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:Thanks for bringing this up. I was going to add those items to the list, but I was busy on [[Starfy Wiki]] and totally forgot to do so. I'm familiar with some of their specifics. If you change the items in any [[PokéMart]], you can actually buy individual [[Coin#Trivia|Coin]]s for 10 Pokédollars per coin. The trivia section on Coin's page had some speculation on it, so I've since removed it. The second ????? has an index number of 44 (0x2C). Unlike the "surfboard" (0x07) this item does not appear to have a use at all, and gives Professor Oak's unusable message when you try to use it. I believe that 0x07 is actually programmed to act the way it does, and I've found it interesting that its index number is [[List of items by index number (Generation I)|directly after]] that of the Bicycle, but it could just be a coincidence. | :Thanks for bringing this up. I was going to add those items to the list, but I was busy on [[Starfy Wiki]] and totally forgot to do so. I'm familiar with some of their specifics. If you change the items in any [[PokéMart]], you can actually buy individual [[Coin#Trivia|Coin]]s for 10 Pokédollars per coin. The trivia section on Coin's page had some speculation on it, so I've since removed it. The second ????? has an index number of 44 (0x2C). Unlike the "surfboard" (0x07) this item does not appear to have a use at all, and gives Professor Oak's unusable message when you try to use it. I believe that 0x07 is actually programmed to act the way it does, and I've found it interesting that its index number is [[List of items by index number (Generation I)|directly after]] that of the Bicycle, but it could just be a coincidence. | ||
:There is [[List of items by index number (Generation I)|another item]] that is a duplicate of PP UP, occupying index number 50 (0x32). The interesting thing about it is that it has a price of 9800 Pokédollars, which may suggest that the developers put it there in case you were going to buy PP Ups at one point. The real PP Up (0x4F) does not have a buy price (forcing it in a Poké Mart allows you to buy it for 0 Pokédollars). It does follow Nugget (0x31), but Nugget's buy price is 10,000 Pokédollars. Although it shares PP Up (0x4F)'s name, it appears to be unusable and gives Oak's unusable message when you attempt to use it. The item is similar to two items in [[Generation II]], but I'm not convinced they're related. They are "TM04" (dec:195, 0xC3) and "TM28" (dec: 220, 0xDC) and directly follow the index numbers of the real items, but they do not have valid "buy" prices. | :There is [[List of items by index number (Generation I)|another item]] that is a duplicate of PP UP, occupying index number 50 (0x32). The interesting thing about it is that it has a price of 9800 Pokédollars, which may suggest that the developers put it there in case you were going to buy PP Ups at one point. The real PP Up (0x4F) does not have a buy price (forcing it in a Poké Mart allows you to buy it for 0 Pokédollars). It does follow Nugget (0x31), but Nugget's buy price is 10,000 Pokédollars. Although it shares PP Up (0x4F)'s name, it appears to be unusable and gives Oak's unusable message when you attempt to use it. The item is similar to two items in [[Generation II]], but I'm not convinced they're related. They are "TM04" (dec:195, 0xC3) and "TM28" (dec: 220, 0xDC) and directly follow the index numbers of the real items. They can't be used, but they are found in the items pocket and do not have valid "buy" prices. | ||
:The Safari Ball should probably be added to this list. I know that that it has a description on {{g|Stadium (Japanese)}} (it uses EUC-JP encoding), in addition to all games from [[Generation II]] and onwards. Additionally, IIRC the Japanese names of the Badges are the "unused names" (offset 4A92). (I added details about those unused names on the list of items by index number page under another section) and {{user|SnorlaxMonster}} helped me with what one of the names translated to. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC) | :The Safari Ball should probably be added to this list. I know that that it has a description on {{g|Stadium (Japanese)}} (it uses EUC-JP encoding), in addition to all games from [[Generation II]] and onwards. Additionally, IIRC the Japanese names of the Badges are the "unused names" (offset 4A92). (I added details about those unused names on the list of items by index number page under another section) and {{user|SnorlaxMonster}} helped me with what one of the names translated to. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
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Expand?
Should this be expanded to include stuff like the Surfboard and Teru-sama from older generations? ZestyCactus 16:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- Not a bad idea. Go for it. ht14 02:48, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
- OMG! I was just thinking of that when i saw the discussion page! :) SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 11:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I've done it. Just add in the Items you need to add. Thanx SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 11:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- And turtwig a made it incomplete... SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 15:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't make it incomplete. All I did was add the incomplete tag to show that the list wasn't complete yet. Also, the two words in my username are capitalized. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 15:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thats what I meant. Sorry about the capitals. Can you teach me some wiki so I can make a table? Because i read the guide and i didn't get it. can you show me how to do it? SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 15:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't make it incomplete. All I did was add the incomplete tag to show that the list wasn't complete yet. Also, the two words in my username are capitalized. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 15:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- And turtwig a made it incomplete... SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 15:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I've done it. Just add in the Items you need to add. Thanx SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 11:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- OMG! I was just thinking of that when i saw the discussion page! :) SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 11:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Wait
TM51 contains Flash? Does it go Flash, Strength, Surf, Fly, Cut, then, with Cut at TM55? TTEchidna 00:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
"List of dummied out *key* items"?
This list includes a lot more than just key items. Should we move it to "List of dummied out items" or something? Of course with the Black and White rush, I know we're all busy.
Anyway, might be worth a look, Samjohn95 21:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Suggestion
Shouldn't we put the dummied out items of Leafgreen, Firered,Black, and White in the article?Just a suggestion.--Mewmewmanga 21:41, 27 November 2011 (UTC)♪♫
Generation V items?
Are any of the following Generation V dummied out items: Cherish Ball, Sacred Ash, Mulch, Honey, Lock Capsule, Generation IV Mail, List of items by index number (Generation V) numbers 428 to 536. Also, are any of those FireRed/LeafGreen items that exist in Emerald's coding for some reason "dummied out items"? ~Enervation 02:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, those don't count. Maybe Lock Capsule, but lets wait a little longer on that one. --SnorlaxMonster 15:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Missing Generation I items
I know that there's other items missing from the list for Generation I... I don't know the specifics since I don't use emulators or GameShark or anything, but I know of that least two more. There is an item called COIN and an item called ????? (which is not the Surfboard... it's a second item with the same name with a different effect). Someone should look into these and add them.
I just looked at a text dump and those seem to be the only two that are missing. Dannyjenn 03:44, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this up. I was going to add those items to the list, but I was busy on Starfy Wiki and totally forgot to do so. I'm familiar with some of their specifics. If you change the items in any PokéMart, you can actually buy individual Coins for 10 Pokédollars per coin. The trivia section on Coin's page had some speculation on it, so I've since removed it. The second ????? has an index number of 44 (0x2C). Unlike the "surfboard" (0x07) this item does not appear to have a use at all, and gives Professor Oak's unusable message when you try to use it. I believe that 0x07 is actually programmed to act the way it does, and I've found it interesting that its index number is directly after that of the Bicycle, but it could just be a coincidence.
- There is another item that is a duplicate of PP UP, occupying index number 50 (0x32). The interesting thing about it is that it has a price of 9800 Pokédollars, which may suggest that the developers put it there in case you were going to buy PP Ups at one point. The real PP Up (0x4F) does not have a buy price (forcing it in a Poké Mart allows you to buy it for 0 Pokédollars). It does follow Nugget (0x31), but Nugget's buy price is 10,000 Pokédollars. Although it shares PP Up (0x4F)'s name, it appears to be unusable and gives Oak's unusable message when you attempt to use it. The item is similar to two items in Generation II, but I'm not convinced they're related. They are "TM04" (dec:195, 0xC3) and "TM28" (dec: 220, 0xDC) and directly follow the index numbers of the real items. They can't be used, but they are found in the items pocket and do not have valid "buy" prices.
- The Safari Ball should probably be added to this list. I know that that it has a description on Pokémon Stadium (Japanese) (it uses EUC-JP encoding), in addition to all games from Generation II and onwards. Additionally, IIRC the Japanese names of the Badges are the "unused names" (offset 4A92). (I added details about those unused names on the list of items by index number page under another section) and SnorlaxMonster (talk • contribs) helped me with what one of the names translated to. --Chickasaurus 17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
