Talk:Leaf (game)

So who made up that name? --nYoo 17:22, 2 February 2006 (CST)

I want to know that too. Following the trend that the 1st and 2nd gen games set, her name should be Green, or Blue in the Japanese version. I'm guessing someone just chose one of the optional names from FRLG and gave it to her when they made the article. There's no real basis for her name being "Leaf", so shouldn't we go by precedence, as was done with Gold, Silver and Kris, and just call her Green?. -Shaddow Boy

For an English Language Version, Green is accurate, however Green (game) already directs to Blue, does it not?--PikamasterADV 00:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Internal game data. There is a trainer, presumably used for debugging, with the sprite of the male player, and another trainer with the sprite of the female player. The male one is named Red, but the female is named Leaf for some strange reason. - 振霖_T 09:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

English version or Japanese? --WikidSmaht 08:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Both. --Maxim 10:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

This isn't really a good habit to get into. If we start taking unused data as official canon, then Professor Oak started with Squirtle, the Safari Zone had no Pokemon in it 3 years after Red and Blue, and that the Lake of Rage is still a town. It just doesn't make sense. Fire Red and Leaf Green have officially fixed Green's (male rival's), name to that of the original, leaving lone Blue, the third version gal, without a truly official name. While logic would suggest we should call her Blue due to the Manga as well as Blue being the color generation's third game, we are stuck basing her name on what can only be called speculation. Unused Data =/= Fact. Fishman 15:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Er, no. When it comes to the games' canon, internal game data > manga name. Otherwise we should be calling Brendan "Ruby" and May "Sapphire".

And no offense, but your analogies are the ones that don't make sense to me. The prototypical Safari Zone in GSC doens't have wild Pokémon because the wild encounters data was never written, not because it was originally meant to not have Pokémon. And the finished versions of the games retconned Profesor Oak into not being a fight-able trainer, and the Lake of Rage into being just a lake are, not a town. But neither the finished games not Nintendo officially revealed a name for the FR/LG female protagonist, so if her name during the development stages was Leaf (which in-game data seems to prove it was), then it should still be, since there isn't evidence to make us believe that it was retconned into another name. Spideym 00:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Well we can't call her Blue, because Blue (game) is the rival. Zurqoxn 01:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

If only GSDS would become reality, we'd know for sure, since then we'd have to find out what happened to her as well as Red. TTEchidna 09:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

We don't need another sequel. Besides her name, the answers are right here in front of us. The Blue (game) has officially been renamed as Green. All we have to do with the old article is point out that his English name used to be Blue, and was later changed back into Green. Fishman 01:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

No, it has not been officially renamed. The rival's first default name for the Red version does not qualify as the character's official name. For all we know, his name could still be "Blue," just because it's not a default name doesn't mean it's been officially changed. Taking evidence from all the games supports that the rival is Blue and the girl is unnamed (leaving us with Green), but the idea that Blue has become Green is just fan speculation. I also agree that we can't go taking in-game data as official, and believe the name of the girl should be Green until Nintendo proves otherwise.--Mezase Master

No to you, Mezase Master. First of all, you'll give the reason to most of us when we claim that Blue, this is, Japanese Green, is now Green outside of Japan as well since FRLG. Why do I say this? Because of HGSS and in-game data. And if internal game data says that her name is Leaf in both Japanese and English versions, then we have to assume it is as such. It's like you're claiming that Nintendo, specially the American and European divisions, don't screw up on the manuals and stuff. Even if such material is official, it doesn't mean it's correct and in-game data is the superior form of canon in the Pokémon franchise, so I say you're wrong. Pokemon lover 11:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

BTW, I e-mailed Nintendo of America back in late 2008 and asked them what was the official name of the female player character in FRLG. They told me that there isn't any and that players can name characters as they pretend (we all know that happens in every game except the rival in RSE), so we only have in-game data left. And if in-game data says that the name is Leaf, it's because it is. Pokemon lover 12:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Her name can't be "Green" because is the rival's name in the games already Haruka uzumaki 16:06, 24 September 2007

Her name isn't "Green". It's "Blue". Fishman 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

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Okay, that manga information should definitely be in a separate article. But what series is it referring to? --Pie ^~♪♫ 05:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

RBG picture

So, supposedly she's based off of a picture from an old guidebook. Does anybody have an copy of this picture? I'm curious to see it.

Blue artwork?

I found an image that appears to be the artwork described in the article. Is this it? [1]

It doesn't show her face, unfortunately. GigaMetroid99 02:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

We're not sure it's her but she does resemble Blue (Green in the U.S)--☆Coolピカチュウ! 02:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I was just wondering if that was the picture that the article described with:

Leaf was supposed to be in the original Red and Green versions, due to the fact that on Nintendo's Official guidebook, it depicted a female trainer with long brown hair, a black dress, white gloves and short black boots, alongside the male protagonist and the rival. It is believed she was supposed to be in the game, but was left out for some reason.

If that's the right image, it should be added to the article to show viewers how she would have looked.GigaMetroid99 01:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused I thought the picture already was in the article.... I made a copy of it from somewhere...--Marhawkman 02:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Her back sprite

It may be me but her back sprite,and Red's,makes it look like she has brown eyes,despite what the trainer card shows. Lovely Rose 02:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Rival = Blue? or Green? HGSS

Well, being that the rival's name also complicates things, as TTEchidna said, if the Viridian City gym leader in Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver is Leader (or Gym Leader) Blue, then it's back to the drawing board, but if he's Leader (or Gym Leader) Green, the name of the female player character of FireRed & LeafGreen may very well be Blue then.

Her name will be Leaf regardless. TTEchidna 02:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't the situation change if she appears in HG/SS under a different name? Tsum 04:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

It might but I think if the English translation calls the Viridian Leader "Green" to go with FireRed and LeafGreen, and has Red still in Mt. Silver, then this girl being Blue would confuse people due to Green being Blue in Gen II because before it was Red and Blue. Leaf fits her best of all, unless they were to go a completely odd route and go with actual given names, in which case I'd bet that Red would be Satoshi in Japan and Ash here, Green is Shigeru/Gary, and Leafy-poo is Ashley. TTEchidna 22:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The only one not to appear in the anime?

Wouldn't Soul count? Also,what about Mark,Mint,Wes,Michael,Lucy,Kate, and Lunick? Or do it just refer to the main games. Even so,what about Soul? Or is it still up for grabs that she is just a redesign of Kris,and not a seperate character? Lovely Rose 03:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Soul's game hasn't even been released. Of course she hasn't appeared in the anime yet. If she appears, she will probably show up during the 13th or 14th seasons, late 12th at the earliest, assuming they return to Johto after the Sinnoh League and the Sinnoh GF. --エルレイド 04:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)