Talk:M12/Archive 1

Arceus

I'll clear one thing up before I kick off the main point of the message: I fully believe that a movie featuring Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Spear Pillar will feature Arceus. HOWEVER, in the blurb for PikaProj09 on the movie list article (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) it is stated that the movie is "expected to feature Arceus." By whom? By whomever happened to write that sentence. I don't think that should be there until there is some actual proof beyond opinion. LordArceus

Opinion... of 90% of the fandom. TTEchidna 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. LordArceus 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof.

Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it.

Edit: OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts. File:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg

Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture. Pikachugal 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Calm down, friend. Arceus in this movie is too obvius. But IT IS UNCONFIRMED. We just have to wait for an official source --Nick., something to say? 02:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the new trailer on the japanese website and i am absolutely entranced by the mysterious golden blur that appears for only like half a second in the middle of the video. [1] [2] [3] Morgil27 20:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Naming

You know, since we don't go moving around every episode to its English title... why don't we move all of the movies to Pikachu Project (year)? Anyone think it'd be a good idea? TTEchidna 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, in my opinion it's a bad idea

does that mean we change all the Pokémon to their national dex number too?----Ultamatecharizard 22:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Think about it...Makes sense!

"The producers went to Greece in August, 2008; this confirms the basis for the movie's setting." And looking at the above posts about Arceus. Now, I know a little about Myths and things, and remember how many gods they had in Greece, back in days far gone? Anyone else think that setting a movie in a place were they were once many Mythological Gods would be a good place for the so called "God Pokémon"? C: Just a theory. ~~Takoto| サソデイ 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Still doesn't make it official. Even if the odds point to Arceus being in the movie, we're waiting until Arceus is actually confirmed to appear in the movie to add that information. --Shiningpikablu252 16:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I said it was 'just a theory' D: I never said it was official! ~~Takoto| サソデイ 16:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Then why does this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) still talk about Arceus? May I please remove that? LordArceus 03:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for theories. And yes, that thing about Arceus should be removed. --Nick., something to say? 03:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

New Pokemon Speculation.

Ok, Guys, I just want to say that, those of you still maintaining the site, I'll keep in the part on the Gen V Pokémon reveal speculation until December the 15th, only then, can we determine whether it should be kept in (As most of the info for the movie will be unveiled on that date.), if there is no mention of any Pokémon belonging to the new generation (not even showing a sihlouette, for that matter) then we must remove that tidbit. Got it? good. Weedle Mchairybug 19:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

didn't seribii say it was going to be tommorow? Ultamate_Charizard 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Strange... the article says that it's December 15th, Oh well... Weedle Mchairybug 20:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The default for any speculation is to take it out no matter how much of the fandom believes it, not to leave it an article just because we can't disprove it. You also can't disprove that Nintendo may reveal a Gen VI Pokémon on the same day, but since we have no proof we don't state it. I'm going to delete whatever it is you're talking about unless you can change my mind. LordArceus 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? I think thats the right Episode ShinyPika <3 ALS 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach.

Pikachugal 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

is it just me?

can anyone see the other pictures here? Ultamate_Charizard 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

What images? If you're referring to the two links above, they were deleted for being copyright violations since they were stolen from Pokébeach, one of them altered. --Shiningpikablu252 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Eclipse

Check it out, the three legendary titans are battling during a total solar eclipse. I'll leave it to others to point out signifigance but it is noteworthy. Aura-Knight 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

seeing how time and space are probably going to get ripped a new one in this movie that eclipse would be fitting Ultamate_Charizard 20:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Why Pichu? A couple intrepretations

• A. This Pichu is captured by Brock sometime soon.
• B. This Pichu is owned by the major human character of the film.
• C. This Pichu is Pikachu before he was given to Ash.
• D. Just a wild Pichu that just so happens to be in the right place at the right time.

Those seem to be the only major possibilities, and I get the third from Space-Time Void Aura-Knight 22:27, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Or it isn't actually Pichu, but a Poké that looks just like it. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 22:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I actually like idea C. When do we get a release date for this thing? TTEchidna 01:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

No idea. Hmm... I gotta wonder why it has that spiky ear though... maybe they're lieing and it WILL be a gen V Pokémon! *Laughs at self* The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 01:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it is one of the Pichu Bros. and the other one was lost due to the fighting between the Dragon Trio, and this one is looking for his lost brother. ^Maverick_Nate 01:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Except for the fact that it looks nothing like one of the Pichu Bros. And before you say it, the distortion could have changed his ears? I don't think so. Anyways, I figured C. would be the favorite, its the one I'm rooting for. Aura-Knight 01:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Dawn captures the Pichu. She's already somewhat like Ash already, what with the disobedient Mamoswine, the unevolved, overshown, initially unfriendly starter, the seeing a legendary at the start of her journey, need I go on? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 02:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

It is important to point out that nobody ever captures a Pokémon in the movies, so Brock or Dawn capturing it is probably very unlikely to happen. Personally, I back up the thought of it being Ash's Pikachu from the past (as Dialga controls time. - ElectricArbok 18:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

(Resetting indent)@ ElectricArbok: Yes, but Ash's Pikachu does not have spiked ears. Why would an abnormality like that change? LordArceus 17:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

It changed when (s)he evolved. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 17:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

What I meant was "Why would an abnormality like that change when it evolved?" It's possible but unlikely. (Shiny Pokémon stay shiny, for instance.) LordArceus 17:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Posters

I have the posters needed for this article. And can someone look at the website? They have the specific reading for the kanji now.

• Movie12 Poster.jpg

  Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void movie poster

• Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG

  Pikachu the Movie poster

Uhm, that Pichu clearly has two ears. One is just partially obscured by Pikachu's head. Lucentas 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

who said anything to the contrary? The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 18:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, I think I saw something on the forums where people were saying it only had one ear or something...but I could have been half-asleep and misreading everything, it's happened before, haha. Anyway, another point that nobody seems to have pointed out yet, the Pichu is on the poster for the Pikachu short, not the movie itself, so it's useless to speculate about what role it might have in the movie. Lucentas 18:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

You make a good point there... there is no actual confirmation that the Pichu is the Pokémon that was hidden. Gen V. is back on! The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 18:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I didn't quite say that... There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the Pichu was indeed the hidden Pokémon, although why they'd want to make a Pichu a "surprise" is beyond me... Lucentas 18:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Look at its eyes. They're the same brown as another Pokémon on that poster. TTEchidna 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Nintendo Owned Everyone (Including Me)

Nintendo is amazing. - unsigned comment from LordArceus (talk • contribs)

Whoops. LordArceus 17:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I must say, they're total jerks for that. TTEchidna 20:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)