemed to work from full health though. Only when the Blissey was partway down. I don't know if that makes a difference.
 
It was Walrein vs. Blissey, so I don't think they could have. It never seemed to work from full health though. Only when the Blissey was partway down. I don't know if that makes a difference.
 
I could try to do it again, so I could tell you more certainly, but definitely a level 65 Walrein used Sheer Cold on a Poisoned, partially weakened lvl 100 Blissey in a Triple Battle in a secret base in Omega Ruby. [[User:Bug Catcher Wade|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Bug Catcher Wade'''</span>]] 05:38, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 
I could try to do it again, so I could tell you more certainly, but definitely a level 65 Walrein used Sheer Cold on a Poisoned, partially weakened lvl 100 Blissey in a Triple Battle in a secret base in Omega Ruby. [[User:Bug Catcher Wade|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Bug Catcher Wade'''</span>]] 05:38, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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"The target faints instantly. It's less likely to hit the target if it's used by Pokémon other than Ice types. " New text as of Sun and Moon. Do we know if the formula actually adds accuracy if an Ice-Type uses it? [[User:TehBazzard|TehBazzard]] ([[User talk:TehBazzard|talk]]) 18:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
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:[https://github.com/Zarel/Pokemon-Showdown/commit/88e03486a8b03cba5a1a5e8a0115dc7080af3707 This] says that it is (level difference + 20)% for non-Ice-type users, while [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7P40MnkhjM this] suggests (level difference + 10)% to me (~95% confidence when compared to the 20% hypothesis). Both agree it's still the "old" formula for Ice-type users, and my testing from a few months ago also suggested that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:24, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

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Accuracy

Just a thought, but someone should try and figure out exactly how much of a level difference it takes to increase the accuracy by a certain percent. Same thing with Fissure, Horn Drill, and Guillotine. Fsilone 00:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes. At first I thought it was somehow weird when my Groudon hit 5 Fissures in a row, as well as my Kyogre with 5 OHKOs in a row... Of course its accuracy changes. According to Smogon, its accuracy is calculated this way: [(U - T) + 30]%, where U = user level and T = target level Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp) 01:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Isn't it obvious? 1U increases it 1%, while 1T decreases it 1%. Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic. 13:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Special

Is this a special attack? --Qim1 00:17, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Um. Yes. —darklordtrom 01:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

level

I just used Sheer cold on a much higher level target in Omega Ruby and it worked. Bug Catcher Wade 22:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

As long as the opponent was within 30 levels of your Pokémon, there is a chance it could hit. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 22:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The user was 65 and the target was 100. Is there a chance the rules have changed in Gen 6? Even if it was within 30 levels, the page needs to be reworded. It sounds like an attack from a lower level pokemon will never land. Bug Catcher Wade 05:44, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Since the only place to find a Lv. 100 is either Battle Maison or Secret Bases... Did either of Pokémon had No Guard? Eridanus (talk) 10:17, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

It was Walrein vs. Blissey, so I don't think they could have. It never seemed to work from full health though. Only when the Blissey was partway down. I don't know if that makes a difference. I could try to do it again, so I could tell you more certainly, but definitely a level 65 Walrein used Sheer Cold on a Poisoned, partially weakened lvl 100 Blissey in a Triple Battle in a secret base in Omega Ruby. Bug Catcher Wade 05:38, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Accuracy 2

"The target faints instantly. It's less likely to hit the target if it's used by Pokémon other than Ice types. " New text as of Sun and Moon. Do we know if the formula actually adds accuracy if an Ice-Type uses it? TehBazzard (talk) 18:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

This says that it is (level difference + 20)% for non-Ice-type users, while this suggests (level difference + 10)% to me (~95% confidence when compared to the 20% hypothesis). Both agree it's still the "old" formula for Ice-type users, and my testing from a few months ago also suggested that. Nescientist (talk) 17:24, 29 June 2017 (UTC)