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Should we maybe not do that for GO-related articles (and by extension, for anything that doesn't originate in Japan), move it to "In other languages" where all other languages are? I agree that for most things on here, Japanese names are more canon somehow than any other language (and may have been mistranslated or lost some connotation), so they somehow "deserve" such prominent placement, but when the original language ''is'' English and everything is basically translated '''to''' Japanese, I believe maybe we shouldn't emphasize their Japanese names in the same way. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 
Should we maybe not do that for GO-related articles (and by extension, for anything that doesn't originate in Japan), move it to "In other languages" where all other languages are? I agree that for most things on here, Japanese names are more canon somehow than any other language (and may have been mistranslated or lost some connotation), so they somehow "deserve" such prominent placement, but when the original language ''is'' English and everything is basically translated '''to''' Japanese, I believe maybe we shouldn't emphasize their Japanese names in the same way. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
   
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Niantic has made available, HD versions of the Halloween, Holiday, New Years, and Spring loading screens.
 
Niantic has made available, HD versions of the Halloween, Holiday, New Years, and Spring loading screens.
   
 
You can check them out on their [http://pokemongolive.com/en/post/loadingscreens official blog]. — [[User:Rmkane|Rmkane]] ([[User talk:Rmkane|talk]]) 11:53, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 
You can check them out on their [http://pokemongolive.com/en/post/loadingscreens official blog]. — [[User:Rmkane|Rmkane]] ([[User talk:Rmkane|talk]]) 11:53, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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:Niantic just published their Raid Battle loading screen on their blog linked above. All the images are HD or higher resolution. — [[User:Rmkane|Rmkane]] ([[User talk:Rmkane|talk]]) 13:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
   
 
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Generation confirmed?

The article's infobox states that the game is part of Generation VI. Has this actually been confirmed? I would have thought now that it's more likely this game will be part of Generation VII. If the information is not confirmed, can we just remove it? Kidburla (talk) 21:17, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

2015/2016 confusion

"....held by Niantic CEO John Hanke on March 14, 2015, but was later cancelled..."

Isn't "2015" supposed to be 2016? Chaossy (talk) 20:22, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Slightly late, but you are correct. Hopefully someone should fix it soon with more eyes on the page. --Super goku (talk) 16:01, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon Go Plus

This is confirmed to be $34.99 and may be released in late July (they will try for that). Kurt22 (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Coin Prize Euros

The coin prizes are:

€ 0,99 for 100 € 4,99 for 550 € 9,99 for 1200 € 19,99 for 2500 € 39,99 for 5200 € 99,99 for 14500

Bigtukker (talk) 15:57, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Size and weight

Unlike core series, it's not fixed. Pokémon can be lighter/heavier and/or smaller/taller than the usual norm. For example, I have seen a picture of 0.65m/4.8kg Raticate (marked with XS for weight). Eridanus (talk) 12:55, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Pikachu can be caught as starter Pokémon

As seen in this picture a player can get pikachu by walking away from the other three https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm3wRieW8AA0cgM.jpg:large Veilor (talk) 22:39, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Eeveelutions

The article currently says that eevee evolves based on its moves but that doesn't seem to be the case based on the data being compiled here - unsigned comment from Spexile (talkcontribs)

I read the post and thought I maybe understood what it wanted, but then I looked at the data spreadsheet and it pretty much stopped making all sense to me... The only thing I can understand from it is that, yes, it does appear Eevee's evolution criteria is not just the move it knows. Beyond that, I don't know it'll even be possible to draw any conclusions from that spreadsheet. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:24, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Available Pokemon and Items

Item list should be updated to include the disposable incubators. This user has found them at PokeStops with capability to incubate up to 3 eggs in total, one at a time. Possibility of stronger incubators?

Also, current PokeDex is listing user's owned pokemon out of available 250. While there have been little to no reports on Generation II Pokemon being seen or caught, it should be noted that the game is listing them as a possibility, likely at higher trainer levels. - unsigned comment from Carson3000 (talkcontribs)

You may want to double-check, are you really looking in the Pokedex (like here) when you see something like "X/250", or are you actually looking at just the Pokemon collection? Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:13, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict; sorry) I don't think the 250 capacity is (necessarily) any indication of Gen 2 Pokemon in the works. It's much more plausible, given the game mechanics, that the developers wanted to give people enough capacity to own more than one of each species. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
You can also purchase a Pokémon Storage Upgrade for 200 PokéCoins, so I really don't think this is a good argument. --SnorlaxMonster 07:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Eevee evolution

People suggest that it depends on its special move; Body Slam is Jolteon; Swift is Vaporeon and Dig is Flareon. Unfortunately, I cannot test that. Eridanus (talk) 08:19, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

See #Eeveelutions above. --SnorlaxMonster 08:25, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


Team Descriptions

I would if I could... but the descriptions of each team/faction should be listed under the Pokémon GO#Teams header.

Here they are:

Instinct (Yellow)

"Hey! The name's Spark -- the leader of Team Instinct. Pokemon are creatures with excellent intuition. I bet the secret to their intuition is related to how they're hatched. Come and join my team! You never lose when you trust your instincts!"

Mystic (Blue)

"I am Blanche, leader of Team Mystic. The wisdom of Pokemon is immeasurably deep. I am researching why it is that they evolve. With our calm analysis of every situation, we can't lose!"

Valor (Red)

"I'm Candela -- Team Valor's leader! Pokemon are stronger than humans, and they're warmhearted, too! I'm researching ways to enhance Pokemon's natural power in the pursuit of true strength. There's no doubt that the Pokemon our team have trained at the strongest in battle! Are you ready?"

- Thanks, Rmkane (talk) 15:32, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

added!--PannenkoekenNL (talk) 20:06, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


In the opening description about the teams, I think it would be good to mention that they are Professor Willow's research teams, each specializing in a certain area of Pokemon study. Usually, "team" in Pokemon refers to an organization/gang, so I feel it's something worth explaining for clarification. --Shinobi (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Add pictures of items

Could someone add the missing pictures of items, I don't have the permissions to do so. They can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/XNJOA --PannenkoekenNL (talk) 07:56, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Official Glossary Images

The official Pokémon Go glossary has some images that are missing: http://imgur.com/a/bT3Cs Although, some of the images are not transparent... I don't know why, but wouldn't the official site have better images?

-- Rmkane (talk) 14:25, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Combat Point calculation

In regards to combat points, or CP, research and a theory I'm developing will allow us to start quantifying the game much better. We should soon have modifiers for each Pokémon in the game, but we will likely have to do our own research, which will be difficult since randomness is implemented in the calculations. I don't think I can gather much data with my location, but I'd love to crunch numbers if anyone else wants to do a bunch of powerups on each species. Let me know what you guys think. - unsigned comment from PlatypusVenom (talkcontribs)

Missing Key Item Images

In regards to the 'Key Items' table:

Name Image Location Dimensions
Camera File:GO_Camera MySrPFv.png 98 x 98
Egg Incubator ∞ File:GO_Incubator_∞ AWS4U2I.png 118 x 118

If anyone can find better quality/resolution images, direct them here. Could someone upload these since I do not have the authority, because I have yet to meet the requirements to do so. -- Rmkane (talk) 12:57, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I've uploaded these. --SnorlaxMonster 13:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

NA release date?

I don't get this, was Pokémon GO release in USA at the same time as Canada or is it not released there at all? Or was it released in USA at the 6 July and later in Canada? This is confusing because it said USA only on the page at first but then the USA only was removed. Was that because it was released in Canada or what? --Raltseye prata med mej 13:17, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

For consistency with other pages, the infobox lists the date of first availability within each region. The detailed, country-by-country breakdown is better served by prose than by the infobox. --Abcboy (talk) 13:58, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Mystic Emblem is Wrong

The colors and the bottom of the hexagon are incorrect. Along with other things such as the curves of the feathers.

Here is a high quality version that uses the correct colors and hexagon: http://imgur.com/QCo3SFa

It is exported at 1,200 x 1,200 just like the other team's emblems. If you require the SVG, just leave a message on my talk page.

References

-- Thanks, Rmkane (talk) 05:15, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

-- Rmkane (talk) 05:22, 14 July 2016 (UTC) (Need this, cause the reminder tells me that it's required…

Thanks, I've uploaded it. Checking the others against screenshots, Valor appears to have the wrong colors (the ring should be light red) and Instinct appears to have incorrect transparency (the beak is white). --SnorlaxMonster 05:34, 14 July 2016 (UTC)


I went ahead and exported all the vectors from the second reference above: http://imgur.com/a/yZs6P If you notice, in the current Instinct emblem, the Zapdos' points on its head are non-symmetrical. You will also see the color correction for the ring around the Moltres.

-- Thanks, Rmkane (talk) 10:35, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Cached Images

Since I cannot edit the main article, can someone change the size of the thumbnails of the team emblems? Right now, they are cached (on the CDN server) as the out-of date; fan-art versions at 50px. They are an eyesore, and I think that a more standard resolution of 48px or 64px would be more appropriate.

-- Thanks, Rmkane (talk) 14:55, 14 July 2016 (UTC) -- Rmkane (talk) 14:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)


Can someone please update the cached images for the teams? The fan-art logos should not be appearing anymore. Updating the size of the images should create a new cached thumbnail. Thanks, Rmkane (talk) 18:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

The latest versions are showing up for me. Try purging your browser cache. --SnorlaxMonster 05:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


Well, I have tried four different browsers, and they are still using the incorrect thumbnail. This is not a browser cache issue. The CDN does not know that the image has been updated.

Team_Instinct_emblem.png Team_Mystic_emblem.png Team_Valor_emblem.png
What is Displayed
(cached at 50px)
50px-Team_Instinct_emblem.png 50px-Team_Mystic_emblem.png 50px-Team_Valor_emblem.png
What Should be Displayed
(48px or any other suitable size)
Team Instinct emblem.png Team Mystic emblem.png Team Valor emblem.png

These are direct links to the images that are stored on the site's server. Could someone just adjust the size of the image to 48px? -- Rmkane (talk) 12:17, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Fixed table, made thumbnail discrepancy more apparent. -- Rmkane (talk) 15:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

I can't really tell any difference between the thumbnails you have in the table above; it's hardly an eyesore. It'll be fine for about a month until it naturally ages out. We have a strict policy of not messing with image sizes solely to cheat these sorts of caching issues. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:09, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Gaining Experience

You can gain experience from visiting a pokestop, even if your bag is full. You appear to gain 50xp anytime you visit one and your bag is full.

I think that should be mentioned more explicitly in the table listing the ways of gaining xp, most likely attached to the 3 items or less case.

"Visit a PokéStop (3 items or less) 50" --> change to something like --> "Visit a PokéStop (3 items or less, including full bag) 50"

Ectropy (talk) 18:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. I've made a change in that spirit. --SnorlaxMonster 03:51, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh wait it may actually be possible to earn more than 50xp when spinning a poke stop if your bag is full. I just spun one and it appeared to give me 150xp. We may need to have people do some experimenting to figure out what exactly the behavior is. Ectropy (talk) 12:15, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Missing Max Potion Description

Name Image Unlock requirements Description
Max Potion GO Max Potion.png Level 25 A spray-type medicine for treating wounds. It will completely restore the max HP of a single Pokémon.

-- Rmkane (talk) 10:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Release dates, Europe

Why does this article say that Pokémon GO will come out in France and Russian in 2016 and rest of Europe soon? What is the difference between soon and in 2016? --Raltseye prata med mej 10:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

The Pokemon.com sites in those languages specified a release date of 2016, while the official GO site and the other articles referenced only state "coming soon". The 2016 date is technically more specific than "soon", which is why it's noted for the relevant locations. --Abcboy (talk) 11:41, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


Pokémon GO Compatibility Typo

"Android N will not *be* supported until the official Android release."

-- Rmkane (talk) 13:02, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Fixed!--PannenkoekenNL (talk) 13:11, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
With 0.29.2 released, the section in question should now be changed to (only) say this: 'Android devices: Android 4.4 to Android N, preferred resolution of 720×1280 pixels (not optimized for tablet)' and the line about 'official Android release' removed entirely. Skybunny (talk) 17:21, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
The help center still states that Android N will not be supported until its official release. --SnorlaxMonster 09:44, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Player Levels?

Besides for bonus items and item unlocks. What do they do? - unsigned comment from Zage (talkcontribs)

Please add the Player's Guide at the top of the page

This page, which describes the general setup of Pokémon GO, and the Pokémon GO Player's Guide serve different purposes. Since, especially as this game is new, not all game mechanics are well explained by Niantic in any central place, much less in the game itself (but said mechanics don't really belong on this page), the player's guide should really be featured at the top of the page, probably as a disambiguation style remark. E.g. 'For specifics on how to play Pokémon GO, see the Pokémon GO Player's Guide. The Player's Guide should also be linked (or one of its subsections linked) when discussion becomes too specific for this page. Such as, 'For more about how Gym prestige works, see (...)'.

Thanks! Skybunny (talk) 17:16, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

We don't typically link to our walkthroughs from a game's main page. Doing so on this page would mean we'd have to do it on every other game's page, too. Which might not be a bad thing, but it would require Editorial Board approval... Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:50, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
We do link them in the "See also" section (as we do on this article), but since you seem to not have noticed it, maybe it's not prominent enough... However, for Pokémon GO, the guide is currently linked in the sitenotice, which should help people find it if they are looking for it. --SnorlaxMonster 17:00, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I definitely see your point, and I guess that's fair. What I was thinking of is an italicized note (that come to think of it, would be on all general game pages, yes), like the one in Template:PokémonPrevNextHead:
For specifics of the gameplay of \{\{PAGENAME\}\}, see the [[Appendix:{{{PAGENAME}}} Player's Guide]].
I'm not really strongly wedded to the idea, but if you think it's a good idea to have, maybe it is worth pushing up the chain. Best! Skybunny (talk) 19:32, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Game Data: Sprites, Items, and Moves

Moves List http://pastebin.com/YN0yTpeL
Items List http://pastebin.com/nRZu1BCD
Sprites (1-150) http://imgur.com/a/0xJAW
Sprite (Mew) http://imgur.com/joXYcPo
Spritesheet https://postimg.org/image/t370wkyfl/ or http://imgur.com/wA1i2qd
Sprite CSS http://pastebin.com/dHJuuw9B
All Sprites Rendered http://rmkane.com/experiment/pokemon/go_sprites/
References

-- Rmkane (talk) 19:59, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

On game publishers and developers

I'm not quite sure if I ever understood this, or if it's just a fuzzy definition per se. In general, here's what I believe:

  • The publisher is whoever releases the game, who manufactures it, ships it etc.
  • The developer is whoever makes the game, who programs it, who makes up the game concept (?), who tests it etc.

As a rule of thumb, publishers' names/trademarks can typically be found somewhere on the box of physical games, that of developers in the title screen in-game (plus, there may be overlaps). Now, apps aren't really shipped, so here, publishers are those listed as "developers" in the app stores (as crazy as it sounds). Developers are still who made the game, it's just that they are more likely also publishers.

That said, I trust Bulbapedia more than another billion article wiki (that lists Niantic as developer and The Pokémon Company as publisher) on that matter. So, could anyone clear that up for me? Cause from the app's title screens, I'd say developers are either Niantic+Pokémon, or Niantic+Pokémon+Nintendo+Creatures+Game Freak. (Also, I like how it's phrased in the opening paragraph.) Nescientist (talk) 11:24, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Ok, seems to be tough. Well, could someone at least explain our current choice of publishers and/or developers? Nescientist (talk) 12:31, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
So, after discussion, the other billion article wiki now lists Niantic as both developer and publisher. I've changed the article accordingly, while still prominently stating that it's a collaboration in the opening paragraph. Nescientist (talk) 13:51, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Game availability

We may want a separate section in this article distinguishing 'Countries in which it is possible to download the game' (released) and 'Countries in which it is possible to play the game at all', which as it turns out Niantic seems to be able to turn off on a geographic basis.

Niantic does not allow playing the game at all in South Korea, with the exception of the city of Sokcho, on the northeastern tip of the country. (Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/asia/south-korea-pokemon-sokcho/ ). What I don't know is if this means Niantic simply turns off the ability to log in if your GPS is reported in a geographically blocked area, or if "there just aren't any gyms or Pokéstops in 'blocked areas'", which is probably a distinction worth researching. Also, if it's true in South Korea, it's probably true in other places. Skybunny (talk) 16:46, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

There just aren't any Gyms, PokéStops and Pokémon in the blocked areas.--PannenkoekenNL (talk) 07:50, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Region-exclusive pokémon

Name Location
Mr Mime Europe
Farfetch'd Asia
Kangaskhan Australia/New Zealand
Tauros North American

-- Seiya Loveless (talk) 10:30, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Error moves

Prevously I added to Trivia sections of various articles where Pokemon in Pokemon Go were able to learn moves they couldn't in the main series, it was all removed. Since 20th August, however, Niantic have removed these moves from thos Pokemon and given them moves that they can learn in the main series which seems to suggest they thought them a mistake. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 09:28, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

These have already been noted on the Game move errors page, and the relevant parts are noted in the GO sections of the respective Pokemon/move page. While it is interesting, I don't think that it really needs additional trivia mentions (staff seems to think so too). VioletPumpkin (talk) 14:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
a, I see. Sorry, I forgot all about that page. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 18:04, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Release schedule

My edit to add in China to the release schedule was removed, so I want to provide my citation here. In his TechCrunch interview on September 13, John Hanke said they're still working on rolling out Pokemon Go at "India, South Asia, parts of Africa, China." Here's the VOD of that interview:

https://techcrunch.com/video/john-hanke-of-niantic-labs-has-pokemon-plans/57d86c3e1c689950401abaf5/

Time stamp is 4:00.

- Homu (talk) 21:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the source. However, at 4:00 at least, he's just saying that they haven't rolled out there. I don't see that as a confirmation they will, especially as he continues to say how they're somewhat continuously in contact with governments right after. Nescientist (talk) 13:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon Go India

Pokémon Go was released in India on December 14, 2016. Coin prices are ₹60 for 100, ₹300 for 550, ₹620 for 1200, ₹1200 for 2500, ₹2500 for 5200, and ₹6200 for 14500 Pokecoins. - Budugoo (talk) 08:14, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon GO in Russia

Since Pokémon GO wasn't released in 2016 but the site still states that it will be released last year, should we change it to upcoming or just leave it? --Raltseye prata med mej 19:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Ditto

Ditto can now be found disguised as Sentret. Recently caught a "Sentret" that revealed itself soon after. DarkShinyLugia (talk) 21:44, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

That's already on the page. glikglak 21:48, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Japanese names in the opening sentence

Should we maybe not do that for GO-related articles (and by extension, for anything that doesn't originate in Japan), move it to "In other languages" where all other languages are? I agree that for most things on here, Japanese names are more canon somehow than any other language (and may have been mistranslated or lost some connotation), so they somehow "deserve" such prominent placement, but when the original language is English and everything is basically translated to Japanese, I believe maybe we shouldn't emphasize their Japanese names in the same way. Nescientist (talk) 16:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Loading screens

Niantic has made available, HD versions of the Halloween, Holiday, New Years, and Spring loading screens.

You can check them out on their official blog. — Rmkane (talk) 11:53, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Niantic just published their Raid Battle loading screen on their blog linked above. All the images are HD or higher resolution. — Rmkane (talk) 13:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Missing images

I don't have permission to do that, so can someone upload missing images for Premier Ball and Raid Passes? They can be found here: http://imgur.com/gallery/zhZNV --Kubson302 (talk) 11:24, 21 June 2017 (UTC)