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Titles missing "Version"?

Do the titles include "version" this time? I'm not seeing it on the official site or the trailer. I think they're just called Pokemon X and Pokemon Y now. Hheebo (talk) 14:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon X and Y "Versions"?

Is it right to be calling them Pokemon X Version and Pokemon Y version? Unlike previous games Nintendo hasn't used the word "version" when referring to them by name, just calling them Pokemon X and Pokemon Y rather than, to use the most recent example, "Pokemon Black Version 2" and "Pokemon White Version 2". The logos don't contain the word "version" either. I think they should simply be referred to as Pokemon X and Y. EDIT: Ninja'd by Hheebo. Delete if necessary. NFreak007 (talk) 14:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I second this. "Versions" hasn't been mentioned at all, nor are contained in the logos. If "Versions" were in the title, there's usually a habit of saying it every time the game title comes up. It's misleading to list the article as it being called "X and Y Versions" if there really isn't any facts backing that up. --Manaphy1 16:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Thirded. It should be Pokémon X and Y, as I stated on Pokémon Black and White Versions 2's trivia section. Please rename this page and change this article and the Generation VI one accordingly. Digifiend (talk) 17:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Fourthed. Every other main series entry has had "version" on it, this is different in all languages. This should be reflected in the title of the page. - unsigned comment from NP Chilla (talkcontribs)
Here. Enjoy. Masatoshitalk 18:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
That seems to be a screenshot from Nintendo3DS's video. The official Pokémon channel uploaded the same trailer, and they don't use the word Version, and they're strict with that word, putting it in all Black Version 1 and White Version 1 videos. ToastUltimatum 19:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

New region

In this article it states that the new region is likely based off of France but the Generation VI page says it draws inspiration from various points within Europe. The pages should be more consistent and more neutral about the subject. Արիանո 14:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

  • The Nintendo Direct Trailer begins with Pikachu atop the Eiffel Tower. Unova draws from inspirations outside of the strict real world New York; it's not conflicting to say it's both based on France and draws inspiration from the rest of Europe.

Trivia to be added, I believe...

A bit of trivia to be added:

  • These are the first main series games to have letters in the title rather than color names.
  • The game titles may be named after the X and Y axes of the Cartesian coordinations. ~~LDEJRuff~~ 10:04, 8 January, 2013 (UTC)
Given that the Japanese logos clearly have DNA helixes in them, I think it's safe to say that they were going for genetics. Not coordinates. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 15:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Why not both? --Dorsal Axe (talk) 15:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Because the Japanese logos have DNA helixes in them so they are standing for genetics, not coordinates. It was made pretty clear by Jo. Rainbow Shifter (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

They're obviously named after the x and y chromosomes, not coordinates. Munlax (talk) 17:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Could it not be a double meaning? Digifiend (talk) 17:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
And what makes you think it's coordinates? For all I know, we could also use algebraic expressions. So far, Jo's bet is the safest. Since it has helixes that resemble a DNA string, it's unlikely to have been based in coordinates. Masatoshitalk 17:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
It's obviously based on Genetics, but Gamefreak and Nintendo love puns. X axis and Y axis. If the third legendary forms a Z shape, then I think it's safe to say that it's also partially a stealth 3DS pun --Shadowater (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Why would it be based off coordinates anyway? It makes more sense to have them based off genetics seeming as you breed Pokemon in the game. And no, it has been said numerous times: The Japanese logos have DNA helixes in them. End of story. Rainbow Shifter (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
That doesn't really discount the other reasoning. You may notice the logo is also in 3D text (which they've never done for a logo before), which would indicate to me that they're going for a double entendre with the titles. --Dorsal Axe (talk) 17:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
I thought it was to do with the buttons on the DS and 3DS consoles, shows what I know...TurtleLover1999 (talk) 20:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

More trivia for your perusal: They'll be the first main series games to be released simultaneously worldwide, and "Pokemon X" was the original name for both Lugia and Pokemon Crystal.

Based off France?

To suggest the region will 'likely' be based on France seems to be speculation of the sort that the banner of the top forbids, Tokyo also has a structure like the Eiffel Tower. Alexsau1991 (talk) 17:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

The streets have an European-like setting; Pikachu spread his message from a location that seemed to be the same as France; that tower looks like the Eiffel Tower and it seems to use gray instead of white and red. While it's not confirmed, it is plausible that the region might be based in France. Masatoshitalk 17:18, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
While it seems plausible, even likely. Isn't it still speculation? And why the entire region, rather than that particular city (I don't recall France having a desert, for example)? Castelia City in Black and White is said to be based off New York, yet the entire region isn't said to be based on the USA. Alexsau1991 (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
There's a big difference between the USA and France, the US is a massive country (in terms of size and little would be explored, if not ignoring plenty of cities). I for one think it may be based in Europe, but that city, along with that picture with the bridge remind me of the Palace of Versailles. Most people seem to agree it might be based in Europe/France, so for the time being, we'll leave it like this. Masatoshitalk 17:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Pikachu's pretty clearly shown on the Eiffel Tower, in a country in the general location that everyone expects France to be. --Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Regardless it is very blatant speculation, of which this encyclopaedia has clearly warned it's editors of avoiding. Popular agreement is NOT "confirmation by a reliable source". What's the point in that rule, if your so keen on breaking it? Alexsau1991 (talk) 18:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I do agree that it's speculation right now. It's like when everybody put Kyurem as the third member of the Tao trio before it was confirmed, despite them arguing tooth and nail and out right refusing to allow Giratina to be stated as the third member of the Dragon trio before Platinum came out Shadowater (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Region is based in France

Besides the obvious Eiffel Tower reference, I found out that the buildings shown are reminiscent of Paris's type (which was forced as an official style there) and additionally, the place Pikachu is giving the conference is Paris. I'm including the picture for future reference. [1] --M.vit (talk) 22:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)