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"and it spews bodily acids from its mouth." Reference to rap?--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 01:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
"and it spews bodily acids from its mouth." Reference to rap?--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 01:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:I don't see how it would be. Unless you mean throwing up or something, but even then it's not. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:I don't see how it would be. Unless you mean throwing up or something, but even then it's not. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I see your point ,but unfortunatly no one on the pokemon team has declared it as that kind of reference. without credible sources saying that that is what you see. does not mean its fact though.
for instance, even though i personally believe that part of zoroark came from the philosopher Zoroaster  who tuaght about battles between good and evil how they are fought every day. unfortunatly(this is where i can relate) I don't have any proof of that reference. so  all i can say is i hope you find the source you need to prove this:)[[User:T3thegreat|T3thegreat]] 23:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)


== acid from mouth ==
== acid from mouth ==
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but acid is a move and mentioned in the pokedex this has been evident with other pokemon of similar standings/ via emboar fire punch yet it was mentioned. it should be consistent with the rest of the pokemon in this situation. and the pokedex entry says  "Each can spit acidic liquid from its mouth." sounds like a move to me because it is spitting acid being based on a frilled lizard it uses such acid to defend itself that is why it should be mentioned because of the fact it is mentioning the acidic liquid as a tool for that pokemon's disposal just like any other move.
but acid is a move and mentioned in the pokedex this has been evident with other pokemon of similar standings/ via emboar fire punch yet it was mentioned. it should be consistent with the rest of the pokemon in this situation. and the pokedex entry says  "Each can spit acidic liquid from its mouth." sounds like a move to me because it is spitting acid being based on a frilled lizard it uses such acid to defend itself that is why it should be mentioned because of the fact it is mentioning the acidic liquid as a tool for that pokemon's disposal just like any other move.
it is not like the pikachu question just beuase pikachu can bite it is unable to learn such because being able to bite can be used by anything with a mouth vs. being able to spit acid is more unique to certain pokemon. this is just a basis on a pokemon entry due to what it says it is capable of. and consistency is important among all entries [[User:T3thegreat|T3thegreat]] 02:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
it is not like the pikachu question just beuase pikachu can bite it is unable to learn such because being able to bite can be used by anything with a mouth vs. being able to spit acid is more unique to certain pokemon. this is just a basis on a pokemon entry due to what it says it is capable of. and consistency is important among all entries [[User:T3thegreat|T3thegreat]] 02:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
: First of all, there's no evidence that Scrafty's actually based on a frilled lizard. Second, frilled lizards don't use acid for defense; that's just from Jurassic Park.


== New Trivia ==
== New Trivia ==
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[[User:Zarthga|Zarthga]] 15:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Zarthga|Zarthga]] 15:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Likewise. I was just answering your question as honestly as I could. "Acidic liquid" doesn't necessarily mean the move {{m|Acid}}; it could mean other moves like  {{m|Gastro Acid}} or {{m|Acid Spray}}. Plus, your Toxic and Sludge Bomb note practically invalidates the trivia on its own. There's no need to snap at me just because you don't like the answer I gave. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Likewise. I was just answering your question as honestly as I could. "Acidic liquid" doesn't necessarily mean the move {{m|Acid}}; it could mean other moves like  {{m|Gastro Acid}} or {{m|Acid Spray}}. Plus, your Toxic and Sludge Bomb note practically invalidates the trivia on its own. There's no need to snap at me just because you don't like the answer I gave. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
uhm hey i mentioned this above:/ and i already posted why it is important trivia whether we can add right now or not. bulbapedia has plenty of pokemon that do mention the fact when pokemon's pokedex entries say they can use something but cannot learn the move. like emboar fires punch shiftry and mind reader roserade with power whip/ vine whip and plenty more. having personal opinions about what is "worthy" for trivia is not what defines bulbapedia. it is the facts that make the cut. I mentioned this above and I will say this again. bulbapedia needs that consistency among ALL pokemon. say.ing that one pokemon is worthy of this kind of trivia and not the other is not consistent or fact please notice all other post in discussionbefore you post :/[[User:T3thegreat|T3thegreat]] 14:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 
uhm hey i mentioned this above:/ and i already posted why it is important trivia whether we can add right now or not. bulbapedia has plenty of pokemon that do mention the fact when pokemon's pokedex entries say they can use something but cannot learn the move. like emboar fires punch shiftry and mind reader roserade with power whip/ vine whip and plenty more. having personal opinions about what is "worthy" for trivia is not what defines bulbapedia. it is the facts that make the cut. I mentioned this above and I will say this again. bulbapedia needs that consistency among ALL pokemon. say.ing that one pokemon is worthy of this kind of trivia and not the other is not consistent or fact please notice all other post in discussionbefore you post :/ further more I want to mention that he cant learn any of the acid moves not just acid but also gastro acid and acid spray he is unable to learn. that is worthy of being mentioned.[[User:T3thegreat|T3thegreat]] 14:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
:It learns Sludge Bomb, and that's definitely enough.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 14:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
sludge bomb is not an acid move though. although used from its mouth( a rare trait) it is not used  as an acid but as a bomb. in the series sludge bomb is used from the mouth likewise the acid moves
(other than acid armor). the difference is  the pokedex says acidic liquid" the "acidic" the part that separates it from just sludge bomb use. the problem why you guys are not understanding is because your are not really reading what we have to say. we, as humans, tend to hear the first part of something and immediately jump on it without hearing the rest of the facts.(basic psychology) both of us not only share the same idea but we also saw both sides of the story. the difference is I know how to use the other side to prove a point. so it is not enough to say it is not worthy because sludge is a different move relation than acid and etc. it is not enough to say that it is not valid when there are points that prove that it is. this argument is not one sided it takes two to tango, but being able to know the other persons opinion and find there facts. it is worthy not because I say its worthy ,but because all other pokemon in this situation proved this to be worthy. the pokedex and similar situations are enough to prove a point on their own. the unproven relation between the acid moves and sludge bomb is not enough to prove this wrong. but, we can agree to disagree and say this.
" Although scrafty's pokedex entry says that it can spit acidic liquid from its mouth it is unable to learn any acid related moves, although able to learn sludge bomb via TM."
is that enough to say, because I believe just making one good point is not enough to win a debate.
[[User:T3thegreat|T3thegreat]] 14:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
:Hey, I'm sorry I snapped at you, I was tired and a little grumpy, so I appoligize. [[User:Zarthga|Zarthga]] 06:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 
== Possible trivia? ==
 
Will it be worth noting in the trivia section that F-00 from the Pokemon Studios movies in B2W2 moves in a similar matter to Scrafty as far as battle sprite goes? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 16:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:22, 10 August 2012

Nickname

Should it be added that it quickly became very popular on 4chan's /vp/ (Pokemon) board? It has also been nicknamed Pantslizard.DeadUniverse Hello! 16:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

no it's nothing like smugleaf Ataro 17:21, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Name origin

Could Zuruzukin also be a skin pun? Its "zukin" is made of skin! /Lame joke PLA 10:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Rap

"and it spews bodily acids from its mouth." Reference to rap?--Burgundy 01:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how it would be. Unless you mean throwing up or something, but even then it's not. --SnorlaxMonster 13:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I see your point ,but unfortunatly no one on the pokemon team has declared it as that kind of reference. without credible sources saying that that is what you see. does not mean its fact though. for instance, even though i personally believe that part of zoroark came from the philosopher Zoroaster who tuaght about battles between good and evil how they are fought every day. unfortunatly(this is where i can relate) I don't have any proof of that reference. so all i can say is i hope you find the source you need to prove this:)T3thegreat 23:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

acid from mouth

pokedex entry says that it can spit acid from its mouth yet the only similar move would be sludge bomb= unable to learn acid :/ although sludge bomb is a mouth attack, poison jab is.. a jab and toxic is unspecific shouldn't something be mention about the fact that he cannot learn acid despite the pokedex entry and if so I would like to make the changeT3thegreat 01:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

May I point out that just because a Pokemon can do a certain thing does not mean it's an actual move Ataro 01:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

but acid is a move and mentioned in the pokedex this has been evident with other pokemon of similar standings/ via emboar fire punch yet it was mentioned. it should be consistent with the rest of the pokemon in this situation. and the pokedex entry says "Each can spit acidic liquid from its mouth." sounds like a move to me because it is spitting acid being based on a frilled lizard it uses such acid to defend itself that is why it should be mentioned because of the fact it is mentioning the acidic liquid as a tool for that pokemon's disposal just like any other move. it is not like the pikachu question just beuase pikachu can bite it is unable to learn such because being able to bite can be used by anything with a mouth vs. being able to spit acid is more unique to certain pokemon. this is just a basis on a pokemon entry due to what it says it is capable of. and consistency is important among all entries T3thegreat 02:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

First of all, there's no evidence that Scrafty's actually based on a frilled lizard. Second, frilled lizards don't use acid for defense; that's just from Jurassic Park.

New Trivia

Should this be added to the trivia?

  • Although Scrafty's Black Pokedex entry states it can shoot an acidic liquid from it's mouth, it cannot learn acid by any means.
    • However it can learn Toxic by TM (a move any Pokemon that can learn as long as if it can learn TM moves) and Sludge Bomb by TM.


Zarthga 15:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Definitely not. The banner at the top of the site specifically says no trivia, and that wouldn't be that good of a trivia item even if it were allowed. --AndyPKMN (talk) 15:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even mean to put it in the trivia now, i was just asking if it would be good for later. Take that stick out of your @$$. Zarthga 15:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Likewise. I was just answering your question as honestly as I could. "Acidic liquid" doesn't necessarily mean the move Acid; it could mean other moves like Gastro Acid or Acid Spray. Plus, your Toxic and Sludge Bomb note practically invalidates the trivia on its own. There's no need to snap at me just because you don't like the answer I gave. --AndyPKMN (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

uhm hey i mentioned this above:/ and i already posted why it is important trivia whether we can add right now or not. bulbapedia has plenty of pokemon that do mention the fact when pokemon's pokedex entries say they can use something but cannot learn the move. like emboar fires punch shiftry and mind reader roserade with power whip/ vine whip and plenty more. having personal opinions about what is "worthy" for trivia is not what defines bulbapedia. it is the facts that make the cut. I mentioned this above and I will say this again. bulbapedia needs that consistency among ALL pokemon. say.ing that one pokemon is worthy of this kind of trivia and not the other is not consistent or fact please notice all other post in discussionbefore you post :/ further more I want to mention that he cant learn any of the acid moves not just acid but also gastro acid and acid spray he is unable to learn. that is worthy of being mentioned.T3thegreat 14:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

It learns Sludge Bomb, and that's definitely enough.----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 14:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

sludge bomb is not an acid move though. although used from its mouth( a rare trait) it is not used as an acid but as a bomb. in the series sludge bomb is used from the mouth likewise the acid moves (other than acid armor). the difference is the pokedex says acidic liquid" the "acidic" the part that separates it from just sludge bomb use. the problem why you guys are not understanding is because your are not really reading what we have to say. we, as humans, tend to hear the first part of something and immediately jump on it without hearing the rest of the facts.(basic psychology) both of us not only share the same idea but we also saw both sides of the story. the difference is I know how to use the other side to prove a point. so it is not enough to say it is not worthy because sludge is a different move relation than acid and etc. it is not enough to say that it is not valid when there are points that prove that it is. this argument is not one sided it takes two to tango, but being able to know the other persons opinion and find there facts. it is worthy not because I say its worthy ,but because all other pokemon in this situation proved this to be worthy. the pokedex and similar situations are enough to prove a point on their own. the unproven relation between the acid moves and sludge bomb is not enough to prove this wrong. but, we can agree to disagree and say this. " Although scrafty's pokedex entry says that it can spit acidic liquid from its mouth it is unable to learn any acid related moves, although able to learn sludge bomb via TM." is that enough to say, because I believe just making one good point is not enough to win a debate. T3thegreat 14:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I'm sorry I snapped at you, I was tired and a little grumpy, so I appoligize. Zarthga 06:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Possible trivia?

Will it be worth noting in the trivia section that F-00 from the Pokemon Studios movies in B2W2 moves in a similar matter to Scrafty as far as battle sprite goes? Frozen Fennec 16:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)