Talk:Pokémon world

i think those refences to real places are just talking about pokemon eqevelints

hi...i am the submitter of the edited version of the in game maps to make into one map and i fixed the file and uploaded the new file but the thumbnail on this page wont change...if nayobdy could help it would...well, help thanks!

File:Allregions2.PNG

The end result

Sure thing. Changing an image's size is easy. Now, here's the data as written on the page:

[[Image:allregions2.PNG|thumb|A map of the known world as in the Pokémon series games, including Sinnoh drawn in the "old style"]]

It's simple enough. You just have to know the size. For example, to reduce it to a 100 pixel picture, just add (shown in bold):

[[Image:allregions2.PNG|thumb|100px|A map of the known world as in the Pokémon series games, including Sinnoh drawn in the "old style"]]

The end result is shown to the right. This can be done for any picture, and of varying sizes. --DarkfireTaimatsu 19:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't seem to remove the image from the page due to some kind of database error, but it needs to be taken off. It's pure fanon. We can't know what the entire Pokemon World looks like in the games, and there is definitely NO evidence suggesting Sinnoh is connected to Kanto/Johto. --Greengiant 19:12, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes there is. In the animé, they say that Sinnoh is to the north of Kanto.

No, Sinnoh is not connected to Johto/Kanto regions because it has a very diferent variation of pokemon (nothing like Johto/Kanto regions pokémon) and if the regions were connected the pokemon from Sinnoh would mix with the pokémon from Johto/Kanto (it means that we would be able to see Piplups, Chimchars, Turtwigs, Buizels, Bunearys, Pachirisus, Starlys (and other pokémon that are being showned only in Sinnoh in the anime)in Kanto and Johto regions too, but it has'nt happened because the Sinnoh and the Johto/Kanto regions are sepperated from each other the way that the Hoen region is (In "Home is where the start is" Ash told: Sinnoh island, here I come!).And where are the Orange islands in that so called "map" at the top right of the page?--Tomas 10:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, just as Hoenn is west of Kanto. It's a separate island. --Greengiant 19:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

There isn't any evidence that Sinnoh is an island though, so each person can make up his/her own mind about whether it is on the same landmass as Kanto/Johto or not until official evidence is revealed.

Precisely. Everything on the wiki should be official. Keeping it up makes it look like we know when we don't. We just shouldn't have a map at all. It's interesting, but it has no place here. --Greengiant 19:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Is there any official evidence that contradicts the map?
And even if you are right, the map shouldn't be removed, just edited to not have Sinnoh.

Well there's certainly no evidence that supports it. The anime pictures deliberately separate Hoenn, Kanto/Johto, and Sinnoh with clouds because even they don't know what it's supposed to look like in its entirety. If we are going to have a fan-made map of these regions, we should at least follow suit and keep them separate. --Greengiant 19:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Why aren't you against having shipping articles on Bulbapedia? They are entirely fanon, and that map is only partially fanon.

Because Game Freak themselves have implied that Sinnoh is a separate landmass from Johto/Kanto. Sure you can't see the very southernmost point of Sinnoh, but nor can you see the very easternmost part or northernmost point. You certainly had no problem assuming that to the west was water, so why not leave it to the fact that, oh, I dunno... Sinnoh, Kanto/Johto, and Hoenn are based off of real locations, and they're separate landmasses in the real world. Sure, Game Freak takes liberties, but really, if they were connected, couldn't Ash have walked there from Pallet like he did to Johto? He never walked to Hoenn, that's a separate landmass, therefore, in my eyes, Sinnoh is as well. TTEchidna 20:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Ash took a boat because it is easier than walking.

Then why didn't he to get to Johto? If he took a boat from Pallet, it'd have to go all the way around the landmass to get to Twinleaf. Also, it's better to sign your comments so I know who's saying what. Use ~~~~. TTEchidna 20:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

He would have to go over the Kanto/Johto mountain range and the Sinnoh range to get to Twinleaf Town from Pewter City.Shiny Noctowl 20:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

He'd have to go past Mt. Silver to get to Johto. Don't see much real difference at all, especially since he showed no problem getting to anywhere else in Kanto. Sinnoh's separate in the anime interpretation of the map, so therefore, my vote is that it's an island, or at the very least, not on the same landmass as Kanto. TTEchidna 21:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

While I know it's not official, I at least think it's important to point out the most popular theory for how the Pokémon world is layed out, because I don't think this person is familiar with it, and he needs to see a good conflicting viewpoint. Click for giant pic. Sinnoh being to the north is still there, as it is in your created picture. The games/anime never say to the IMMEDIATE north. And as for Hoenn, they don't particularly label the areas North/South/East/West, so it still could be relevant.

All that aside, that is why your map doesn't belong here. Hoenn and Sinnoh are in locations we can't confirm so far, so we have to keep away from maps that assume that.--Porygon 02:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Submitter here: thats true that i did a pretty bad job making that part up...but i got rid of sinnoh and the photoshopped stuff in this version: click for edited map anyways...that map (Click for giant pic.) is interesting and proves your point that we have no idea where they all are...maybe we can send nintendo a letter or email or something to show us the official map of all the regions... for the first persons response...that was not the problem i was trying to fix but whatever...good to know...and...if you dont like that version then you can try this one. you know what...you guys should create a page just to display fan art! then we could put those there! - unsigned comment from Bill33421 (talk • contribs)

We're a Pokémon Encyclopedia, not a Fan Art site. --PAK Man ^Talk 02:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

yeah well you dont have to be so mean about it...humph

If I came off as being mean, then I apologize. I just meant that it's unlikely we'll have a page for displaying user's fanart, since that's not what Bulbapedia does. --PAK Man ^Talk 03:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

But hey, if you want to include any fan-esque speculation and art, you can always make a new page under your own user directory regarding that. Agry has her own page regarding what gender each Pokémon from the anime is that I find pretty interesting, even if it's nothing we can officially have on the Wiki it.--Porygon 04:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

well fine...but i cant figure out how to make a sub page...could somebody tell me? thanks! Bill33421

If you want a sub-page of your userpage, just put it at Bill33421/Whatever. For example, I have one of mine at User:TTEchidna/GSDS.

Thx

No, because Ash took a boat to travel there just like to Hoen(going to Sinnoh by an airship like to the Orange islandswould have been much quicker than a boat) - unsigned comment from Tomas (talk • contribs)

hoenn must be farther south because a desert would only be able exist at high temperatures, which would logically place it closer to the equator. of course Gens I and II might not have deserts because of lack of programming space.--Mtn otter 18:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

THE ALL IMPORTANT QUESTION IN THE POKEMON WORLD

DO ANIMALS EXIST IN THIS WORLD!!! (other than the worms being eaten by Pigeotto in Episode 3)

Yes. The episode in the Cerulean Gym shows fish swimming in the aquarium. Also, in the one with Brutella, there are fish swimming outside of the windows of the underwater resort. --Shiny Noctowl^{Talk|Trivia quiz}File:224MS.gif 21:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention that a coral reef (yes, they are classified as animals) was seen in the Manaphy movie.

The anime has not featured real animals since early Kanto thus they are unimportant and this question is not what it was hyped up to be. (Coral is just decoration so it doesn't count even if it is officially animal.) --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 17:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Breeding

There seems to be a misconception stated in the article that only when baby Pokémon grow into their adult phase can they breed. Obviously not true. Pichu, evolve to Pikachu. Pikachu can still breed... ^ht14 04:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Pikachu is not a baby Pokémon.--Clarky13 22:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... some Pokémon seem to be similar to mammals, so why do they produce eggs? Pikachu127

Featured article

Only have one more section to expand and complete, then the article is finished. Do you think this article is "Featured article" worthy? If not... explain.--Clarky13 22:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I found this

Navegating through the internet I found this:


That changes a bit the part that says that Orre is based on Arizona. hfc2X 21:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a source for thiss??? --Theryguy512 21:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Hfc2X, Although this is old, I would like to note that that is an accurate map. The only problem I noticed was Oree is not based off of Hiroshima Prefecture, because it doesn't have desert and No one in Japan likes to think about Hiroshima... but anyway. I think Orre is the Arizona Desert because it is the same shape and is totally desert. but thanks for sharing the map!! Sandshrew-san 6:55 EDT November 17, 2009

Has anyone seem this map before? Is it legiment?

There was this map I found. I think its for the TCG. Anyone seen it before? Heres the link? http://pojo.com/Features/Jan2002/022002Greg.html --Pokéboy93 01:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Judging from the cards depicted, it seems to be based on the Japanese TCG set The Town On No Map (E-Card 2). --DarkfireTaimatsu 02:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

More Real World Correlation

Just checked a map of Japan. Does anyone else believe it's accurate to say that the position of the Indigo Plateau corresponds to the position of Mt. Fuji in the real world? If so, it may be worth noting on the main page. Legionaireb 14:14, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I beleive it is accurate, but not note worthy.--Mtn otter 18:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Mt. Fuji is Mt. Silver. TTEchidna 17:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Location, Location, Location

We all are wondering about where the regions are, and we have little to go by (we know Kanto and Johto are beside each other and that Hoenn and Sinnoh are islands). However, I was looking at the maps and had a revelation. Look at Johto/Kanto. Far east looks like Earth's far east. We have a peninsula (Veridian) that looks like Japan, further west is a peninsula (Pallet) that looks like India, still further west is a peninsula in the approximate location of Africa. It looks a lot like Eurasia. So that got me to thinking and I realized how much Hoenn looks like Australia, so why not put it due south of Cinnabar island? Then you have Sinnoh, which has snowpoint, mountains, and looks suspiciously like Greenland, so put it westnorthwest of Johto. Then the Orange Islands can go in the general Philippines area. I know this is all speculation and vague likenesses (and I realize that the regions are based on those of Japan, not what I said), but I needed to throw the idea out there for others to see, think about, and consider.

What's wrong with the HeartGold and SoulSilver maps of Kanto and Johto?

There is a tint over them?--Midnight Blue 00:30, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

explanation here —darklordtrom 10:47, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Alright, it's new to me, so thnx.--Midnight Blue 17:19, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

In the anime....

In the anime in one episode (which I don't remember the specific name of) everyone in the episode mentions Hollywood and they go there, if I remember right. So wouldn't that be evidence that the Pokémon world is really just Earth itself, but with Pokémon? - unsigned comment from TheLastCharmander (talk • contribs)

1) Sign your comments (with ~~~~), please. 2) Read the article, please. 梅子^❄_❅ 06:44, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Sun and other real-world connection stuff

I think the Sun is another real-world reference -- not all planets have a perfectly-sized and yellowish-white sun anyway. Besides, the Gregorian calendar is also noteworthy. Together with the Foreign Building, it is also a reference of Christianity. The history section is way too long, since we have another article dedicated to it. Just remove the "Magikarp mutated and became weaker", "Porygon was created in the 1990s", etc. The Kyogre and Groudun, Ho-oh and Lugia parts need to be shortened too. Rxhar 09:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Legendary dogs

The three legendary dogs were reincarnations of three Pokémon that died in the Tin Tower fire, and it seems that that part was completely left out. Should that be added.--Christopher Costello 15:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Christian church

Should the episode in which the apparently Christian church appears be added to the section which mentions it? Bulbajer 02:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's overtly Christian... It takes design elements from temples, churches, and mosques. Besides, in what capacity would it be added to the article? That the existence of such a building suggests that religion exists in the Pokémon world? It doesn't seem particularly noteworthy to me. --AndyPKMN 02:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Well we've got the Foreign Building in Hearthome... which episode are you talking about? —darklordtrom 02:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Earth in Movie 1

Does anyone remember that Meowth said to his clone that they share the same EARTH!!! They live on EARTH! Although this is only the dub, I have not officially heard it in Japan. - unsigned comment from Ashanddawn4evr (talk • contribs)

He could mean the same soil Synner 21:06, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Earth

Isn't the planet technically Earth? It looks like Earth and they didn't say Pokémon took place in a distant galaxy. Why is it called "Pokémon World" instead of "Earth?"--SeanWheeler 16:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Unless they specifically state it's Earth, it isn't. R.A. Hunter Blade 16:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Why does the Johto dex reference earth? Poliraths entry states "This strong and skilled swimmer is even capable of crossing the Pacific Ocean just by kicking." This must mean something.DJDantae 07:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we know. There were many mentions of real places. But last I checked, "Sinnoh" is not the name of a real place. Yes, the Pokémon world was based on Earth. But it's not the same place we live in. It's never been said that they live on Earth. We can't make that assumption. --electAbuzzzz 08:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)