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Previous discussions

Problems with main page

I've been having a few issues with the main page. I can't click on the 'discussion', 'view source', 'history' or 'watch' buttons. Those buttons work on most other pages, so as far as I know, it's just this page. Also, these errors only occurred after the update. Cacnea7642 16:00, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Everything seems to be working fine on my end. Does anyone else seem to be having this problem? --Pokemaster97 16:30, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Are you using Google Chrome? Because I am having the same issue with Chrome but it seems to be working fine in other browsers, which is very weird since I never had such problem with Chrome in the past. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 17:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Firefox won't let me click on any of the main page tabs other than article. --Charlie (talk) 17:50, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
After a bit of investigation, I think I've found and fixed the problem. Because of where the fixes were (i.e. not on the page itself but other pages that this depends on) it may take some time for the fix to actually take effect on your end. If it's still not working after giving it a day clearing your cache, let me know. Werdnae (talk) 23:44, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
It's all working again now Cacnea7642 15:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
At the end of the page, where the boxes appear (Enciclopediae Pokémonis and Nintendo Independent wikis), the reference to Bulbapedia is a redirect. As far as I know, it's a little stupid to have a link leading us to the same page! TheOriginalOne 10:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't see what you mean TheOriginalOne. That link to Bulbapedia is linking to the home page of our site, if it didn't link to the mainpage (where we already are) then what would it link to? --Pokemaster97 16:10, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
It doesn't make sense to have a page linking to itself, so I think we should put the word "Bulbapedia" in bold, without linking to anything; the bold sign would indicate the users that they're already on the page. TheOriginalOne 14:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


Can we make a ``Notable Quotes`section? TeamPlasmaN1212 (talk) 21:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC) On second thught, blast that. TeamPlasmaN1212 (talk) 18:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I meant thought. TeamPlasmaN1212 (talk) 18:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

You do know you could have just edited what you said rather than making more clutter? BisumitoIsSnazzy (talk) 18:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Just curious;

On the main page, it states that Bulbapedia is supported by Bulbanews, Bulbagarden Archives, and Bulbagarden Forums. Shouldn't that mean it's supported by the National Bulbagraphic, too? Excuse me if this is an obvious question, I had just joined today. BisumitoIsSnazzy (talk) 18:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea too but I just submitted yesterday so don't know how much my opinion counts.....Insert Pokè-name (talk) 06:13, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't think "supported by" is the correct term. They are all parts of Bulbagarden. The National Bulbagraphic is a part of Bulbanews. --SnorlaxMonster 07:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
National Bulbagraphic is currently not in production. —darklordtrom 09:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Is National Bulbagraphic specifically discontinued? If so, should its link in the Bulbagarden links section to the left of the page simply be merged into Bulbanews or the Bulbanews archive?Squirrelfeet (talk) 22:45, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I have a question...

Okay, so lately, with the release of Black and White 2, Bulbapedia has put news from it on the front page. Just out of curiosity, are they going to go back to putting articles daily on the front page? JacobtheDoduo (talk) 20:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

It's been pretty much decided that we're going to stick with just leaving the news feed up. It was very time consuming to replace the featured articles every day and we felt that this was easier. --Pokemaster97 20:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. JacobtheDoduo (talk) 20:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
It was fun reading daily featured article in the past. I sure hope Bulbapedia goes back to posting daily articles. It's been confusing to see the same twitter feed everyday "SimonOrJ"(U/T/C) 21:27, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

When is black and white 2 going to be in the U.S.

Hey, do you know when is black and white 2 going to be in the U.S. - unsigned comment from Chezalpern (talkcontribs)

This page is where you should look at first before asking questions about it. To answer your question, it's October 7th. --It's Funktastic~! (talk) 22:11, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Are we having a countdown for it on the front page, like for Black and White? - signed comment from GoldenCelebi (pedia talknews talkarchives talk) 18:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
A MediaWiki update broke our counter and we haven't been able to find a suitable replacement yet. So no, we won't be. Werdnae (talk) 19:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

National Bulbagraphic

Is National Bulbagraphic specifically discontinued? If so, should its link in the Bulbagarden links section to the left of the page simply be merged into Bulbanews or the Bulbanews archive? Squirrelfeet (talk) 16:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

In an above statement under the section "Just curious" a similar question was asked, and the darklordtrom stated that National Bulbagraphic is officially discontinued. Please make sure to read above sections before posting questions :). Thanks. (Charizard101 (talk) 20:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC))

He said that it was not in production. I was just checking what that meant or if it would come back. Considering that it is not in production, should it not be moved to the archives?Squirrelfeet (talk) 12:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm thinking that National Bulbagraphic is probably not going to come back, but as for if it should be moved to the archives, that is a question that someone like MAGNEDETH or darklordtrom could easily answer. (Charizard101 (talk) 14:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC))

Unova Pokedex

I was browsing Amazon the other day looking at prices of stuff for the TCG when I came across the new Unova Pokedex from Jakks. I was wondering if I could make an article for the item since we also have an article for the Diamond and Pearl one. I believe I have enough information to create an article, though I can't upload pictures, so someone else would have to do that. (Charizard101 (talk) 20:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC))

I think it deserves a page. --SnorlaxMonster 04:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Images aren't loading

Well, most of the. I first noticed this on Dewott's page.--Goomba98 (talk) 15:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

No images that are normal (as in, they're hosted on Archives; the logo near navigation is fine) are loading for me. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Same here, I thought I messed up somewhere while editing. I hope the staff are aware of the issue and are working on it. TheyCallMeMellowCello (talk) 18:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
The images on that page appear to be loading fine for me. Maybe check that your addons are not blocking the images? Werdnae (talk) 18:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
I disabled all my Add-ons, and pictures are still not showing up. This doesn't just happen on Dewott's page, but other pages as well. Edit: I checked an image itself (the ones that are not showing up) and I get a 404 error. Maybe this is because of the server move? TheyCallMeMellowCello ♫♩♪ (talk) 18:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
I think it may be your cache drawing the images from before the move. The images might be at different locations now. Clear your cache. --Abcboy (talk) 18:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
That did nothing. Images still aren't loading for me. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
If possible, you should be able to see the images by switching to another computer. I am not sure if going to the Archives page for each image would help the issue, but it would if the cache is cleared before hand. Super goku (talk) 19:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm having these issues as well. At first I had them on my mobile phone, at which the pictures were boxes with a ? on them and showed the link info, but then I got on my laptop and the pictures are still now showing. What's going on here? --Flufflemonster (talk) 19:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
I've got this too _Volcronaperson_ 19:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for doubting you, but it seems that there is an issue somewhere. It seems that the .png files are not displaying correctly on some browsers. I would suggest using a browser that can display .png files that are animated for the time being. Super goku (talk) 19:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
It's not a browser thing. They're no longer working for me, now that I'm using a different internet connection but the same browser. We'll look into it, but it's possible that it's due to certain internet connections not directing traffic properly after the move. It may not be a quick fix. Werdnae (talk) 19:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
So much for my guess. At least the images are still viewable on the Archives. Super goku (talk) 20:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Related to that, and as an added note, given that some images seem to be working some of the time: If an image isn't loading and you want to see it, click on it, and then click on the "description page" link to it on the archives. Please, please, please, don't sit there refreshing the page or continually trying to reload the image. Doing that is not going to make it load. What it will do is increase the load on our servers, making it so that less loads. It makes any problem worse. Werdnae (talk) 21:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
That just gives 404 not found _Volcronaperson_ 23:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
In extreme cases, it gives out a 503 error. (Loss of server.) Back on topic, what was the problem with some of the images? --Super goku (talk) 07:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
What I meant, was not navigate to the image itself, but navigate to the image on the archives. And the problem was that the main server had crashed, blocking all traffic. Werdnae (talk) 08:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
How come the archives access their images from the archives, while Bulbapedia accesses images from cdn2.bulbagarden? Abcboy (talk) 10:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Because wikis are set up to only access images that are loaded on them. The Content Delivery Network (CDN) takes the images on the archives and distributes them to Bulbapedia and Bulbanews. Werdnae (talk) 18:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Automagically redirected to pornographic site

So I was surfing on my iPhone 3G with iOS 4.2.1 yesterday in between 12:50 AM UTC and 1:20 AM UTC (don't remember exactly what was the time) when I fired up Mobile Safari and directed the browser to Bulbapedia's main page. Now, I don't remember tapping anything on the screen but there's a chance I did without noticing it. Either way, I'm not convinced it was accidental tapping. What happened is that I suddenly got redirected multiple times through the ad network until I reached this, which is a pornographic site. Now, I don't have anything against adult-themed content as I'm 19 but why in hell was I sent there in the first place? I demand an explanation. SatoMew 23:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually, it was in between 11:50 PM UTC of 2012-10-12 and 12:20 AM UTC of 2012-10-13. My bad. I forgot I'm currently on summer time. SatoMew 23:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Please report all disturbing or disruptive ads to this thread Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 23:18, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
OK, I shall do it later as I need to create an account at BMGf first and it's a bit late now around here. SatoMew 23:33, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Pedia down?

Was it? It seems it was earlier… --Abcboy (talk) 03:59, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

I think Bulbapedia was down earlier, along with Video Game Wiki. I tried several times, even exiting out of my browser and going back in, but that didn't work. I think something was up with the servers the wikis run on. (Charizard101 (talk) 02:55, 26 October 2012 (UTC))
Video Game Wiki...? If that's a Wikia site, their downtime is unrelated to Bulbapedia's downtime. R.A. Hunter Blade 03:44, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Then can anyone tell me what Bulbapedia's being down was all about? I was slightly confused about that. (Charizard101 (talk) 01:02, 27 October 2012 (UTC))
On the 22nd and the 23rd UTC, Bulbapedia was down for quite a few errors. Due to B2W2 server load, the servers have been unstable. --Abcboy (talk) 01:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the info. After the big server move they did, I can see why they might have some problems. (Charizard101 (talk) 01:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC))
Is the broken layout and random downloading of pages related to this?Goomba98 (talk) 00:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
No, not at all. This is a different issue (I think). If anything, it is the software that is broken. --Abcboy (talk) 00:36, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Downloading pages

I am the only one with this problem? Some random times, instead of load a new page my computer donwloads it. Is it my problem or is a bug on the website? --Gabo 2oo (talk)

It's some super annoying bug right now. I'm just going to sleep and hope it's fixed by tomorrow. (I'm on the US east coast, so it is bedtime now) Yawn... --Abcboy (talk) 03:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Userspace edit limit - pages to be put into mainspace

I am going to be writing a major section for an article here, but it will be spread across several days, and want to merge it all in to the article at one time. So I am asking if the userspace edit limit applies to sandbox-like pages which will have information that will be put into the main namespace. So...does it? --TruePikachu (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Just keep it under 3, preview, don't do them within minutes of each other, and don't forget about the mainspace. The staff are more lenient on those kind of pages. --Abcboy (talk) 00:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
We're more lenient with stuff for the mainspace, but they're not unrestricted. I have to ask why the section can't be written into the actual article. Werdnae (talk) 01:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I can keep it under 3 edits a day - it probably would be only 1 or 2. The section is large and technical, and I do not want to post an incomplete work into the mainspace - it could cause users to flood the talk page, edit it themselves (which would be horrible for the WIP), some might revert (with the way I work, initial versions might not end up looking like professional content, especially with notes all over the place in comments), and, worst comes to worst, I might keep an edit lock open for a period of 3 hours at a time - hardly an appropriate amount of time for mainspace. I would be making judicious use of the Preview functionality, as I am not entirely familiar with WikiCode. I will be merging the work into the appropriate mainspace page when it is completed.
I also wonder how capable Bulbapedia is of linking external images. The WIP section will probably have WIP images (hosted on my domain), and I would prefer to link those externally rather than uploading to the Archives for now, mainly to reduce server load.
And the main reason I ask is because the top bar is currently limiting userspace edits to 1/day, not the usual 3/day we had for quite a while. --TruePikachu (talk) 01:40, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
As you can see, I have externally linked an out-of-date image from the Archives. It's useful. And that's how you do that. --Abcboy (talk) 02:02, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

One request and two questions

  • I wanted to inform you that Pokémon Central Wiki has moved its Main page from Pagina principale to it:Home, could you please change the link on Bulbapedia's Main page?
  • I also noticed that the Portuguese wiki is not working at all, it tells me that the page does not exist (the same error that appears when you try to surf the Internet with no connection), is it a Country problem (I'm Italian) or is it something else?
  • When it shows me the 503 error what should I do, can I try to refresh the page immediately or should I wait 5 minutes before trying again?--CiaobyDany (talk) 21:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
According to my browser, the Portugese wiki is down/out of service/dead. If you recieve a 503 error, the staff recommend to wait a few minutes before you refresh. --Abcboy (talk) 21:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


Bulbapedia's recently being marked by Opera or Firefox as dangerous website. What the- Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

See this thread from this post onwards. We know, and have contacted Google about fixing it. --SnorlaxMonster 12:48, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


What's wrong with Bulbanews? Nothing's appearing on the Main Page and the Front Page of Bulbanews's "Current Events" section is blank. Is that supposed to be happening? By the way, I'm using Safari. KyuremsIceBlade (Talk) (Contribs) 21:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Some old article pictures were being changed recently and has somehow affected the story picker, which displays the recent stories/current events on the main pages. It should be fixing itself soon though. --Pokemaster97 21:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Some new news. Mesuxelf 01:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Pokéteca (Spanish wiki) Main Page link is a redirect

The link posted on the Main Page to es:Portada is actually a redirect. The correct link should be es:Página principal. Could someone please update this? Thanks! ChiefbozX (talk) 00:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I have fixed it. Thanks! --ZestyCactus 00:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
The link on the sidebar also needs a correction; it currently goes to es:Página Principal (as we all know, links are case-sensitive). Thanks for correcting the one in the Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis box. ChiefbozX (talk) 21:44, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Flags symbolizing languages

I'll put this here as there seems to be no better option on-wiki: Why you should not use a flag as a symbol of language, Why flags do not represent languages. Specifically, Template:Epilang (there may be other cases, too) always makes me uncomfortable. I know you guys really like graphics and colors, but just... don't do it this time. Also, the links to the "respective" (that's some serious quotation marks I put there) 'Pokémon in [country]' pages... Mewtwo745 (talk) 09:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Redirect to adult sites?

I'm writing this to report a serious problem I've had since a few months: while I'm on bulbagarden sites, I get redirected to an adult site and I can't return on the previous page. At first I thought it was a bad ad I opened inadvertently, but now I know for sure it is not that case. It first happened around december, and it got worse within the time... By now it almost happens once each fifty pages I open more or less. I usually get this problem on Bulbapedia, but it also happened once on the archives. It still haven't got this problem on the other bulbagarden sites but I think it's because I usually don't go on them. It is not a browser problem, since it happened with opera, chrome mobile and another mobile browser. I don't know if the fact I'm in Italy matters. I wrote down the site I get redirected to when I'm on the tablet. I don't have the desktop site because now I usually use my tablet, and I didn't think of writing down the URL. I first thought to add the link hidden in this discussion, but anybody could have still opened it. If you need it I can send it by email. Thanks for your attention--CiaobyDany (talk) 08:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

There are two possibilities here: 1) there's some rouge ad that's automatically redirecting you (without you even clicking it), which we would want to remove ASAP if we can or 2) you have a virus. If it is the former, then we want to know about it so it can be dealt with, so please post as many details as possible about it in the Bad Ad Reporting Thread. --SnorlaxMonster 08:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
As you suggested I reported it on the forum. I did read the notice at the beginning of the page, but I didn't think it was an ad problem. Feel free to delete this discussion and thanks again.--CiaobyDany (talk) 21:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


Why hasn't the message from the editor been updated since December 20? Also, can someone help me fix my signature? Spyspotter (talk) 13:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

The message from the editor is updated when we have something significant to post about. When that time comes, a new message from the editor will be posted. --Pokemaster97 22:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Non-existing pages

Whenever I click on a link to a non-existing page, a random set of characters (such as IA"});) appears. Why? Spyspotter (talk) 13:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Could you provide a specific example? The redlinks work okay for me. --Pokemaster97 22:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Welcoming new users

Wow! Not even the administrators could spend 10 seconds welcoming users. I just welcomed 30+ users. The easiest way to welcome users is to go here. Can't the administrators just do their duty*? Spyspotter 21:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You are aware of the large number of spambots we've been getting, right? A good chunk of those "users" might not even be people. Ataro (talk) 22:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
To follow on from Ataro's message, as a result of the mass of spambots, we've been waiting for users to make their first edits before we welcome them with the template*.--Spriteit (talk) 22:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Just want to say that as a non-staff member, I follow the same idea so as to not worry about welcoming bots and vandals. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 22:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


Bulbapedia is sprawling with examples of lengthy, detailed, written accounts of short works of fiction which are (downright absurdly) labeled "Synopsis". Anyone who believes that this labeling is appropriate should consult a dictionary. They need to be either rewritten as actual synopses, or simply relabeled. I am in favor of the former, since the aforementioned (comparative) length and detail of the summaries, coupled with narratives that are often completely off the mark as summaries, but rather retells the work of fiction anew (as a story itself), render many of the site's "Synopsis"-sections highly unencyclopedic. I post this to engage in dialogue, so tell me what you think should(n't) be done, please. Yvnr (talk) 14:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, they should probably be called "Plot". I don't think we should remove massive amounts of information to just make them actually comply with the definition of a word that was incorrectly used to label them—simply, the label should be changed. I agree, a lot of them are basically stories themselves, and they shouldn't be. These sections should be written detailing what happened in present tense, not using any kind of emotive language. --SnorlaxMonster 15:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Then we agree on that much. How will we go about renaming the sections? I suggested those massive amounts of information for removal under the assumption that an actual synopsis, and little more, was the degree of plot summary initially/ideally desired by an encyclopedia such as Bulbapedia. In other words, I believe that the scene-by-scene relaying, attempting to substitute the subject media content, as opposed to summarize its key points and provide the reader with an overview and some understanding of the work, is uncharacteristic of an encyclopedia, more fitting as content for other kinds of websites, or Bulbapedia's appendix namespace. That's my opinion, included since it ties in with the topic I brought up for discussion, but I realize that it isn't going places. As for ridding the sections of emotive language, I presume that this is already a long-established work in progress, carried out by editors who happen to read these sections, so nothing new there. Thank you for replying. Yvnr (talk) 15:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
They're still labeled as synopses. I can't imagine anyone disagreeing here, the suggestion is not pedantic, the change would be kind of easy to implement—what's the hold-up? Yvnr (talk) 13:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
So it's been decided that all "Synopsis" sections will be renamed "Plot", and an official blurb should be added where possible. Maverick Nate has already begun work on this. --SnorlaxMonster 04:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


We should use sounds. I'm pretty sure Wikipedia uses them, and besides, if our wikicode can handle videos, then it can handle sounds. If we can install sounds, we would be able to have Pokémon cries and possibly music themes*. Spyspotter 18:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Categorize the main page

It seems weird that there is even 1 uncategorized page. The main page would fit well in the Bulbapedia category*. Spyspotter 02:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


Adds have been appearing on every page I visit, coming from the lower border of the screen, even when I'm already logged in, it's very bothering specially for editing. Since I haven't installed anything lately and it only happens on this site, I just wanted to make sure if this comes actually from Bulbapedia and will still happening, or not. It is? --Gabo 2oo (talk) 01:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

We did some stuff to our ad listings today, and clearly something is not quite right. We are aware of it and working on it. -- MAGNEDETH 01:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
On my browser, there are ads that pop up and say, "Find out more about what is changing and why. Find out more about this new ad unit." It requires me to turn it off, which can warp me to a different page, which is annoying while editing. And needless to say, this is happening while I'm logged on. Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 02:23, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
It's a technical issue. It will be fixed as soon as possible. --SnorlaxMonster 04:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

2 Problems

1. The search bar blocks part of the page, which is annoying especially when editing.

2. I don't know where else to post this, so I'll post it here. Whenever I try to post on the forums, there is no typing field and instead there is an indigo-colored blank space between the post title and the other stuff.

Can someone fix those errors? Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 03:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

It may be an issue with your browser, what browser do you use and how long has the problem been occurring? --Pokemaster97 03:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
IE and Safari. The problem's been going on for as long as I was here. Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 03:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hmm. I checked on my Safari and both the search bar and forum seem fine. I don't have IE so I can't check that. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 04:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Are you using the most recent version of IE and Safari? G50 04:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
IE 10 won't download, but IE 9 should work. Safari is fully updated and it has the two problems. Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 12:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Long-Running Script

Whenever I visit a page that isn't in the main or talk namespace, an error message will pop up 90% of the time and say that bulbapedia has stopped functioning due to a "long-running script." I then have 2 options:

1. Click "stop script," and then be redirected to a page that says Bulbagarden has been shut down permanently, and be unable to go back.

2. Click "cancel," and then watch my computer crash. The only way to fix that would be to unplug it.

First of all, what is this "long-running script?" And, how in tarnation does the "Bulbagarden shut down" message appear? And, can those errors be fixed somehow? Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 02:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

What browser and addons are you using? That might help us try to nail down what's causing the issue. Werdnae (talk) 02:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I should add, this only happens on IE. Also, bigger pages are more likely to crash my computer, not to say that small ones don't. Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 03:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Twitter Feed

Am I the only one having trouble seeing the Twitter box on the main page??RBK (talk) 05:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I can't see it either. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 05:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Nor can I. I wonder what's going on with it? PokefanR (talk) 05:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Twitter updated their API today and as a result the widget we used to run the feed stopped working, we are trying to fix it. --Spriteit (talk) 07:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

x and y countdown

Now that we know the release date of x and y there should be a countdownn like the one bulbapedia had for black and white 0danmaster0 (talk) 06:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

The system we were using for the countdown was broken by a MediaWiki update a while back and no longer works. We haven't yet got another system to function adequately in order to replace it. Werdnae (talk) 22:47, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Was it similar to the one used on this page? Because if not, that one seems to work well so long as the input date and time is valid. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 20:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


Every time I want to access a page, it asks if I want to download it. It is only after a click the link around 20 times that I can go the page without having to download it. For example, this is what I get if I want I click "Random":

You have chosen to open:


which is a: application/x-httpd-php (2.4 KB)

What should Firefox do with this file?

Open with [Browse]
Save File
Do this automatically for files like this from now on.

I tested this out with Firefox and Google Chrome, still the same error. Along with this, certain pages are styled strangely - for the editing box for editing the talkpage of the main page, the editing box is rather tiny, and the character palette has all clickable symbols underlined, any of these symbols when clicked doing nothing (with the exception of taking you to the top of the page).

On the front page, there is no light grey "Search" word in the search box, and the UTC clock has disappeared. Sometimes there is a rather medium sized space between the "Due to a security issue..." message and the "Welcome to Bulbapedia!" message. Also, sometimes the green background turns into a white background.

Also, some pages are displayed without the stylesheet.--NOBODY (talk) 14:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Not happening anymore. --NOBODY (talk) 14:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Prerelease policy suggestion

(Not sure whether there's a good/easily-seen place to put this, so I'm gonna put it here Just Because.) As I'm sure most people are aware, the disconnect between the Archives and Bulbapedia means that some images are stuck in their old forms for days, weeks, or months after they've been updated on the Archives. Judging by prerelease Pokémon reveals so far this generation, we're getting Sugimori art within hours or a couple of days after we put low-quality CoroCoro scans on our pages, and then the Sugimori art takes a long time to get repaired on our pages. This makes our pages look unpolished for everyone and confuses new users, leading them to unnecessarily suggest that the art be updated even though it technically already has been. To neutralize this problem, I suggest that low-quality prerelease scans use a different image file name than the final artwork. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:49, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

As problematic as it is, one of the first reasons against it I have is that if they are uploaded as separate files, we lose the history of the file, and what we had at a specific point in time. I actually find having image histories more important in the long run than removing them in order to fix problems in the short run. MaverickNate 23:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Point taken; I hadn't thought about that. As an alternative approach to a solution, is there any possibility of finding a way to lessen the syncing problem itself? Perhaps some kind of way of marking certain images (like these prerelease scans) as "high importance" or something to get the software to attempt to sync them more often? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
On the other hand, keeping the magazine scans as separate images would allow us to keep the history of the Bulbanews articles, in that we would have magazine croppings on the BN article when that was all we had, but the clean artworks when we got those. Ideally though, there would be some way to fix the Archives caches issue. --SnorlaxMonster 07:14, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Pokemon - Ken Sugimori Artworks

Hi! I would like to ask if ever we could change all Pokemon official high quality Artworks with smaller but unified sizes from Pokemon Zukan Website? It has around 350x300 pixels in size per image and has shadows on it, png type of images. Just asking if it is okay? I just ripped all the Pokemon images from Zukan website, Thank you... --GASPERshut... 06:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think shadows are wanted. Also, I think that high resolution images are better as well. For artworks, consistent dimensions is not as important. --SnorlaxMonster 07:15, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
ahh.. Okay I'm just asking since not all Artworks are available in High Quality.--GASPERshut... 08:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Anatomy Vs. Physiology

I already asked this if we could change all Physiology to Anatomy under Biology section or add Anatomy to it.It doesn't fit at all, that the description of the Pokemon's body parts is not Physiology. --GASPERshut... 08:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

The staff are currently working on a new way too present information about this section prior to the release of X+Y. So please be patient. --Spriteit (talk) 03:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not being frantic or anything... actually I'm not hurrying anyone I'm just asking since I already asked it, for I remember, prior the release of Pokemon Black and White. I just noticed it again when I opened my account. Thank You...--GASPERshut... 12:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I didn't think you were, but I can see how my comment may have made it sound otherwise, and I apologise for that. But it's one of the changes that will be implemented when we go through and update all the Pokémon to the new style, so you were heard and listened too :) --Spriteit (talk) 12:37, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Bug in Uncategorized Categories list

There is an issue in the Uncategorized categories list. Most of those in the list are already given categories, but are not registering properly in them. What may have caused this? Berrenta (talk) 21:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Looks like, of those 17 results, only 1 of them should be there. Seems like a server-side issue, as purging the cache didn't do anything. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 14:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I see. Well, hopefully the issue gets resolved. Thanks for the reply. Berrenta (talk) 17:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Mega Evolutions Artwork

Where are we going to put them? on the pokemon pages or the mega evolution page? _Volcronaperson_ 20:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes. To clarify: The art (for now, this may change to in-game images in future) Should be, and already is for most/all the ones we know about, on the Mega Evolution page. Art on the species pages is going to need a new template, which is already partially built but still a way off yet. Werdnae (talk) 22:06, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Generation VI Pokémon

Are the administrators waiting to add info about the new Pokémon to their pages? I was just on the Pokémon X and Y Official Site and they have limited information about some of the new Pokémon. I don't know if people are aware of this and just waiting to add it, or if we're not supposed to, or what. Just trying to help. :D KyuremsIceBlade 19:11, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Is there something on the official site that we don't mention? Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:39, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, there is some information about certain Pokémon that we don't have, such as a tidbit I saw about Honedge. It says: "If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you... draining the energy from your body!" Also, it says Inkay has transmitters above its eyes that can drain the will to fight from other Pokémon, and it says Malamar has some of the strongest hypnotic powers of any Pokémon, it can make other Pokémon bend to its will, and many people try to use it for nefarious purposes. I bet there's more, but this should be going on the species articles, not the Main Page. KyuremsIceBlade 19:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
This is just a guess, but I have a feeling those might end up being Pokédex entries. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 20:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
That's what I was starting to think, too as I read more of them... well, thanks for listening and replying. KYUREM'S ICE BLADE 12:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Differently color-coded generatons

I noticed today that the colors commonly used for generations (i.e. Orange for Generation V, green for Generation III) have been swapped with different colors. The normally used orange for Generation V is now a light blue color. I now that this isn't a top priority thing, but, I was just wondering. PokefanR (talk) 22:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

You can find an in depth reason for the color changes on my talk page. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 22:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

X&Y party/item sprites

You can rip the 2D sprites seen in screens like the inventory and Pokémon lists by using a 3DS capture card and ripping them the classic way (i.e. taking screenshots and cutting the sprites out). Just throwing that out there.Goomba98 (talk) 01:29, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Ampersands in titles

For articles that contain ampersands (& ←like this), clicking the edit top of page link or new section link leads to a window where you end up editing a page with a title that goes up to before the first ampersand. For example: editing this page in this manner leads to editing this page instead. In other words, the ampersand performs a cutoff. How can this be resolved? Berrenta (talk) 23:00, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

That doesn't seem to be happening for me. The ampersands that are part of the page titles end up being replaced by the character code "%26", thus avoiding the cutoff, when I go to edit the page you used as an example. Out of curiosity, what web browser is this happening on? Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 23:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
This is on a Safari browser. Haven't checked IE yet. Berrenta (talk) 23:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
If the problem is happening on Safari, I would not recommend using IE as an alternative, it will probably still happen. I'm on Chrome, and that replaces & with %26. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 00:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Likewise, Firefox also replaces ampersands with %26. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 00:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I'm reproducing Berrenta's glitch in Firefox. The problem arises not from clicking the "edit this page" link but rather from the "[edit top of page]" link to edit the top-most section. Miles (talk) 00:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Yup, reproducing it in Chrome using the Edit top of page link. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 00:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Well then, seeing as I never use that "Edit top of page", it's understandable why I never noticed it. The issue does not seem to happen when editing sections, either. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 01:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, it also used to occur when trying to follow a redlinked page with an ampersand in the tile (although it seems to work fine now). To prevent the issue, I guess adding __NOEDITSECTION__ to the top of any page with an ampersand in the title would work; for Pokémon Box Ruby & Sapphire, I just protected Pokémon Box Ruby to prevent accidental creation. --SnorlaxMonster 06:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Looks like that because the first section is set up in a special way, __NOEDITSECTION__ has no effect. If there is no page at the part of the title before the ampersand, it should be create-protected. Otherwise, just avoid using "edit top of page" of pages with ampersands in them. --SnorlaxMonster 06:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Would it be possible and feasible to force redirect a section back into editing the lead. Example: Edit "Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass" to feature a redirect to Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass & Fire (TCG) in editing mode? --Super goku (talk) 06:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 :/ Since I just realized that wouldn't work, would a better idea be to move the articles with "&" to "and" while including {{wrongtitle}} in the lede? Especially since the search function doesn't play well with the ampersand. --Super goku (talk) 07:42, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
What issue is there with the search function? I've never heard of that one before, and I can't find it. & only causes minor issues, so since it is technically possible to use in titles, I think we should. --SnorlaxMonster 07:51, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I was referring to searching for anything containing an "&" prevents any results from showing up. Example --Super goku (talk) 07:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Results show up if the searched text contains an &, it's just not if you only search an &. All special characters are ignored on the search page, so you get the same result if you search ! or @. --SnorlaxMonster 08:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, tested in Internet Explorer, and it seems to work normally there, as & was properly converted to %26. Seems the issue only applies to certain browsers, like Safari. Berrenta (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Kogoro updated the code, but because of where it is, it's very slow to update. Browser choice has nothing to do with the issue at all, simply the javascript that encoded those links had failed to 'escape' the page title, and with the limited knowledge of javascript among active staff it took us a while to figure out how to fix it. Also, something to note is that it does not escape the characters @*/ and + The only of which should matter is the rarely used +. Werdnae (talk) 20:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, I tested again on Safari today, and it seems to work properly now. Thanks for the update! ^_^ Berrenta (talk) 22:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Bad news

I learned that Hiroshi Yamauchi died so please add the news. article - unsigned comment from PokeSerbia (talkcontribs)

here's an link - unsigned comment from PokeSerbia (talkcontribs)

Since that is a Bulbanews article, which is under the same figurative roof as Bulbapedia, it's likely going to be reflected here soon enough in full detail. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 14:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


Is the twitter feed down again??RBK (talk) 22:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind lol, my computer just glitched for a second.RBK (talk) 22:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


Um are the forums down or is it just my computer??RBK (talk) 17:32, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

The forums were indeed down but they should be working fine now. AdynizWanna talk? 17:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Type charts on Gen VI Pokemon

The full Gen VI type chart has been released, so why don't any of the Gen VI Pokemon have a type chart on their pages? ArchedThunder (talk) 00:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

The {{Type effectiveness}} template is currently only compatible with Gen V, and alot of stuff has to be updated with Gen VI coming out, so it's all a matter of patience. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 04:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Names of Pokemon games in general

Hey! Just wanted to bring this giant post I just typed elsewhere to your attention, instead of retyping the same info over again: In short, Japan stopped using "Pocket Monsters" outside of the katakana when R/S dropped, and at the same time Nintendo as a whole started up a consistent branding scheme (actually I'm not entirely sure how it scales to everything else but) that most people don't seem to notice (only with X/Y has this been changed (for the better)). Because of this, I believe we (and Wikipedia, and everywhere else) needs to rethink how we handle the game titles. There's a reason things like the albums refer to themselves as "Pokémon", and it's not to be "import friendly". If I've come across as a bit brusque, I apologize, but I find it a bit silly that this has gone unnoticed for a decade! Despatche (talk) 08:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I get your point that in Japan the English name of the games is "Pokémon Ruby" etc. after RS, but I'm not entirely sure what you're suggesting. The italic English text next to Japanese names is supposed to be a translation of the text, and there is a katakana difference between "Pokémon" and "Pocket Monsters", so they are translated as such where appropriate. It is important to note that the Japanese text does say "Pocket Monsters", as in Japan the main series is officially the "Pocket Monsters series" [1]. Also, it's worth noting that Pokémon Stadium does the exact opposite of what you mentioned: the katakana says "Pokémon", but the Latin text says "Pocket Monsters" (for all three games). --SnorlaxMonster 11:15, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah, sorry. I'm suggesting that we should use "Pokémon" as that transliteration for these later games instead of "Pocket Monsters", because that's what Nintendo does... we do the same for Pokemon themselves, for example. The trick is that you really want to avoid transliterating if you can help it; you can produce multiple official titles out of what looks like one. Basically, what's happening is that you have a katakana (here, anyway) title that is always used within itself, and a Roman-based title that is always used within itself--"進撃の巨人" and "Attack on Titan" is similar--two completely different titles used within the same context to refer to the same work (at the same time). That page may say "ポケットモンスターシリーズ", but you can bet it would have used "Pokémon" if they could help it.
And yeah, with the Stadium case, those games were part of the old branding, which used "Pokemon" whenever it pleased. Technically, "Pokémon" is actually part of a "phrase shortening" trend that's pretty common in Japanese ("Famicom"'s a great example, and this is also why the term is even "Pokémon" to begin with), so it was occasionally used by Nintendo wherever they felt; Pokemon Puzzle Challenge became "Pokemon no Panepon" (heh, "Panepon" is another example of that shortening, being short for Panel de Pon) for its Japanese release, for example.
(Fun fact: technically the katakana isn't actually "Pocket Monsters" transliterated; there's a common tendency (it's totally random!) to remove the final S/Z sound at the end of plurals in these transliterations, so it's really "Pocket Monster". "ポケットモンスターシリーズ" is a great example of with and without, in fact. Platinum is similar; the katakana actually reads "platina" (a word usually used to refer to alloys of platinum) and at least one Nintendo website uses this.) Despatche (talk) 06:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
I think I get your point, but the problem is that the "English name in Japan" is not an accurate translation of the actual text. Pokémon names are only alternate romanizations, not alternate phrases entirely. Pokémon and Pocket Monsters are used distinctly, so the translation should accurately reflect this. In your Attack on Titan example, were we to have an article on it (it's not relevant to Pokémon, so we shouldn't), it would be formatted as
Attack on Titan (Japanese: 進撃の巨人 Advancing Titans)
However, I do take your point that it would be useful to note the official Asian-English names of the games, but the problem is that in the case of Pearl (for example), we have ポケットモンスター officially as Pokémon, but nothing for パール. (Asian-English is a term used in Yu-Gi-Oh, so I'm borrowing it here for clarity; there may be a better term, but it will do for the circumstances.) For the record, platinum in Japanese comes from the Spanish word "platina" rather than the English one, thus why it is formatted as such (or at least, that's what I remember being told by my high-school Japanese teacher). --SnorlaxMonster 11:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
1. "Pokémon" is most definitely a distinct title from "ポケモン", even. Titles are not about meaning, not ever; they are always about physical structure. It's pretty obvious that there are three different titles used (for whatever reasons there may be) to refer to the same work: "Pokémon", "ポケモン", and "ポケットモンスター". What else is there to it? (As a sidenote, I disprove of the preference for translations, specifically over romaji... where can I open a discussion about that?)
2. That sounds like a pretty good case for not having romaji at all, doesn't it? Fortunately, Nintendo at least provides "Platinum" here (nearly every single Japanese page on the game uses it), and likely provides the same for the other games (at the least, they outright use "Pokémon <version>" on every soundtrack album since Ruby and Sapphire's). Despatche (talk) 06:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Unknown Dungeon

I either cannot or am unable to find where to create a page for the Unknown Dungeon in Gen VI that holds mewtwo. Could someone make this? The dungeon's entrance is in Pokémon Village.

TheJaceX (talk) 21:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Time for archive 13?

I mean this page is getting pretty big! Bill Gates (talk) 20:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


I know we changed the Pokemon artwork images to a square ratio for practical reasons, not aesthetic ones, but now that they're the standard, other articles with Sugimori images — Valerie is the one I noticed, but most humans' articles, in fact — look abnormal because they break this new standard. Can we just apply the square requirement to all official art used in infoboxes so things match aesthetically? (I know this is totally not a priority and thus will absolutely not happen at least until the XY info is all put up, but I thought I'd suggest it to be implemented at some point in the future.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

This was actually something we bought up whilst making the decision to square the images of Pokemon. With the character art a lot of the pictures are a fair bit taller then what they are wide, whereas with Pokemon, the difference is to a much less significant degree. As a result, when the character images are forced to comply with the infobox a significant amount of quality is loss. --Spriteit (talk) 06:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon X and Y sprites and icons

I just wanna ask when you guys will have the X and Y icons and sprites. Raichu8575 (talk) 15:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

"Sprites" in the traditional sense don't really exist anymore; Pokémon in Gen VI are represented by fully in-motion 3D models with no single "still image" to really take as a sprite. That's probably why in the Evolution section of any Pokémon page, you'll see official artwork instead of the current sprite like there used to be. The Sprites section may end up being something that only goes up to Gen V now. As for the icons? I saw some Gen VI icons around a few days ago but they're since been removed, apparently. No clue why. --KiANGLO (TALK) 22:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Likely if we can get the files, we might create a model section for each Pokémon, though it isn't possible at the moment. --Super goku (talk) 00:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
There's still party sprites, even for completely new Pokémon. They're also used when choosing a Friend Safari to enter. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 00:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I know, and like I said I saw them before; on a type page I think, when it listed all the Pokémon of that type. Gen VI Pokémon were there, icon and all. Maybe someone uploaded icons but they got taken down? --KiANGLO (TALK) 03:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, they were taken down because the user who uploaded them admitted to stealing them from Serebii. The images will be uploaded once someone can get them themselves and not steal them from other sites.--ForceFire 03:50, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


Hi there. So I've been having trouble adding a page to my watchlist these past few days. It's the Clemont anime page and it keeps saying an error occurred. I w as just wondering if this was just me or if other people are having trouble to??RBK (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

The "watch"/"unwatch" button at the top of the page seems to be broken. You can find my report here. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 18:26, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for letting me know, I'm glad to know it wasn't just me :).RBK (talk) 19:12, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Volcanion, Hoopa, and Diancie

So I'm sure most of you have heard about the three legendary event Pokemon recently found in the coding for X and Y. So I want to ask: Why do we not have pages for them?

Obviously we don't have any info yet, and I understand that, but we had a page for Trevenant long before we even knew his English name. Couldn't we make a page for them and not have any info for them (even PokeDex number)? I know they're real, I went into the X and Y GTS and saw for my self. So I think we need pages for them.

Opinions? (And before you give them, please read my ENTIRE post. I've gotten way too many posts that have logic that I already broke in my explanation. And if you don't think my explanation is accurate, tell me why. Cuz it gets annoying when its just "NO WE DONT HAVE ANY INFO IDIOT. YOUR STUPID."

Nutter Butter (talk) 17:49, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

That's because at the time, Trevenant's existence was confirmed by official footage. --The Truth aka Relicant 17:51, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Before this conversation goes too far, let me redirect you to the already-ongoing discussion about these three at Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub → Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:01, 6 December 2013 (UTC)