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::::::::I was responding to Neumannz's suggestion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:24, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::I was responding to Neumannz's suggestion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:24, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, my bad. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:27, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, my bad. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:27, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
{{ident}}That's fine. What about the second suggestion of just renaming the episode articles from the new season? And the suggestion of renaming ''this'' article to "Seventh series"?  --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 15:01, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

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The series is more based on Pokémon Go and Pokémon Masters than SwSh

Just thought you aught to put the mobile games in front of the Gen 8 core game series since the new series will be promoting all of the regions than SwSh. Cynthia149 (talk) 11:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

You're going to need an external source to back that up. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 11:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
I can already think of one, the new character Go. The description of his goals to complete his Pokedex and capture Mew. The way they will travel to all the regions in the Pokémon world (And likely meet the Gym Leaders, strong trainers, E4s and Champions in each Region) instead of just going through and showcasing Galar like the previous series. Since Ash would represent the mainline games, Go seems to represent Go, so to attract the people that play the mobile games to watch the anime. Cynthia149 (talk) 11:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
When I say "external source", I mean an interview from the production staff that explicitly confirms that. Having a character named Go could mean anything in the eyes of the writers. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Two-letter Abbreviation for this series

So, I'd like to have a discussion about what this site is gonna do about that. "NS" (for "New series"), "SS" (for "Shin series", but also works as "Sword & Shield"), or PM (for "Pocket Monsters") are ideas I've had. --TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 23:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

"NS" sounds like the best option until we learn an official title for this series. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:04, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Given the episodes aren't going to air before we have a proper series title, there's no point in figuring out episcodes right now. Once there's a title, we'll work on them. If, by slim chance, the first episode does air prior to a proper title, any epicode we assign it will be temporary. If it never gets a proper title, we'll worry about that then. Kai * the Arc Toraph 01:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
It's not getting a "proper series title" besides just Pocket Monsters. They've said several times that they're removing the subtitle for this series.--TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 04:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Opening up the discussion again, why is the abbreviation SS if it's not even entirely based on Sword & Shield? Is the "shin series" thing actually how they refer to it in Japan or is it just a way to justify the double meaning of SS? I just think SS is a bit counterintuitive. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
I'll have to agree. Plus, it doesn't even seem like we'll be getting a new series after this, judging by the format of this series. If Generation IX ever does come rolling around, they'll just implement it somehow into this series, and so on and so forth. I think "NS" is the perfect episcode for this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Page Title

Why not name the series Pokémon (2019)? That's what most of the other forums are calling it. It's been confirmed that this is the official name for the series as the anime's Twitter page has repeated several times that this series would have the same name as the original series in 1997. - unsigned comment from Alola adventurer (talkcontribs)

We don't call the original series "Pokémon" even though that's the official title. We need some sort of title to fulfill the "series" quota, with or without the core series game titles. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 05:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Koharu as a main character

Where was it confirmed that Koharu would be a main character? None of the sources I'm reading have ever clarified on that. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Rename the title of the series

A more appropriate title would be Pocket Monsters (2019). - unsigned comment from Panky.. (talkcontribs)

We don't call the original series "Pocket Monsters" even though that's the official title. We need some sort of title to fulfill the "series" quota, with or without the core series game titles. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 22:27, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
But I don't get why we should follow a "quora" specifically for this occasion, when there's several arbitrary decisions around it. Pocket Monsters have the "EP" epicode instead of "RG", while for some reason Bulbapedia tries to force the Sword and Shield initials for this series all the while this series in particular is not even entirely based on said games. The "shin series" thing seems like a made-up explanation to justify another meaning for "SS", as no one in Japan calls it like that in the first place. Even the title provided in the article, 新無印編 new unnamed saga, is nowhere near as commonly used as ポケットモンスター (2019) Pocket Monsters (2019). "New series" doesn't even match the "SS" epicode either. The "new series" will stop being new at some point; in fact you could argue it's not new, it's the "current" one. Most people refer to this series as Pocket Monsters (2019), or PM, PM (2019), etc, for short. I agree that this should be renamed to "Pocket Monsters (2019)". If for some reason the first series being named "original series" is a problem, then we could rename that one to "Pocket Monsters (1997)" as well. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 16:41, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
Yes, there must be a quota, because it'd be weird if every other series has the same format for a title and then there's this: "Pokémon (2019)" or "Pocket Monsters (2019)". What do you suggest we rename the Advanced Generation, Diamond & Pearl, Best Wishes, XY, and Sun & Moon series to? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 01:50, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
I think that there should be consistency, yes, but with moderation. If an official name exist, we should use it. "Pocket Monster (2019)" seems to be the closest we can get at the moment. Also, yeah, New series will stop being new at some point, if already hasn't, so it's a silly name we shouldn't use for that matter. --Raltseye prata med mej 00:26, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
What about the other series, though? What're are we going to do with their names? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 02:24, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
What about them? Why can't they be called "Xx Series"? --Raltseye prata med mej 00:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Because you want the original and new series to be renamed "Pokémon" and "Pokémon 2019" and the others are just going to be called Advanced Generation series, Diamond & Pearl series, and so on and so forth. It would look strange. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 01:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
I didn't say anything about the original series, but the current name for this series does not look right one bit. That was rather my point. But, how about we just skip the series part entirely? That way no-one stands out. --Raltseye prata med mej 01:39, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Honestly, I'm way too used to the series format, so I disagree. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 01:44, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Honestly, you being used to something is not an argument. We should always use what's either official or the least confusing. Imo we should never have made up things like this in the first place. --Raltseye prata med mej 15:51, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Are we strongly against numbering the series? We could leave all of the article titles the same except for this one ("New series" becomes "Seventh series), and if we need to keep the episode article titles consistent you could say, for example, EP001 would be 1S001, AG001 would be 2S001, XY001 would be 5S001, etc., leading to SS001 becoming 7S001. Heck, how bad would it REALLY be if every other series is left alone and we only change this one to 7S###? --Neumannz (talk) 16:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Wouldn't "reboot series" make more sense? Me, Hurray! (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Is it really a reboot if it is still continuing the previous continuity? --Neumannz (talk) 17:42, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Not at all. --Raltseye prata med mej 23:19, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
We should've thought about what the titles should've been a long time ago, then. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:19, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
We are not going to rename every single episode article. That is something that is not going to happen.--ForceFire 07:41, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I wasn't talking about individual episodes, I was talking about series titles. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I was responding to Neumannz's suggestion.--ForceFire 08:24, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Oh, my bad. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:27, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Template:IdentThat's fine. What about the second suggestion of just renaming the episode articles from the new season? And the suggestion of renaming this article to "Seventh series"? --Neumannz (talk) 15:01, 18 December 2019 (UTC)