Talk:Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!

Mainline game confirmed

It is confirmed that it's a core/mainline game on the press conference (at the 17:25 timestamp). It is NOT a side/spin-off game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ_qtyOa5Dg Josephvb10 (talk) 04:39, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

The video says "mainline" and not "core". They may not necessarily be the same thing. This tweet might suggest that Let's Go is not quite equivalent to the likes of actual core games like XY, SM, etc.

Certainly "mainline" seems very similar to "core". But there's enough odd about this (that they didn't actually say "core", and that Let's Go doesn't yet seem to be what a standard core game would be) to hold off on jumping to that conclusion. We can see what other info arises down the line. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:02, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

At 40:13 they say that the 2019 game is another core series game for Nintendo Switch, so they also use the term core for Let's Go. Josephvb10 (talk) 05:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, looks like. We're just a little thrown by it not being a classic new core game. We're trying to figure out what's really best for now. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:41, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I personally don't think these are core series games, based on the aforementioned statements we've gotten. I hope the higher-ups can come to an agreement on that soon enough. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 06:23, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

It's certainly possible that these games are "the third paired versions of Generation VII" as stated in the article, but where's the proof? The line "another core series game" (in reference to the 2019 pair) does not, in any way, confirm Let's Go is part of the core series. (In addition, do we even have proof that they're part of Generation VII?) bwburke94 (talk) 22:06, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I pretty much made this account to say this. Ishihara confirmed that these games are part of a new generation here Sir Cookie (talk) 00:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit: And just noticed I misread the quote, but still going to leave the link here Sir Cookie (talk) 00:02, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

I may also point out that these games don't really fit the criteria to be main-series games within Gen 7. They only contain a limited number of Pokemon, they're on a separate system from SM/USUM, they have different mechanics; more like those of Pokemon Go - A spin off title and actual main series games from 2019 have been described as "core" by the Pokemon Company whereas Lets's Go games haven't. Correct me if I'm wrong but they aren't really officially Main Series Games. Ice Cream 10:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

If you watch the conference they're announced at, they're referred to as new "main series" games a number of times. Slowbro4pres (talk) 13:44, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I am aware of that. Although, we don't know if these will be main games as such. They're titled "Main Series" but not "core series". Differences include that core series are BW, XY, ORAS, SM etc. Colosseum and XD per say could be considered "Main Series" but not "Core Series". A thing that main series games includes is to be compatible with other games within its gen; and LGP+LGE seem to lack that. Also, I think the Main Series Games and "Core Series" games possible refereed are the Pokemon 2019 games, which are mentioned as "Core Games". LGP+LGE are not. Again, could be wrong, but it does seem logical. Ice Cream 19:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I concur. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Colosseum and XD are NOT main series. They have never been referred as such. Core series and main series is exactly the same thing. You can easily difference core games because they use the full "Pocket Monsters" (like Let's Go/SM/XY/etc) title in Japanese instead of "Pokémon" (like XD/Colosseum and every other spin-off). Josephvb10 (talk) 22:58, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

You could make that argument valid. However, despite them saying so, I am still yet to be convinced since these games don't have very much in common with the other titles. Ice Cream 05:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I just read this interview. From what I get from these questions, it seems like the Let's Go games are considered a different series next to the core series. Especially this one in which Masuda refers to the Let's Go game as "another Pokémon series".

Just to quickly follow up on that, I know you can't talk too much about the 2019 RPG but can you tell me when the decision was first made to develop that game as well as the Let's Go games? Did you decide to do LG first and then the 2019 game? And was that decision made to mitigate the risk of the more hardcore, long-term players maybe not being so into it?
Masuda: So it definitely wasn't like a risk-avoiding thing. We knew that we wanted to create another Pokémon "series", as we call them, for all the fans that have really enjoyed the games until now. But the games that we're talking about for 2019 we've been working on those for a while, the same with Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee - part of it is because there's a lot of functionality with the Nintendo Switch and we really want players to really experience what there is to offer here so, we're making two different games at the same time.
And specifically for these games, me personally I really want more kids to pick up and play with the Nintendo Switch, that's really the goal for me. 

Satsjoe (talk) 11:16, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes I think they're supposed to be a different branch of the main series, different continuity, different series etc.--DanyyelTR (talk) 09:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

From what I can tell, Nintendo doesn't consider it a mainline game. It is a spin off game for several reasons.

1. Nintendo has referred to it as "another series".
2. Only the original 151 Pokemon appear. Pokemon have never been removed.
3. There are no abilities or held items, which have been series staples since Generation III.
4. There are no wild battles or random encounters, both of which are returning in Sword and Shield.

I believe it is a spin-off and should be listed as such. I purpose we put it to a vote. Alolan Ninetales (talk) 02:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

"These games aren't spinoffs. These are core Pokémon titles." -Junichi Masuda, in the Pokémon Let's Go official guidebook. Straight from the horse's mouth. --Celadonkey (talk) 03:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Languages

Where has it been confirmed what languages these games will be playable in? It could very well be available in Brazilian Portuguese too, just like Pokémon GO. --Mine4017 (talk) 16:09, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

These are the languages it's confirmed for so far, if that changes then they can be added. --Abcboy (talk) 00:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Where were they confirmed? --Raltseye prata med mej 08:25, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Trivia error

"These games mark the first time that people can pick a female player character in a Kanto adventure." What about Leaf in FRLG? --Celadonkey 19:22, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

You're right. I totally forgot about Leaf when I wrote that piece of trivia. I have removed that point. Thanks for bringing up Leaf! Torpoleon (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

So these count as "core series", but Pokemon Colosseum & XD don't?

Why are these labeled as the core series as opposed to Colosseum & XD? Also, I'm pretty sure these games ARE spinoffs; wasn't gen 8 confirmed to be released next year? ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Colosseum and XD were described as new entries in the vein of Stadium and Stadium 2. By contrast, throughout the conference they called these games part of the main series/mainline series/etc. as mentioned above. At the moment, there isn't enough information on how significantly its gameplay differs from Yellow to justify calling it a spin-off in the face of official word. --Abcboy (talk) 00:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Also helps that Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee are being developed by Game Freak, whereas Colosseum & XD were not. Torpoleon (talk) 00:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm not too sure on this, but I think every core series game uses "ポケットモンスター" in its Japanese title, whereas spin-offs and side series games, like XD and Colosseum, use "ポケモン" instead. --Mine4017 (talk) 00:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Wow, I completely forgot I made this.

Anyway, how can this possibly count as a core series, if you can't even trade nor transfer Pokémon from gens 2 and up? ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 22:58, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

It being called a core (well, main, but same meaning) series title trumps being able to connect to previous generations. Colosseum and XD were never called core series games.--ForceFire 04:36, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

What confirms these as part of Gen VII?

Do we have any source confirming that these games are considered to be a part of Gen 7? They're on different consoles, have vastly different engines and can't communicate with the other games. I think explicitly labeling them as such is jumping the gun. Butterfreak (talk) 19:37, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

There's already a similar discussion on this above. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:09, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

The reason why they're not considered Gen 8 is because the new games in a Generation would have a brand new region, brand new Pokemon, brand new moves, characters, abilities etc. These games don't have that. Also, they would never be Gen 8 games with a limited Pokedex. They have also confirmed that Gen 8 main series games are Pokemon 2019, not these games. Ice Cream 22:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I never said they were Gen 8, I asked where the source was that says they're Gen 7. They have virtually nothing in common with the Gen 7 games. Butterfreak (talk) 19:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Generations aren't exactly an official construct, it's more of a fan thing, from my understanding. So there's not a official source, just as there isn't an official source that Diamond and Pearl are not Gen 3, or that Black and White 2 are still Gen 5. The generally accepted definition of a new generation is that if a game takes place in a new region, has a new story, and includes a significant amount of new Pokémon, it's a new generation. --Celadonkey 20:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I think Butterfreak was bringing up a possibility of them not being part of any generation. Kikugi (talk) 13:23, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

That probably comes under side games then. Ice Cream 17:10, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

They are Gen VII because there are going to be released during Gen VII. Colosseum is similar, it's labeled as Gen III because it was released during Gen III.--ForceFire 04:39, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Abilities

With all of the trailers that we have so far, do we know if the Abilities will remain in the game or have they been scrapped altogether? Kangaflora (talk) 18:35, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Version Exclusives

Why were some of the version exclusives removed? I'm pretty sure we have evidence that they are VE. (Also, I did not realize about Playerking's edit before my own.) Ice Cream 22:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Green/Leaf

The page notes that Leaf is included for the first time as a non-player character, but this character is referred to as Green in game. I propose that we create a new page for Green and include information about the unused player character from Gen I in that page entry. Leaf seems to me to be a separate character; although Green did dress as Leaf in the Pokémon Adventures manga, Crystal/Kris also dressed as Lyra and they are definitely separate characters in the main game continuity. Leaf is referred to by a different name in FR/LG, and it was heavily implied that they are not the same character by the directors of FR/LG because they said they merely took Green into consideration when designing Leaf and did not directly base her off of Green. --LavaringX (talk) 05:39, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

If we go down that rabbit hole then Blue is not Blue in FRLG but Terry instead. Kris and Lyra in the games had different clothing style and different eye and hair colour and then they specifically said Lyra was a new character, that's not the case here with Green, they share all the same visual features and wears a hybrid outfit. It's not complex. I propose we rename Leaf to Green--DanyyelTR (talk) 13:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

The official Japanese name of Leaf is Leaf and the official Japanese name of Green/Blue is Blue. It's not a rabbit hole, it's obvious evidence. It was strongly indicated during development of FR/LG that Leaf was not Green/Blue but merely inspired by her, whereas Green/Blue here in Let's Go is the real deal, based directly off of the scrapped art as an homage to the character. The outfit is not a hybrid outfit, it just has streaks of blue in it as a pun on her Japanese name. In any case, since we cannot prove that Leaf is Green, we should create separate pages until we have an official source to cite on the matter. --LavaringX (talk) 14:16, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry but are Red and Blue from FRLG inspired off the original Red and Blue or are they supposed to be the same character? Why would that be any different for Green/Leaf? Her shirt/dress has literally inverted colouring from Leaf's shirt, which makes it look like Green's orginal dress and she has practically identical bag as Leaf. What seem obvious to me is that they're supposed to be the same girl. If we don't have proof one way or the other than we should refrain from adding an extra page.--DanyyelTR (talk) 14:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

I still very much disagree, but I am willing to compromise for the sake of the wiki. --LavaringX (talk) 16:00, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

WTF? First it said I couldn't transfer shiny Pokemon, and now I can?

When I tried transferring my shiny Pinsir into Pokepark, it wouldn't let me. It literally said shiny Pokemon couldn't be transferred. After Choosen undid my edit, I went to get a screenshot of it, but this time I could without problems. Maybe because I caught a Pinsir in Let's Go Eevee in between events?

I'd test this myself, but I don't have any other shinies to transfer. Can someone please test my theory? Transfer a shiny Pokemon to Let's Go that isn't on your Pokedex yet. ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 02:01, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

I transferred a shiny dratini as soon as I got to the Pokepark with no problems, it was not in my pokedex.TheFierceStorm (talk) 18:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)