Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 2: Difference between revisions

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Hmm. Did she state a reason, or just deleted it? --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]]{{Ani|471}} 23:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Hmm. Did she state a reason, or just deleted it? --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]]{{Ani|471}} 23:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow, I didn't expect this to blow up so much. The reason I deleted Kenji-girl's art was because I did not know we had her permission to use it... When I went to the Archives I saw Fabu-Vinny was the last person to edit it, so I assumed he had uploaded it (obviously now I know I was mistaken). I also noticed there were some inaccuracies in her art when compared to the sprite, so when coupled with the ambiguous source I decided to err on the side of caution and replace it. While we usually do not allow fan art ('''''even'' for user pages-- that's Bulbagarden's bandwidth, not your personal storage space'''), in this case we don't have anything official. Because we are strict about allowing fan art we want the most accurate portrayal possible, and we need the absolute permission of the artist. FYI, Kasumi, [[User:Pie|Pie]], and I are the staff artists for Bulbagarden. Having an administrator rather than an average user upload his/her own art gives the site consistency throughout its wikis and reduces almost all issues with licensing.
Because I now know Kenji-girl created the art for Bulbagarden, I will let it stay in the Archives as a portrayal of a Pokémon that has no official artwork (and for use on her user page). However, this does not mean that the Shaymin and {{p|Arceus}} categories should be flooded with fan representations. I will also not make any further changes to the image code in Shaymin's 'pedia article. You guys can decide what to do; you can change it back to Kenji-girl's if you please. Sorry for all this (especially to Kenji-girl-- I meant no offense). I should have asked Fabu-Vinny before acting. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 05:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


== Which one? ==
== Which one? ==

Revision as of 05:52, 14 January 2008

Sheimi's name origin

I dont see how "Sheimi" could have come from the word "shy". It's pronounced "shay-mee" not "shy-mee".

Shaman? Aiddat 18:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, once again..."shay". Shaman's "shah"...but it's more probably than "shy" in any case. I mean, Blastoise is consistently pronounced incorrectly, considering it's "blast" and "tortoise".--Loveはドコ? 00:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I've heard Shaman mispronounced shayman a lot in various forms of media. Mostly as a joke, really. So that may be where it has come from. Sadron 20:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Shaymin Could be partly derived from stamen. Kabutops master 8:20 pm june 17, 2007

shaymin's artwork

I pretty sure the official artwork for Shaymin hasn't been released, but I've seen a page of corocoro featuring Shaymin's TCG. Could we use that instead of the sprite? File:Ani448MS.gifVerityLiesFile:Ani395MS.gif 20:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, can you get it for us? TTEchidna 23:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I dunno, I like his sprite XD Sadron 20:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

The shortest Pokémon in existence?

Supposedly this fact is stated in Shaymin's Pokédex entry. Is this in the Japanese games? --Johans 17:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

By "Pokédex entry" we mean the height/weight info (which is present in the Pokédex), not the little blurb about Shaymin.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 05:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, there are a few, such as Diglett and Natu that are the same 8" height...--Shiningpikablu252 20:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah... It was already fixed, but my question was about the original text on the article ^_^ --Johans 21:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Seems like 8 inches is the minimum Pokemon height. Though, for all we know they'll come out with a pokemon that lives around the atoms of matter some day, VERY small. Sadron 20:33, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if one of the 8" Pokémon could use Minimize. TTEchidna 01:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Lol. Good point! --File:Spr 3e 059.gifFile:Spr 3e 132.gifTheryguy512 File:Trozeiani025.gif 01:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather Pokémon never were shorter than Pokérus, even if they represent atoms, sub-atomic particles, etc. Just like how some Bug-type Pokémon are huge despite them being insects. --Johans 07:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Shaymin Fan artwork

Not bad... I'm not complainin'.User:Pokemaniac102/Sig 03:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea, though I don't like fan artwork, it looks pretty good! User:Theryguy512/Sig 11:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
It works as a placeholder until we get the official artwork in the next few months. That's what matters. --FabuVinny T-C-S 15:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks =D --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 17:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Why not use a PBR screenshot? That's official. Zurqoxn 03:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Nobody seems to be able to get an actual screenshot (as in not a photo of their television). I asked for a PBR screenshot for Arceus too a while back, to no fruition.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 05:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
We might get more luck asking for a Brawl screenshot when the game is released, though we should be getting official artwork around then anyway. --FabuVinny T-C-S 21:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

...So does anyone know why Argy replaced it with her own fanart? --FabuVinny T-C-S 21:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Imo.. it's prettier. ;>___> Bit more easier on the eyes instead of that particular shade of green. Both were rather cute tho ^^ User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 21:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
She also deleted the other fan art of it....User:Theryguy512/Sig 21:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it really matter to tell you the truth. It's only temporary. I think Argy's is a little better. (No offence Kenji-girl!) 486TESH377TALK378FUN379 21:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, replacing it was one thing. I don't mind that if she feel's that hers is superior towards mine. But to go and delete it? That's just down right offensive. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Why not just put up both artwork in different places in the articles (if I understand right) --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 22:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

If she went so far as to delete it then I think it's not wanted. I'm just gonna post it on my userpage. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Did a admin delete it, or just this mysterous person. Anywhy, ask this mysterious person on there talk page --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 23:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Argy deleted it, she's an admin. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 23:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Did she state a reason, or just deleted it? --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 23:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't expect this to blow up so much. The reason I deleted Kenji-girl's art was because I did not know we had her permission to use it... When I went to the Archives I saw Fabu-Vinny was the last person to edit it, so I assumed he had uploaded it (obviously now I know I was mistaken). I also noticed there were some inaccuracies in her art when compared to the sprite, so when coupled with the ambiguous source I decided to err on the side of caution and replace it. While we usually do not allow fan art (even for user pages-- that's Bulbagarden's bandwidth, not your personal storage space), in this case we don't have anything official. Because we are strict about allowing fan art we want the most accurate portrayal possible, and we need the absolute permission of the artist. FYI, Kasumi, Pie, and I are the staff artists for Bulbagarden. Having an administrator rather than an average user upload his/her own art gives the site consistency throughout its wikis and reduces almost all issues with licensing. Because I now know Kenji-girl created the art for Bulbagarden, I will let it stay in the Archives as a portrayal of a Pokémon that has no official artwork (and for use on her user page). However, this does not mean that the Shaymin and Arceus categories should be flooded with fan representations. I will also not make any further changes to the image code in Shaymin's 'pedia article. You guys can decide what to do; you can change it back to Kenji-girl's if you please. Sorry for all this (especially to Kenji-girl-- I meant no offense). I should have asked Fabu-Vinny before acting. --Argy 05:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Which one?

Okay, well personally, I think that the current one makes it look like a rabbit (no offense!), and obviously, other users are debating agaisnt which picture to use. So, why don't we start a big, annoying, stupid poll have a mini-vote right here to decide which one to use?

Here are the choices:

Argy-----------------------------------------Kenji-girl

Argy's:

  1. Another fsking poll? Ugh.. oh well.. I like Argy's, but then again I like her style. xD User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 23:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. I just really like this one a lot more.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 05:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-girl's:

  1. Looks more like Shaymin...User:Theryguy512/Sig 23:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. This one looks less like a fan art, even though I don't completely like it. --Johans 04:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Please post your comments under your choice...also, when you sign your comment, put # before it. Thank you.User:Theryguy512/Sig 23:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Guys please don't do this. I don't want to know how everyone prefers Argy's over mine. I don't care that her's is on the page. I was just angry that it was deleted from the archives. I already re-uploaded it and it's displayed on my userpage. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 23:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I just don't want a war to get started over this. If you want to hold a poll, than I guess it's okay... --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 00:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Hopefully Shaymin will have an artwork at Smash Bros. DOJO!! soon, or when Shaymin's silhouette appears on CoroCoro in the next weeks. Its rumored appearance in Brawl should mean that Shaymin is indeed going to be in Giratina and the Sky's Bouquet. --Johans 04:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)