Talk:Necrozma (Pokémon)

Legendary Trio

I know this won't happen immediately, in fact it won't happen (probably) until at least the next Pokemon game release, but I figured I'd spark a discussion.

Is Necrozma a part of a trio(???) with Solgaleo and Lunala? (Rather, will Necrozma be added as a trio with them or will we wait until whenever?)

Really my only piece of evidence is that 3rdlegendary-770x562.png links to a picture of Necrozma: [1] if anyone has anything else add on.

It seems to me that GAMEFREAK has said that it's the 3rd legendary in the trio. But who knows, we've not accepted GAMEFREAK's word in the past, so... yeah. ----Celadonkey 01:17, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Just because it's the "third Legendary Pokémon" doesn't mean anything. Mewtwo is Kanto's fourth Legendary Pokémon, but that doesn't say anything about its relationship to the Legendary birds. --Abcboy (talk) 03:56, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Going by that, then Cosmoem would be our third legendary. Or Tapu Bulu. In fact, Necrozma is the LAST legendary in Gen VII, and there are definitely more than three. We don't have to make the change now, but I think GF's made it pretty clear.

But, like I said, there have been times where we don't take GF's word as official evidence in the past. ----Celadonkey 13:32, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

As you yourself just noted, there are plenty more than three Legendaries in Gen VII*. It would be total speculation for us to say (1) that the "3rdlegendary" name of the asset indicates being part of a trio, rather than some other meaning, (2) which other Legendaries it's part of a trio with, and (3) that this is in any way official or canonically supported. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:36, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Like I said earlier, we don't have to put it in immediately. But realistically, what other legendaries could Necrozma be part of a trio with? Or what else could "3rdlegendary" mean? I feel like we are grasping to find that it is not a part of a trio. And also, I would count this as being official support, considering it's on the Sun and Moon website. ----Celadonkey 18:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

There's not enough here to reliably conclude that Necrozma is part of a trio. We can wait just fine until there's plain word that it is, not just a few hasty conclusions from scant evidence. You may be right. You may not be. There's not enough to reliably say which it is yet. It won't hurt anyone to just wait. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I know, but some people seem to be so eager to dismiss this kind of thing. ----Celadonkey 18:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

So...the prerelease art for Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon shows Solgaleo and Lunaala with Necrozma parts fused onto them. If that doesn't confirm confirm the trio, I'm not sure what does. Octaazacubane (talk) 16:31, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Looking back on my messages here... I apologizing for being so... frustrating.

With that being said, I think the new forms, especially as shown in this diagram, prove that Necrozma is indeed part of a legendary grouping with Lunala and Solgaleo. --Celadonkey 23:44, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

We won't know until the game is released and it is confirmed that they are a trio. It's obvious, yes. But have patience.--ForceFire 04:20, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Cry

Necrozma's cry shares an audio characteristic with the other Ultra Space Pokémon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ0-Mpj2hNM KrytenKoro (talk) 03:18, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Grammar

"Necrozma could be based off the concept of prisms and light refraction." Based on. Not based off.Arkz (talk) 01:11, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Updating Necrozma Page

Today we got official news on the Mascot Pokemon of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon as two fusion/alternative forms. So should we know update and include the forms on Necrozma page and Pokemon forme page? We have proof now thanks to CoroCoro. --Jacob Kogan (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

The staff will do it when they do it. Be patient. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:55, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Phases

In the trailer, doesn't Necrozma change phases like Solgaleo and Lunala? You can observe this phase change when Dawn Wings Necrozma uses Moongeist Beam. Can this be added to the page? Elbunnies (talk) 13:51, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Carbonado

Adding onto Necrozma's possible origins, perhaps its physical appearance is inspired by carbonado, also known as "black diamonds", which are theorized to have originated from outer space in one way or another, whether by meteoroid collision or, more relevantly to Necrozma's other possible origins, the interior of an exploding star. Eskay64 (talk) 06:15, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Artwork

We should use the stock art for DW/DM Necrozma, instead of the box art:

File:DW Necrozma.png over , File:DM Necrozma.PNG over

It's like Kyurem... we use its official stock art over its box art . --Celadonkey 18:07, 4 January 2018 (UTC)