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:Yeah, you're right those green lines are very irritating, I don't know why they are there in the first place. It remembers me to the EP38 accident.  [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 08:35, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're right those green lines are very irritating, I don't know why they are there in the first place. It remembers me to the EP38 accident.  [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 08:35, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
::It's because [[template:ruby color]] is rather dark, along with [[template:sapphire color]] and [[template:hoenn color]].--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 08:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
::It's because [[template:ruby color]] is rather dark, along with [[template:sapphire color]] and [[template:hoenn color]].--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 08:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
== PMD? ==
Where's the PMD characters? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:06, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
== One-time note. ==
Why do the remakes and stuf only have a few characters listed? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 16:15, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
== Sprites ==
So okay, debut sprites. But with B2W2, now I am confused. Some of GSC characters have sprite from Stadium 2, and someone (for an unknown reason), changed some of the BW sprites to these from B2W2. Therefore, what goes? Also, the Week Siblings now is broken, could someone fix that? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:57, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
:Fixed Week Siblings. The way it was coded caused it to break on Sundays. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 23:26, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
:: Marked you're right. I had a discussion about the usage of old sprites of characters which have gotten new sprites for a while, a while ago. And even though I don't think that I could try to convince people of my opinion this time, I think that the whole page should be synchronised. If a character debuts in a certain (pair of) game(s), then it will use the best sprite available of it in that (pair of) game(s). So if a character doesn't have a battle sprite in the game(s) of debut, it will be stuck to its overworld sprite (or worse)! So that means that Rood and Zinzolin shouldn't ever be using the battle sprites introduced in games released after the characters. So if I would agree with the way of working that is now used, I would say that Rood and Zinzolin would need to get back their overworld sprites in the list, or that the whole list will just use the newest sprites possible (yay!). [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
== Pokemon Conquest Aid Characters ==
Should the characters like messenger and pongorri lady be included in the pokemon conquest section (if so I do not know how to make the circles and every thing) {{unsigned|Pastamasta}}
== Mystery Dungeon and Pokepark ==
Shouldn't the imporant characters from [[mystery dungeon]] and [[pokepark]] be included too, like [[Blitzle]] and [[Grovyle]] {{unsigned|Pastamasta}}
== Order and minor characters ==
In wich order the characters are? If there is no order is possible to put the major character in the current format, with sprites and images, and add a section for each games named "minor characters" or "other characters" to put all the characters without a image (or with a bad image. For Instace, Generation 1 could be like this: ---[[User talk: Fosco Corazza| <small><span style="color:#ff2400">Fosco Corazza</span> </small>]] 14:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
==={{game|Red and Blue|s}}===
<br clear=all>
{|  style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Red color}};"
|-
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Red 1.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Blue 1.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Oak.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Brock.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Misty.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Lt Surge.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Erika.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Koga.png]]
|- style="font-size: 80%"
| {{color2|000|Red (game)|Red}}
| {{color2|000|Blue (game)|Blue}}
| {{color2|000|Professor Oak}}
| {{color2|000|Brock}}
| {{color2|000|Misty}}
| {{color2|000|Lt. Surge}}
| {{color2|000|Erika}}
| {{color2|000|Koga}}
|-
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Sabrina.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Blaine.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Giovanni.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Lorelei.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Bruno.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Agatha.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Lance.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Spr RG Rocket.png]]
|- style="font-size: 80%"
| {{color2|000|Sabrina}}
| {{color2|000|Blaine}}
| {{color2|000|Giovanni}}
| {{color2|000|Lorelei}}
| {{color2|000|Bruno}}
| {{color2|000|Agatha}}
| {{color2|000|Lance}}
| {{color2|000|Team Rocket}}
|}
<br clear=all>
====Minor Characters====
*[[Daisy Oak]]
*[[Bill]]
*[[Mr. Fuji]]
*[[Copycat]]
*[[Baoba|Safari Zone Warden]]
*[[Pokémon Center Nurse|Pokémon Center Nurses]]
*[[Kiyo]]
*Red's [[mom]]
*[[Old man (Kanto)|Old man]]
*[[Professor's aides|Professor Oak's aides]]
*[[Marowak (ghost)|Ghost Marowak]]
<br clear=all>
::: News? Could it work? Does it suck? Can I work on it? --[[User talk: Fosco Corazza| <small><span style="color:#ff2400">Fosco Corazza</span> </small>]] 18:02, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Seems like a good idea to me.  - [[User:Poikins|<span style="color:#fc880d">'''poi'''</span>]][[User talk:Poikins|<span style="color:#ff3333">'''kins'''</span>]] 22:23, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
== Sprites or Sugimori artwork ==
Can we turn every sprite into Sugimori artwork or keep the sprites since several characters doesn't have an artwork? [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 02:35, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Revision as of 05:12, 25 July 2019

Images

Would it be better to restyle the page in a manner that does not involve images, since not everyone has a sprite, and that makes the article seem incredibly lacking. - unsigned comment from Turtwig A (talkcontribs)

It could be changed to look a little like Template:TCG Releases, or maybe the characters without sprites could be omitted? GoldenCelebi 16:28, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
...Hello? *clears throat meaningfully* GoldenCelebi 17:59, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Can't the overworld sprites be used for those? |) u |( e ® 18:38, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
That could work. I tried it before, but I couldn't find any overworld sprites for most of them. If you'd like to look again, you're perfectly welcome. This is a wiki, after all. GoldenCelebi 20:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm into other projects now, that was a suggestion. |) u |( e ® 20:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Adding sprites?

Do they have to battle sprites or can they also be overworld sprites too? Frozen Fennec 17:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I think any sprites would do, or even Sugimori art if necessary. GoldenCelebi 22:34, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Was wondering since looking at the article it seems to be they all have to be in-game sprites (or icons for the 3D games). Frozen Fennec 22:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Another question, you think anyone will mind if I convert the long lists into the image tables? Frozen Fennec 22:48, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
I doubt it. It's been lying half-complete for about two months now. GoldenCelebi 22:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Wait.

Why Snap is in Generation II? Article doesn't say anything about GSC, only HGSS. Also, Reed is never seen in-game, only in radio, Lily doesn't appear either. Marked +-+-+ 16:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Snap should be in Generation I. Says it here. *goes off to change it* -- GoldenCelebi 10:08, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
It's not referring to that Snap. There's a character, or radio host, named snap who appears in HGSS. Reed appears in GSC.--ForceFire 10:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Yet another idiotic mistake to add to my current tally. >:-/ -- GoldenCelebi 10:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Sprites replacement.

Because every character is listed by the game of debut and no repetition is used, the old characters have old sprites. I think this is not a good reason, so could we give everyone the newest sprite possible? Instead of their sprites of debut? Nickvang (talk) 12:53, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

They should at least all use generation III sprites, even those characters introduced in generation I. - unsigned comment from Nickvang (talkcontribs)
I've done Kanto and it looks nicer now. I understand the list by debut, but not the list with debut pictures! Nickvang (talk) 15:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Uh... might want to look at this. -- GoldenCelebi 17:35, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I actually think Jo the Marten isn't right. If someone wants a list of game characters, the newest sprite possible must be used. I mean... ...there isn't a second list with the new images. Everybody needs a proper list with proper pictures. Like a said before: I understand the list by debut, but not the list with debut pictures! And by the way, noone seems to have trouble with my changes at the moment. Nickvang (talk) 07:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Read the headers. They say a specific game, we use a specific game sprite.--ForceFire 08:06, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

But it's not 'fair' that being of a later generation means having a better game sprite. We start with old black and white sprites and we end with new colorful sprites. I find it confusing and pages like 'Gym leader' and 'Elite Four' have also their characters listed by debut, but not with debut sprites. Nickvang (talk) 08:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

This is not about what's fair. This about listing them chronologically. The Kanto Gym leaders debuted in Generation I, therefore, we use Generation I sprites. Elite Four and Gym leader pages only have their newer sprites because that page is not about chronology, unlike here where all characters listed are by debut.--ForceFire 08:27, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
If I could throw in my two cents. I like it fine the way it is. If people want to see the newer sprites, they can just look up the character page. Crystal Talian 08:30, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Ruby/Sapphire

The color of the table in Ruby/Sapphire section hurts my eyes. Am I the only one? --Maxim (talk) 08:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right those green lines are very irritating, I don't know why they are there in the first place. It remembers me to the EP38 accident. Nickvang (talk) 08:35, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
It's because template:ruby color is rather dark, along with template:sapphire color and template:hoenn color.--ForceFire 08:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

PMD?

Where's the PMD characters? --Abcboy (talk) 20:06, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

One-time note.

Why do the remakes and stuf only have a few characters listed? Nickvang (talk) 16:15, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Sprites

So okay, debut sprites. But with B2W2, now I am confused. Some of GSC characters have sprite from Stadium 2, and someone (for an unknown reason), changed some of the BW sprites to these from B2W2. Therefore, what goes? Also, the Week Siblings now is broken, could someone fix that? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 11:57, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixed Week Siblings. The way it was coded caused it to break on Sundays. --Abcboy (talk) 23:26, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Marked you're right. I had a discussion about the usage of old sprites of characters which have gotten new sprites for a while, a while ago. And even though I don't think that I could try to convince people of my opinion this time, I think that the whole page should be synchronised. If a character debuts in a certain (pair of) game(s), then it will use the best sprite available of it in that (pair of) game(s). So if a character doesn't have a battle sprite in the game(s) of debut, it will be stuck to its overworld sprite (or worse)! So that means that Rood and Zinzolin shouldn't ever be using the battle sprites introduced in games released after the characters. So if I would agree with the way of working that is now used, I would say that Rood and Zinzolin would need to get back their overworld sprites in the list, or that the whole list will just use the newest sprites possible (yay!). Nickvang (talk) 19:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Pokemon Conquest Aid Characters

Should the characters like messenger and pongorri lady be included in the pokemon conquest section (if so I do not know how to make the circles and every thing) - unsigned comment from Pastamasta (talkcontribs)

Mystery Dungeon and Pokepark

Shouldn't the imporant characters from mystery dungeon and pokepark be included too, like Blitzle and Grovyle - unsigned comment from Pastamasta (talkcontribs)

Order and minor characters

In wich order the characters are? If there is no order is possible to put the major character in the current format, with sprites and images, and add a section for each games named "minor characters" or "other characters" to put all the characters without a image (or with a bad image. For Instace, Generation 1 could be like this: --- Fosco Corazza 14:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)


Pokémon Red and Blue


Spr RG Red 1.png Spr RG Blue 1.png Spr RG Oak.png Spr RG Brock.png Spr RG Misty.png Spr RG Lt Surge.png Spr RG Erika.png Spr RG Koga.png
Red Blue Professor Oak Brock Misty Lt. Surge Erika Koga
Spr RG Sabrina.png Spr RG Blaine.png Spr RG Giovanni.png Spr RG Lorelei.png Spr RG Bruno.png Spr RG Agatha.png Spr RG Lance.png Spr RG Rocket.png
Sabrina Blaine Giovanni Lorelei Bruno Agatha Lance Team Rocket


Minor Characters



News? Could it work? Does it suck? Can I work on it? -- Fosco Corazza 18:02, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Seems like a good idea to me. - poikins 22:23, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Sprites or Sugimori artwork

Can we turn every sprite into Sugimori artwork or keep the sprites since several characters doesn't have an artwork? Cinday123 (Talk) 02:35, 4 January 2014 (UTC)