Talk:Remake

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Third versions

By the definition of remake in the article, wouldn't the third versions be considered remakes? Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 21:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

^ It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 00:46, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Speculation section

Do we really need it? It is all speculation, and I could dismiss half of it. Sure, it's tagged as speculation, but it doesn't make it fine to put in the article. --SnorlaxMonster 11:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Or it can be moved to an article of its own like the GS remake one. There are evidences of it, somewhat like shipping. tc²₆tc26 11:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I thought that got deleted because we didn't want an article full of just speculation. I think this kind of thing is best suited for the forums. --SnorlaxMonster 12:15, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Sinnoh League Ground

It is worth mentioning that in Platinum in Sinnoh League building there is a ground with a red outer side, blue inner side and green-like moving lines (which could reference to R/S/E colors) Marked +-+-+ 21:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that's notable enough to be mentioned in the article. I'd say it's just pure coincidence. Han Ji-Wan 00:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Prefix

From what I've noticed, remakes have some sort of prefix at the begining
HeartGold
SoulSilver
FireRed
LeafGreen
Should this be noted? Pgj1997 16:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

It's not really that interesting. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 16:26, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
So? - unsigned comment from Pgj1997 (talkcontribs)

So-called evidence

A lot of the 'evidence' in the Speculation section seems really unneccesary. What does bringing back ocean currents, an area with a sandstorm, or Ash's party in DP189, have anything to do with a possible remake? I think the section needs trimming. Vuvuzela2010 20:41, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

^ Ocean currents and sandstorms were introduced in Gen III and Ash used some of his Hoenn Pokémon in that episode. That is why they were added. I'm not saying they are the best piece of evidence, just saying why they were added. --HoennMaster 20:56, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
I know, but they are not the same as, for example, Johto being coded in as a trade location, or Dawn traveling to Hoenn after SS024, opening the possibility of an anime reappearance for Hoenn. I guess they would have to re-code the ocean currents and the sandstorms back into the game, so thats fine, but as for DP189, thats from the Gen IV series, if Ash were to recall his Hoenn Pokemon in the Best Wishes series it would be notable. And a hiddden note next to it actually states that he only has three AG Pokemon on his team not including Pikachu (Sceptile, Swellow, Torkoal), Pikachu is what makes it "most of his team". Regarding some other points:
  • The sixth Gym Leader of Unova, Skyla, is a Flying-type specialist and lives near a rainy area, like Winona from Hoenn and both are the sixth Gym Leader in their respective regions.
Like Winona and Skyla, Pryce, Candice and Brycen are Ice-type gym leaders #7, but it doesnt mean that HeartGold/SoulSilver and Diamond/Pearl will get remakes.
Dragonite has a far more notable appearance, but it doesnt mean that they will remake FireRed/LeafGreen. And Armaldo is not unobtainable in BW.
  • A Backpacker in Desert Resort tells the player that he comes from Hoenn, and that he doesn't need the Go-Goggles here unlike in Hoenn.
  • In Undella Town during Summer, a boy tells the player that he and his family comes from Hoenn and visit Undella Town every Summer. A girl also mentions Steven Stone.
Random characters may mention Hoenn, but they also mention other regions.
  • No characters introduced in Generation III are reused in Black and White, unlike other generations which saw characters repeated in these games. Cynthia, Looker, Caitlin, and a former Team Rocket Grunt were introduced before they appeared in Black and White.
This is actually evidence against a remake, Jasmine appeared in DP, and her games got a remake.
It also introduced another bull-based Pokémon, mole-based Pokémon, fire ape-based Pokémon, baku-based Pokémon, horse-based Pokémon, bat-based Pokémon, Machop-based Pokémon, tadpole-based Pokémon, Hitmon-based Pokémon, cotton plant-based Pokémon, feminine, rafflesia-based Pokémon, fossil prehistoric bird-based Pokémon, kitsune-based Pokémon, fungi-based Pokémon, Jellyfish-based Pokémon, spider-based Pokémon, bear-based Pokémon.
Vuvuzela2010 23:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I trimmed down the article and removed many unnecessary facts. Some of the facts that you removed were worth keeping. You don't hear anyone else mentioning Champion Lance of the Kanto and Johto regions, do you? And having Dive return as a HM, a large desert, The Riches Family (which is battled in the same way as Winstrates), ocean currents, language on walls (which wasn't present anywhere in Sinnoh), etc. is all there so that the programmers won't have to make much changes to the engine of Black and White for the remakes of Ruby and Sapphire. The same thing happened in Generation IV. HeartGold and SoulSilver were modified heavily off of Pokémon Platinum's game engine and there was a good amount of similarities between Johto and Sinnoh (Jasmine's appearance, Gym Leader line-up, interaction with trees, etc.). --Dialgafan1 00:20, 19 September 2011 (UTC)