Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 2

Sheimi's name origin

I dont see how "Sheimi" could have come from the word "shy". It's pronounced "shay-mee" not "shy-mee".

Shaman? Aiddat 18:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, once again..."shay". Shaman's "shah"...but it's more probably than "shy" in any case. I mean, Blastoise is consistently pronounced incorrectly, considering it's "blast" and "tortoise".--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ 00:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I've heard Shaman mispronounced shayman a lot in various forms of media. Mostly as a joke, really. So that may be where it has come from. Sadron 20:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Shaymin Could be partly derived from stamen. Kabutops master 8:20 pm june 17, 2007

shaymin's artwork

I pretty sure the official artwork for Shaymin hasn't been released, but I've seen a page of corocoro featuring Shaymin's TCG. Could we use that instead of the sprite? File:Ani448MS.gifVerity☆LiesFile:Ani395MS.gif 20:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, can you get it for us? TTEchidna 23:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I dunno, I like his sprite XD Sadron 20:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

The shortest Pokémon in existence?

Supposedly this fact is stated in Shaymin's Pokédex entry. Is this in the Japanese games? --Johans 17:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

By "Pokédex entry" we mean the height/weight info (which is present in the Pokédex), not the little blurb about Shaymin.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, there are a few, such as Diglett and Natu that are the same 8" height...--Shiningpikablu252 20:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah... It was already fixed, but my question was about the original text on the article ^_^ --Johans 21:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Seems like 8 inches is the minimum Pokemon height. Though, for all we know they'll come out with a pokemon that lives around the atoms of matter some day, VERY small. Sadron 20:33, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if one of the 8" Pokémon could use Minimize. TTEchidna 01:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Lol. Good point! --File:Spr 3e 059.gifFile:Spr 3e 132.gifTheryguy512 File:Trozeiani025.gif 01:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd rather Pokémon never were shorter than Pokérus, even if they represent atoms, sub-atomic particles, etc. Just like how some Bug-type Pokémon are huge despite them being insects. --Johans 07:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Shaymin Fan artwork

Not bad... I'm not complainin'.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 03:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea, though I don't like fan artwork, it looks pretty good! --Theryguy512 11:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

It works as a placeholder until we get the official artwork in the next few months. That's what matters. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 15:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks =D --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 17:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Why not use a PBR screenshot? That's official. Zurqoxn 03:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Nobody seems to be able to get an actual screenshot (as in not a photo of their television). I asked for a PBR screenshot for Arceus too a while back, to no fruition.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

We might get more luck asking for a Brawl screenshot when the game is released, though we should be getting official artwork around then anyway. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 21:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

...So does anyone know why Argy replaced it with her own fanart? --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 21:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Imo.. it's prettier. ;>___> Bit more easier on the eyes instead of that particular shade of green. Both were rather cute tho ^^ Tina ^δ♫ 21:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

She also deleted the other fan art of it....--Theryguy512 21:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it really matter to tell you the truth. It's only temporary. I think Argy's is a little better. (No offence Kenji-girl!) TESHTALKFUN 21:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, replacing it was one thing. I don't mind that if she feel's that hers is superior towards mine. But to go and delete it? That's just down right offensive. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Why not just put up both artwork in different places in the articles (if I understand right) --DarthCookieMonster 22:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

If she went so far as to delete it then I think it's not wanted. I'm just gonna post it on my userpage. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Did a admin delete it, or just this mysterous person. Anywhy, ask this mysterious person on there talk page --DarthCookieMonster 23:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Argy deleted it, she's an admin. Tina ^δ♫ 23:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Did she state a reason, or just deleted it? --DarthCookieMonster 23:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't expect this to blow up so much. The reason I deleted Kenji-girl's art was because I did not know we had her permission to use it... When I went to the Archives I saw Fabu-Vinny was the last person to edit it, so I assumed he had uploaded it (obviously now I know I was mistaken). I also noticed there were some inaccuracies in her art when compared to the sprite, so when coupled with the ambiguous source I decided to err on the side of caution and replace it. While we usually do not allow fan art (even for user pages-- that's Bulbagarden's bandwidth, not your personal storage space), in this case we don't have anything official. Because we are strict about allowing fan art we want the most accurate portrayal possible, and we need the absolute permission of the artist. FYI, Kasumi, Pie, and I are the staff artists for Bulbagarden. Having an administrator rather than an average user upload his/her own art gives the site consistency throughout its wikis and reduces almost all issues with licensing. Because I now know Kenji-girl created the art for Bulbagarden, I will let it stay in the Archives as a portrayal of a Pokémon that has no official artwork (and for use on her user page). However, this does not mean that the Shaymin and Arceus categories should be flooded with fan representations. I will also not make any further changes to the image code in Shaymin's 'pedia article. You guys can decide what to do; you can change it back to Kenji-girl's if you please. Sorry for all this (especially to Kenji-girl-- I meant no offense). I should have asked Fabu-Vinny before acting. --Argy 05:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

File:492-big.png

Shaymin sprite, enlarged for detail

Which one?

POLL CLOSED. Look, Kenji-girl's art was there first, so it's only fair that hers stays. I deleted it because I was not sure of the origin. Her art will stay in the 'pedia article until we get some official art. I did not want this to turn into a competition AT ALL. --Argy 20:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, well personally, I think that the current one makes it look like a rabbit (no offense!), and obviously, other users are debating agaisnt which picture to use. So, why don't we start a big, annoying, stupid poll have a mini-vote right here to decide which one to use?

Here are the choices:

Argy-----------------------------------------Kenji-girl

Argy's:

1. Another fsking poll? Ugh.. oh well.. I like Argy's, but then again I like her style. xD Tina ^δ♫ 23:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
2. I just really like this one a lot more.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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Kenji-girl's:

1. Looks more like Shaymin...--Theryguy512 23:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
2. This one looks less like a fan art, even though I don't completely like it. --Johans 04:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
3. --DarthCookieMonster 14:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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Please post your comments under your choice...also, when you sign your comment, put # before it. Thank you.--Theryguy512 23:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Guys please don't do this. I don't want to know how everyone prefers Argy's over mine. I don't care that her's is on the page. I was just angry that it was deleted from the archives. I already re-uploaded it and it's displayed on my userpage. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 23:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I just don't want a war to get started over this. If you want to hold a poll, than I guess it's okay... --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 00:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully Shaymin will have an artwork at Smash Bros. DOJO!! soon, or when Shaymin's silhouette appears on CoroCoro in the next weeks. Its rumored appearance in Brawl should mean that Shaymin is indeed going to be in Giratina and the Sky's Bouquet. --Johans 04:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, does it really matter? It's only temporary. TESHTALKFUN 08:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Deadline

Let's make the deadline for the poll......the 20th? That's Sunday.....that's enough time....right? --Theryguy512 19:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

K, it looks like it's closed already.....Kenji-girl's wins. --Theryguy512 20:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Current Picture

Okay, the current picture is very ehh. I'm looking for one right now of it in Brawl. Can anyone help? --Theryguy512 20:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin is finally revealed!

If somebody can obtain a good quality art of this to put on the page, that would be great. I'd just use the grab from this picture but it would be replaced by the new one.

Or should I go ahead and use this temporarily? ~ToastypkFile:Trozeiani157.gif - ^Loom.File:Trozeiani286.gif 23:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... I think it'd be best for someone to Photoshop out the Shaymin (good, I mean. Like, antialiased edges, transparent, etc...) and upload it to BG. (Shouldn't this be announced on Bulbanews, as well? There's a thread on the forums about this already, so yeah.) Tina^☆♫ 23:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I'll go ahead and do that. I'm good at cropping. ~ToastypkFile:Trozeiani157.gif - ^Loom.File:Trozeiani286.gif 23:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

if you have a problem, ive got some photoshop backround as well. not to sound like a downer, but is this 100% legit? MAGNEDETH 23:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

hows this? MAGNEDETH 00:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

That'll do. Upload it to the Archives.. Tina^☆♫ 00:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

the deed has been done. MAGNEDETH 01:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Blastit, after all my cropping... why did Archives have to crap out on me. ~ToastypkFile:Trozeiani157.gif - ^Loom.File:Trozeiani286.gif 01:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

did you make one? id like to see it. maybe its better than mine? (granted, mine only took a few minutes, and uploading took about an hour) MAGNEDETH 01:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Might as well show it, shouldn't let it go to waste really. here ~ToastypkFile:Trozeiani157.gif - ^Loom.File:Trozeiani286.gif 01:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that one's a lot better. Upload it!!! --Theryguy512 01:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

yea, thats fantastic. i didnt bother trimming anything. MAGNEDETH 01:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

One is already uploaded. I like the one in the article as it brightness, but I like this one due to its trim.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 02:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

hows this MAGNEDETH 02:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I vote for that one02:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

That wins it... I think^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 02:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

considering i modified Toasty's picture, i should ask his permission first. MAGNEDETH 02:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. But it seems just a little too bright like that. Lemme try one more here... this a nice balance? ~ToastypkFile:Trozeiani157.gif - ^Loom.File:Trozeiani286.gif 02:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I like the final one. Let's use that one. Tina^☆♫ 02:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

hmmm, idk, maybe its just me, but i think it should be a little brighter than that. MAGNEDETH 02:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

No it's fine. Seen the other artwork of other Pokémon?^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 03:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems to me this new one has virtually no outlining, looks a little odd. Though mine had a little bit of an outline thing going too. I'll try to re-upload mine as a png and see how it looks. ~ToastypkFile:Trozeiani157.gif - ^Loom.File:Trozeiani286.gif 06:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like the png thing really helped. That looks a lot nicer than when it was a gif. Plus the outlines look appropriately thick enough IMO. ~ToastypkFile:Trozeiani157.gif - ^Loom.File:Trozeiani286.gif 06:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Jp name

So is "Shaymin" really the official Japanese name and if so why was this not figured out from the DP games? - Cassius335 09:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Because that would mean the "n" is silent for whatever reason. I think the "n" alone made people think it was a slight change from the Japanese name. However, CoroCoro uses "Shaymin", so...yeah. Official in Japan too.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Sky Form Confirmed!

http://www.pokebeach.com/#shaymin-sky-form-confirmed-to-exist-details

S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l  12:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Confirmed =/= Revealed. Cipher 12:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Now that it is confirmed (and revealed) put it like giratina's evolution:

what do you think? hfc2X 00:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Leave 'em as "Form" unless the "Forme" spelling is confirmed on those two. - Cassius335 10:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Sky Form Image?

Posted by 2/4chan apparantly. --JennyRogue

...ew. It's pretty much just skinnier with longer limbs. Like when you hack Pikachu in Brawl to have Ganondorf's moves.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I can't see the image because i'm at school but i saw a picture of it before i left home this morning (I think there the same picture so yeah), too be honest, i actually like it (: Sky form = Cool. Normal form = Cute. Well, the sky form looks sorta bad-ass too me actually (: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! Your Shaymin evolved into some Eevee thingy. TTEchidna 08:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

xD Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks.......... Ok..... *Shoots Ken Sugimori*, But it's not that bad. --Force Fire 09:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

WHAT? Just as I was going against this 'Sky Form'...Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:44 23 May 2008

Its not to bad. Leafeon with more leaves and a flower and more white. yea not bad although I want to see what the sprite will be.--lord mada 15:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks Lisa-Frank like. Or like some Mary-Sue's pet. Ugh. I don't think I like this form one bit. :| Tina^☆♫ 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it's beautiful. you all probably didn't like it cause it changed from cute to mature and older-lookingPM102 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Of course, since I'm the stereotypical girl who only likes "ZOMG ADORABLE! ^____________^;" things and always makes her fanfiction characters start out with Eevee and Shaymin. Yeah, kill me for having my opinion. :| Tina^☆♫ 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a big judger IN A NEGATIVE WAY like SOME PEOPLE  :)PM102 18:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it's still cute.^__^ PL12 19:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

oo a girl that's different, that's cool :DPM102 19:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks like a goat with wings.......C is for Cookie 19:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

How can you saw that???!!! It's adorable!!!!! PL12 19:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)