Talk:NegaiShipping

oh no! all the hints i found for negaishipping got wiped off the page. also the external link i posted mentioned those hints tooMash4eva 05:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

The Project Shipping leader deemed them all non-hints. --ケンジのガール 06:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

thanks for answering my question. too bad they didn't count as hints but that's ok Mash4eva 15:37, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Looks like Japanese fans use サトアイ (SatoAi) for this shipping's portmanteau. Should we add it? --Obscurites 19:07, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering...

Why is saving not a hint? It's mentioned in PokéShipping when Misty saves Ash from drowning and ContestShipping when May saves Drew from drowning. And it's also present in countless other ships.

I don't care if it's not there. I'm just wondering why it's in those articles but can't be in this one. --ケンジのガール 18:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

The bullrush saves that get people out of danger don't count toward anything; that's for action's sake, not for anything overtly romantic. Any instance of that should be removed. Other instances of being saved are dependent on the context of the scene itself. And in the case of Iris saving Zuggy from its poison status...how does that relate? It's her character. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 23:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

If that's the case does Iris helping Dent's Pansage fall under the same rule? --Gohan5 03:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it would. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 03:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

What I meant to say...

Hit the return button by mistake. Iris calls Ash a "little kid" nearly everything he doesn't know about. Just because it was about love does not mean it is a hint. And he wasn't even angry with Trip at the moment to count that he stopped himself to console Iris. --ケンジのガール 02:30, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, the other episode about love and couples was a little bit of a stretch. I still believe that his consoling Iris counts, though. Gohan5 02:38, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

How so? The friends always ask what the matter is when something is distressing them. Because Trip was there? Again, Ash was not angry with him. It would be different if Ash knelt down beside Iris and put a hand on her shoulder and if he said something like "Don't worry, everything will be okay". That would be consoling. But all he did was bend over a bit and asked if she was all right. There wasn't even a real sensitive tone about it. --ケンジのガール 02:46, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I think it is significant, because although it wasn't overly consoling like convincing May to continue her journey, he does get Iris to calm down. In return, Iris opens up to him and shares another part of her life, which up until recently, she has done a good job of keeping hidden. Gohan5 02:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

How do you know that she calmed down because he talked to her? She most likely did so because Vanillite was gone. And over time, she has been opening up to and sharing parts of her life with both Ash and Cilan. Cilan just wasn't there to hear it this time. --ケンジのガール 03:13, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't, it's only speculation like everything else in every other non-canon ship. I just think that it deserves to stay for significance and Luna Tiger-san didn't seem to have anything to say after doing numerous cleanups of this page. In the end, it's only speculation and may not even be relevant at the end of the series or even a few months from now, so why not let it stay as is? Gohan5 03:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

ArcToraphim does not always watch every episode so she might leave things here because she didn't have a chance to go over them. I even rewatched it a couple of times and could find no evidence of her consoling her. There is a clear difference of consoling and just wondering if one is okay. Which happens all the time among Ash and his friends. --ケンジのガール 03:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I rewatched it too and Iris doesn't calm down until Ash asks her if she is all right, despite Trip already returning his Vanillite to its Pokéball and moving on. I think that should be enough to be called consoling, plus she looks grateful to Ash for expressing concern for her. Gohan5 04:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Aiiie. Okay, hold on. *looks into it* If it doesn't seem to go one way or the other, the hint will be hidden, and then begins the painstakingly wait for the dub. Fair? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 13:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

That's not consoling. While Iris might have calmed down after Ash asking if she was all right, it's not to say she didn't know Vanillite was gone until he asked. Because right after, she says, "Yokatta," and I don't think she would have said that after Ash asking if she was all right, if she knew Vanillite was already gone. Not a hint (especially not a hint on Ash's side). As for cleaning up the article, I generally try and trust the judgment of people who add things for episodes that just came out (being they likely know what's going on in said new episode more than I do). Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 14:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for stepping in, I hope we didn't give you too much trouble. I don't know about ガール-san, but I enjoy these discussions. It helps to keep me grounded as well as makes me a better shipper and page editor. Thanks again. Gohan5 19:35, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Quick note:

Could it be noted that as Iris got to know Ash she started to gain more respect for him, while she got more visibly annoyed with Cilan the more she got to know him? Waterninja12345 (talk) 12:12, 31 August 2014 (UTC)