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== Breeding ==
Breeding Issue: if Nidoqueen is unable to breed, why is there a section under the attacks saying all the moves Nidoqueen can learn from breeding? [[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]] 00:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Breeding Issue: if Nidoqueen is unable to breed, why is there a section under the attacks saying all the moves Nidoqueen can learn from breeding? [[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]] 00:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


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== Mew Glitch ==
== Mew Glitch ==


using the first trainer right of nugget bridge, you can get a nidoqueen using the fist method of the mew glitch.
using the first trainer right of nugget bridge, you can get a nidoqueen using the fist method of the mew glitch. {{unsigned|The snargret guy}}
:That's nice, but please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 03:19, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
yeah, usually I remember ([[User:The snargret guy|The snargret guy]] 23:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC))
 
== Protecting its young. ==
 
The trivia notes that although it cannot breed, it's stated to protect its young. Do you think it's biologically plausible that Nidoran evolves after birth to better protect its young? Sacrificing future fertility to focus on the first offspring? Just as a curious thing to think about. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 12:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 
== Origin  ==
 
As the female counterpount to Nidoking, Nidoqueen is based on {{wp|Baragon}}.[[User:Bennell|Bennell]] 18:57, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 
== Just...WHY? ==
 
What is the true reason that Nidorina and Nidoqueen cannot breed? Please; I need a confirmed answer. If I didn't have minimal access at home; I'd try to get ahold of pokemon.com and ask them myselves; but this mystery really bothers me. Is there even a speculated reason/theory[[User:Venus253|Venus253]] 17:35, 8 May 2012 (UTC)?
 
== Base stats, Gen VI ==
 
Several sources report that Nidoqueen's base stats have been modified in Generation 6.  They are now 90/92/87/75/85/76.  This information comes from Serebii's Pokedex and is verified by Smogon.  pikalax 20:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:Those base stats have already been listed on the page.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 20:14, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 
==Nidorina and Nidoqueen breeding==
The fact that Nidorina and Nidoqueen cannot breed is not a coding problem.
After messing with a Pokémon Diamond ROM, changed Nidorina/Nidoqueen egg group to the same of Nidorino/Nidoking and Start breeding, i found that Nidorina/Nidoqueen eggs will hatch in Nidoran(f) and Nidoran(m) =) {{unsigned|Erkyem|18:24, 15 April 2014 (UTC)}}
:The original Japanese guidebook for {{game|Red and Green|s}} apparently says they will become infertile upon evolution, according to the Undiscovered egg group trivia. It's intentional. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]])</small> 18:33, 15 April 2014 (UTC), edited 18:34, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
::Whoa, what? That's pretty damn notable. Why is this the first time I've ever heard that in all these years? --<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="white">Best</font>]]</span></font> 19:08, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
:::May be intentional, but i thought everyone should know the results of my little experiment =) [[User:Erkyem|Erkyem]] 02:07, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 
==In regards to the above discussion==
I know this section of the talk page is two or three years old now, but since nobody's pointed this out yet... it's extremely unlikely that "the original Japanese guidebook for Pokémon Red and Green" would have a mention of Nidorina/Nidoqueen's infertility in an "egg group trivia" section, considering that breeding and egg groups were features that weren't even introduced until Gold and Silver.  It's possible that some Japanese guidebook mentioned Nidorina/Nidoqueen being infertile at some point, but they're not going to be talking about egg groups in a Red/Green guide. [[User:FnrrfYgmSchnish|FnrrfYgmSchnish]] ([[User talk:FnrrfYgmSchnish|talk]]) 17:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

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Breeding

Breeding Issue: if Nidoqueen is unable to breed, why is there a section under the attacks saying all the moves Nidoqueen can learn from breeding? Darkcloud1111 00:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Because its fully unevolved form, Nidoran♀, is capable of breeding and being a hatch result. --Shiningpikablu252 00:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, but here's another question real fast. Can a Nidoran (female) give birth to Nidoran (male) because the Nidoking evolution line is completely male and one of the things I know about breeding is that the hatched pokemon will be the same as the mother. Darkcloud1111 00:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
The Nidoran clan is one of two special cases where the breeding result can be different than the mother's fully unevolved form. In this case, a Nidoran♀'s egg can indeed hatch into a Nidoran♂. The other special case is Illumise, which can have a Volbeat child.
Contrary to popular belief, a Miltank cannot have a Tauros child. --Shiningpikablu252 01:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Tauros and Miltank can indeed have a child. The resulting egg will always yield a Miltank, however. - unsigned comment from Skaisdead (talkcontribs)

Fangs

Does nidoqueen have fangs or not? Gen 1 no Gen 2 yes Gen 3 yes Gen 4 no. All 3d games, yes. I'm pretty sure it does, but i'm not sure.¬.¬ 18:32, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

The art for Giovanni's Nidoqueen also has fangs and it is done by Ken Sugimori, but none of the other ones have fangs, just beaks--011284mm 22:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

That's why i'm confused.¬.¬ User:the nido king 20:41, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Mew Glitch

using the first trainer right of nugget bridge, you can get a nidoqueen using the fist method of the mew glitch. - unsigned comment from The snargret guy (talkcontribs)

That's nice, but please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). 梅子 03:19, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

yeah, usually I remember (The snargret guy 23:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC))

Protecting its young.

The trivia notes that although it cannot breed, it's stated to protect its young. Do you think it's biologically plausible that Nidoran evolves after birth to better protect its young? Sacrificing future fertility to focus on the first offspring? Just as a curious thing to think about. --PLA 12:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Origin

As the female counterpount to Nidoking, Nidoqueen is based on Baragon.Bennell 18:57, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Just...WHY?

What is the true reason that Nidorina and Nidoqueen cannot breed? Please; I need a confirmed answer. If I didn't have minimal access at home; I'd try to get ahold of pokemon.com and ask them myselves; but this mystery really bothers me. Is there even a speculated reason/theoryVenus253 17:35, 8 May 2012 (UTC)?

Base stats, Gen VI

Several sources report that Nidoqueen's base stats have been modified in Generation 6. They are now 90/92/87/75/85/76. This information comes from Serebii's Pokedex and is verified by Smogon. pikalax 20:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Those base stats have already been listed on the page. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 20:14, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Nidorina and Nidoqueen breeding

The fact that Nidorina and Nidoqueen cannot breed is not a coding problem. After messing with a Pokémon Diamond ROM, changed Nidorina/Nidoqueen egg group to the same of Nidorino/Nidoking and Start breeding, i found that Nidorina/Nidoqueen eggs will hatch in Nidoran(f) and Nidoran(m) =) - unsigned comment from Erkyem (talkcontribs) 18:24, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

The original Japanese guidebook for Pokémon Red and Green apparently says they will become infertile upon evolution, according to the Undiscovered egg group trivia. It's intentional. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 18:33, 15 April 2014 (UTC), edited 18:34, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Whoa, what? That's pretty damn notable. Why is this the first time I've ever heard that in all these years? --TheVeryBest 19:08, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
May be intentional, but i thought everyone should know the results of my little experiment =) Erkyem 02:07, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

In regards to the above discussion

I know this section of the talk page is two or three years old now, but since nobody's pointed this out yet... it's extremely unlikely that "the original Japanese guidebook for Pokémon Red and Green" would have a mention of Nidorina/Nidoqueen's infertility in an "egg group trivia" section, considering that breeding and egg groups were features that weren't even introduced until Gold and Silver. It's possible that some Japanese guidebook mentioned Nidorina/Nidoqueen being infertile at some point, but they're not going to be talking about egg groups in a Red/Green guide. FnrrfYgmSchnish (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)