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The CGI effects were made for the Japanese DVD of it and not for the dub. --Qwertybub3 02:32, 01 June 2007 (UTC)

Seeing as the DVD was only released in 2000 and the Japanese VHS with the CGI in late 1999, I'm inclined to think the dub got the new CGI first. - 振霖T 12:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, something was said on the audio commentary about the CGI being added for the dub. Yes, I listen to audio commentaries. -Happy Mask Man 17:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Who's that pokemon?

In the error section of this page it says that meowth gave the wrong names of pokemon. What If he meant to do that, not making it an error?

I agree, but I thought Team Rocket made the mistake? Anyway, it only shows their lack of knowledge when it comes to Pokémon silhouettes, if you catch my drift ... Tesh 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
He didn't do that in the original version, only in the English dub. Don't believe that excuse Michael Haigney and Norman Grossfeld gave that they were trying to make Team Rocket look stupid. They're only trying to cover for their mistakes. --PAK Man Talk 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Ahh, I haven't seen the Japanese (original) version, I wouldn't understand it anyway. However, have you noticed that, James has a great knowledge of Pokémon? Probably from all of those tutors from his childhood... Tesh 22:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
This is what is actually said in the commentary:
"That is a mistake that we made. We actually made a mistake when we did the first draft of the script and we actually recorded that incorrectly. We did catch ourselves."
"Right. I think the son of the sound effects editor noticed it watching the film."
"Right. And [this] was before it was completely done and [he] pointed it out to us and we ultimately made - maybe it was laziness or maybe it was genius, I don't know (laughs) - decided to keep the mistake in: a) to make something fun for the kids to spot and also we realised that, well, would Team Rocket actually know every Pokémon and be experts to see the silhouettes and point them out correctly? And we decided ultimately that they can make a mistake so we can make a mistake."
That is a long way from your claims, PAK Man, so lay off the 4Kids bashing.
As for James's knowledge, that is something that has been developed since movie 1. Were his cards even seen before AG? --FabuVinny T-C-S 22:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur

If I remember right, didn't Mewtwo have those clones pre-made, and then just faced them off against Shellshocker, Ash's Charizard, and Bruteroot? That'd mean that Togepi wasn't the only uncloned Pokémon. TTEchidna 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, he did already have them.--Starlight_the_ampharos 21:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
That doesn't mean they weren't uncloned. In the Origin of Mewtwo, they were Bulbasaurtwo, Charmandertwo, and Squirtletwo, all cloned by Dr. Fuji. - unsigned comment from PH1RESTRIKE (talkcontribs) 21:59, 11 February 2009
Oh wait, scratch that. 1337Fire ►strike! 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Fearow Trainer?

"When the three other Pokémon trainers are taking off, Cory is seen doing it twice, the second time on a Fearow."

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I remember on a fansite, they claimed that it's a different trainer. The Fearow trainer is a girl, too. I think she's in a crowd a few minutes before the trainers leave for New Island.

Oh, and I think that the DVD commentary confirms this, and that she didn't make it to the island. Seritinajii 12:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I noticed this as well, cuz I zoomed in on the trainer and i think it was som blonde girl with pigtails that you can see near while Officer Jenny was talking. ShellShocker 10:34, 29 July 2008

Only film canon to the anime?

At least in non-Japanese languages, I'm sure Ash remembers having seen a Lugia from the Orange Islands when he meets Silver and its parent. --Johans 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay then. Go ahead and add it; I guess I forgot that.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 00:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The question is, why would any of them not be? Sure, Ash may not remember exactly, but remember, the show can't just assume everyone's seen all of it. TTEchidna 02:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, yeah, that's why I used "confirmed as canon," since the other movies may very well be, but it's not obvious because, like the majority of anime movies, the main series may not show any sort of acknowledgment of things that happened in movies.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 02:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, but then again, sometimes, the series doesn't even acknowledge it's own episodes, no matter how important they really are (eg. Ash forgetting what the P1 Grand Prix was in the Tyrogue episode despite participating, becoming champion of, and loaning his champ pokemon to the runner up, May claiming that she used Skitty in the Fallabor contest when she actually used Beautifly, Ash forgetting double battles despite the fact that the reason why he won HALF of the Orange League Badges IS because of Double Battles, etc, etc.) Weedle Mchairybug 11:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Mewtwo's Origin for rating?

I don't get it, how could "Mewtwo's Origin" prevent the theatrical version from keeping its "G" rating? File:Ani384MS.gifShinyRayquaza 07:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"Mewtwo's Origin" is a little dark for younger audiences. Animine 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You say 'a little dark,' I say 3 pokemon and a human die in it. Not an ambiguous death like Ash's, a clear death. Legionaireb 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Just a question.

Anybody know who composed the music/background music for this movie? D: Takoto! 11:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Team Aqua Logo?

I watched the movie on VHS after reading this aritcle and I think the Trivia should be changed. The so called logo on the bandana is simply a skull and cross bones not an "A". If it was related to anything it should say that it resembles a koffing. Thats my opinion. User:Rucario64

Opinion goes on forums. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links09:35 1 Jul 2008

It is neither the Team Aqua logo, nor a normal Skull and Crossbones. The emblem on the trainers head is the emblem that appears on the stomach of the pokemon Koffing and Weezing. Legionaireb 04:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


Looking back at Ash's revival, it may have been the power of Aura that revived him. --Wikifixer 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you have proof? the only thing i remember that revived him were the tears of the Pokémon that cried when they saw him turn to stone; just as the legend said. --いぬみみ 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


Okay, so I'm a bit confused about the short "Mewtwo's origin"...there is a CD drama, right? is that just a plain audio CD? If so, then what is the 12 minute clip that was cut from the dubbed version of the 1st movie? And what's with Madam Boss and Miyamoto? All i know is Miyamoto saw Mew in the mountains and hasn't been heard from again. --いぬみみ 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


I know that there are conventions that determine where the movies take place in the Pokemon storyline, and that said conventions place this movie between The Pi-Kahuna and Make Room For Gloom, but I believe it takes place much later: Specifically, between Pallet Party Panic and A Scare in the Air. My material evidence is that when the brainwashed Nurse Joy in the movie requests that Ash and company release all their pokemon, there is no sign of Pidgeotto. Less concrete is my feeling that, up to the point of The Pi-Kahuna, Ash had not accomplished anything that would have gained him sufficient notoriety to cause trainers from as far away as Johto (as indicated by the presence of a Donphan in the party of the trainer that challenges Ash in the movie's opening) to specifically seek Ash out. It would require a feat as significant as placing in the top 16 of his first Pokemon League Competition. I would like others to weigh in on this issue. Legionaireb 05:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Just because someone has a non-native Poke to the current region, doesn't mean they're from that region, sure it seems like that alot, but it doesn't always have to...Just sayin...--PsychicRider 05:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Two issues

One user added the fact that Ash's Charizard obeyed him in this movie, but I don't find it believable because Ash never gave orders to Charizard and that Charizard attacked Mewtwo without warning. Does anybody agree?

Also, would it be proper to mention that the movie's dub title is a reference to Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back? --rockersk08 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I won't comment on your first point, though I do believe that the Star Wars note should be added to the trivia section, especially since articles on episodes have similar notes. Legionaireb 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for input. I put it on the page, so let's see how it goes. I'm still waiting for comment on the first topic I put. --rockersk08 01:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

New Articles

I suggest the creation of (at least) 3 new articles: one for Clone Pokemon, one for the clone Pikachu, and one for the clone Meowth. The clone Pikachu and Meowth deserve their own pages because they have personalities and abilities distinct from their originals. A page on Clone Pokemon can refer to Pokemon created by Mewtwo and the his creators, as well as Fossil Pokemon. Legionaireb 02:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Wrong information about removed scenes

I am pretty much sure that the scenes about Mewtwo's childhood, Amber etc weren't removed from the original movie, they rather didn't exist back then yet! The first movie aired in July 1998 in Japan, the prequel in September 1999 as a "radio drama" in Japan, later on as a short anime. And that's what I also remember. Maybe it's not important, maybe I'm just that interested in this because I highly hated the prequel. Since til now I was only here to edit minor mistakes, preferably about German Names etc, I couldn't change it myself if my complaint proves itself to be correct.