Talk:Noivern (Pokémon)

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Name

Isn't the name Noivern? GreyDragon (talk) 16:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I can't even read.

Regarding name origin, Onbān is a combination of on and wyvern (uaibān), not bang.

Also, the French name is from bruit and wyverne, and the German name is from UHF and Fafnir.--Lemonade Mouth (talk) 18:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Species

According to the press release, Noivern is the Sound Wave Pokémon.--Lemonade Mouth (talk) 18:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Origin

It appears, from the color scheme, furry ruff, and affinity for fruit, to be partially based on flying fox [1], with other features of bats added, such as the nose and large ears. The connection makes sense, since bats are commonly associated with sound because of their echolocation. Zakitano (talk) 19:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Also, due to its name in all languages and the design, it's based on a wyvern.--Darthrai (talk) 02:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Another possible origin

Due to its association with sound and the design of its ears, Noivern could possible be based of a boombox or a sub-woofer. CyberCat5555 (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


ZuBAT, GolBAT, CroBAT, WooBAT, SwooBAT, Spewpa & Noivern?'

Should it not be mentioned in the article that Noivern evolves from Spewpa, or has this not yet been confirmed. Is it also not noteworthy that so far, it is the only bat-based Pokémon without "bat" at the end of its name (excluding Spewpa. [And even if Spewpa is counted, it would still be the only bat-based Pokémon family without "bat at the end of its name"])?--ShinyPatch (talk) 22:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

...Spewpa evolves into Vivillon. Zakitano (talk) 22:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

And Gligar/Gliscor want a word with you about bat-based Pokemon without bat at the end of their name. Myzou (talk) 09:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh dear! I feel like an idiot now! I was thinking that Spewpa sounded like pupa and would be a more fitting name for a Vivillon pre-evolution! I must have read it wrong! As for Gligar and Gliscor, I did consider them, but felt that, as they are labeled "FlyScorpion" and "Fang Scorp" Pokémon, they were most likely not based on bats, and only really based on scorpions (that can fly), but then again, it is pretty obvious they are "batty" so to speak! So, in conclusion, I was stupid, and am sorry if I wasted anyone's time, I thought it was an interesting fact, but it was just arguably interesting fiction. Thanks for responding anyway Zakitano and Myzou, and clearing things up for me. Sorry about that.--ShinyPatch (talk) 15:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

fruit

We KNOW it eats fruit. So why isn't that in the diet section? 0danmaster0 (talk) 12:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Name origin

the noi bit could also be noire. It depends on the official pronouciation but for now it could be either 0danmaster0 (talk) 13:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree that it could come from noir due to its colour and the location of Kalos being France. --Ashitic (talk) 13:45, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Soundwaves=Air=Flying-type?

So I noticed that Noivern has the honor of being the first dual-typed Pokémon to have Flying as its primary type. And I don't know if Bulbapedia could give any explanation-by-reference for typing, so I thought I'd just ask this: So soundwaves are vibrations in the air, and air is associated with the Flying-type. This made me realize that it is actually pretty strange that sound is actually associated with the Normal-type (Hyper Voice, Exploud). So maybe the designers also noticed this and now want sound to be part of the Flying-type. This would explain why Noivern has Flying as its primary type, as he is more about sound than about being Dragon. Think about it: if I say 'Noivern!', would the first thing you'd say be 'sound' or 'Dragon'? So Noivern is primary the 'Sound-type' which is the 'Flying-type', which then is his primary type! Could we add this reference for its type with these few words: 'Noivern could have Flying as its primary type, because soundwaves are associated with air and Noivern's primary characteristic is sound above being Dragon.'? Nickvang (talk) 19:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

That's speculation. (Besides, while you may think "sound" immediately as a result of the "noise" in "Noivern", I didn't even realize "noise" was the source of "Noi-" for awhile because I was too focused on "-vern" = "wyvern" = Dragon. Everybody reacts to things differently, so it's faulty logic to present "it's the first thing you'd think of when you hear it" as evidence.) In any case, we don't include any justifications for other primary types that are in an odd order (everything uses Rock/Ground except the Rhyhorn family, which are Ground/Rock, for example), so I don't really see a need for this. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Weakness and Strength

Shouldn't we be able to add the weakness and strength for Noivern? Togekiss4ever (talk) 09:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)