Talk:Lake guardians

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Why won't the links to Neptune and Jupiter work? The one for Minerva works. --Shiny NoctowlTalk | FunFile:224MS.gif 01:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look, but if I can't fix it, ask Zhen to. -Politoed666 01:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I got it. You accidentally used a colon instead of a | between wp and Jupiter or Neptune. -Politoed666 01:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Puddle shapes

M.vit added to this page that the three puddles are in the shapes of the dragon trio. I can sort of see Giratina in Uxie's cave, but Palkia and Dialga... I just don't see them. Does anyone believe this is true besides M.vit? There may be something to this, but I want to get everyone's opinion before I revert again. --Martonimos((Talk))

On second thought, I will revert it, and we can add it later if we decide it's correct. Better to keep speculation off the pages and add facts later. --Martonimos((Talk)) 07:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
In fact, I can't see anything.... All I see is A triangle in Uxie's Cavern, A Square in Both Azelf's and Mesprit's Cavern. Force Fire 09:19, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the misunderstanding, the first puddle seen in the article is giratina, which has a shape like this thumb_giratina.jpg for the second one, you can see dialga's face, with one of the dots acting as his eye, the third one looks like palkia's pearl mixed with his head.--M.vit 19:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Anyone else want to weigh in? Although now that you mention it, FF, I think that the third puddle actually looks more like a circle. They all have the weird lines coming out of them, though... --Martonimos((Talk)) 21:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I can see it:

  • Uxie's cave has Giratina's head.
  • the 2nd one is dialaga's head
  • the 3rd is palkia's head.

セーラー地球 09:17, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm.. I can see it, A little bit. Just can make up the picture Force Fire 09:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I can see Giratina and Dialga. Having trouble with Palkia though. I think this speculation, however, is correct. SixthFlyingMan 07:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


I found out that each of the caves according to units on the town map (I.E the one that mention the cave and spear pillar and including girantinas lake) ar roughly 12 units away for each of them by the Pythagorean Theorem. Show anything? Atomix26 21:10, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


I know I made up the name "lake trio" but I'm thinking that a better way to describe them would be legendary pixies. Plus, then they'd fit with the other three standard trios. TTEchidna 02:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

What standard? Beasts, birds, golems, dragons, fine, that's a standard...and then there's the weather trio. They don't have a standard, thus break any standard one would have. Everyone calls them the lake trio anyway. Besides being sprite-like (as in fae, not pixel), it's what they have in common that's the most blaringly obvious. Change 'lake' and you'd have to change 'weather'...and the only thing they have in common is the Bible. And we cannot call them that. Lake trio is fine. ...It's also shorter. You know how people in this fandom like their short hand. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 03:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I also do not see a problem with Lake Trio....I like it.

----HoennMaster 03:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I guess... I created the name, can't get people off it. I just wonder what happens when GSDS comes out and isn't called something that starts with GSDS... TTEchidna 05:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
The weather and dragon trios aren't the same as the lake trio, or the legendary birds/beasts/golems. Legendary Pixies would match better with the other three. I think TTE has the right idea. --((Marton imos)) 03:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't disagree with a namechange, but pixies? Can't we at least think of something better? Pixies is just..... odd. Too odd. — THE TROM — 07:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Lake Trio doesn't match with Dragon trio or Weather trio, since they have nothing to do with lakes. They are just found in them. I agree it should be renamed but I am not sure whether it should be "pixies". Jmath 07:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, OK. Other good options are fairies/faeries or sprites. I'm sure we can come up with plenty more. --((Marton imos)) 09:10, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Propose "legendary spirits". — THE TROM — 08:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

How about "Lake Guardians", seeing that's what they're collectively called in the anime, and no one else calls them anything else in canon media. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 15:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

They are referred to as "Lake Guardians" by Cynthia. Ҝəυzø8 04:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. --((Marton imos)) 06:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
By that, then Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres should be at Winged Mirages. TTEchidna 08:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Haven't they actually been called the legendary birds officially as well, though? Meanwhile Lake Guardians seems to be the only thing Azelf, Uxie and Mesprit have been called (I assume we're discounting "mirage Pokémon," since that's a Japanese generic term the English games decided to start using).--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 01:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, only in DP096. In the previous episodes, they were referred individually. Ҝəυzø8 11:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC), are we going to move this, or what? ((Marton imos)) 20:10, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Everyone knows them as the Lake Trio now, I'd just leave the title as it is. Taromon777 20:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

On second thoughts... how about Mind Trio? Just an idea. Taromon777 20:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Both of the names sound good. I think that Lake Guardians makes them sound more "legendary". --Usyflad10 22:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Dude... notice the date before you comment on a page. This is from back in the first week of June. That was the fifth. This is the twenty-third. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
And in all that time, we haven't come to a conclusion. I think we should move the page. There's not a lot of dissent, and if there's an outcry afterwards, we can change it back. I don't have the power to do it myself, so... --((Marton imos)) 03:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


... What I WAS going to say in my edit summary was 'I'm not seeing it.. besides, it's just speculation, isn't it?'. I think a discussion'd be better than just going back and forth in an edit war, so.. um, how do these puddles resemble the DPPt mascots? Tina 21:50, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

The Uxie picture is clearly Giratina facing forward. The 2 puddles are eyes, Mesprit's puddle is Diala facing east, the top puddle is the eye, the bottom puddle is in its mouth, Azelf's puddle is Palkia facing west, top puddle is it's eye, bottom puddle is in its mouth. Quite a few people have seen it Super-Max 21:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
i think they actually do bear slight resemblances to the dragon trio. -- MAGNEDETH 21:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Hm. Now that you point it out, it does kinda look like the three dragons.. It'd be a little less vague if the page said which lake looked like which dragon, though. Tina 22:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Politoed666 is being an ass. Even though Deth (another admin) can see it, and the consensus on this page says they can see it, he has decided to over ride consensus and over ride another admin, and put his own views, instead of what the consensus is. Super-Max 22:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

No. They don't. Additionally, Max-o, I'm E.B., which means I technically win against all of you. However, if anyone else wants to weigh in, I may be persuaded to change my mind. --ニョロトノ666 22:05, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Why are you acting like a dictator, do you need glasses, it's clear which is which, are you saying this happened by accident, why then did the game makers make all the puddles different, and it's clear that the makers were thinking about these puddles, as they included a location of the other 2 lakes. The info has been on there for ages, and the majority can see it. Super-Max 22:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Come on, Politoed. You know, its true (not about the glasses thing)and its better to have that than absolutely nothing.--Clarky13 22:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't usually like getting involved in these arguments, as I don't feel I contribute enough to have a say, but when I saw these puddles in-game the first thing I though was that they looked like the dragons, so I have to agree with the majority here, the puddles do clearly resemble the dragongs. C R E S T ☆ 22:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Nice try Crest... Or should I say Super Max? The admins can see your IP address... --ケンジガール 01:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Shut the hell up

Speculation like this has no place on Bulbapedia. Take it to the forums. Ketsuban 22:14, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's now 5-2, and we are arguing about how to improve the article, so it does belong on Bulbapedia, even 2 admins are involved in the argument, and can you talk to people with a bit more respect, we have a code of conduct page you know. Super-Max 22:17, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Ditto on the conduct thing. But in case you didn't know, Max, Ketsuban's an admin too...--freezingCOLD (page, talk) 22:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Take it to the forums. Ketsuban 22:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
This page isn't just a speculation. Ҝəυzø8 08:03, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
She was talking about people seeing the Dragon trio in the puddle's shapes, not the page itself. --((Marton imos)) 08:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Ahh. I thought it was the article. SMax's answer made me confused. @[email protected] Ҝəυzø8 08:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Lake Guardians

Should the article be renamed with this? They were referred like this. J-J-M 14:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Capitalized or no? TTEchidna 05:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I guess it's better if it isn't capitalized. It would be consistent with the other pages. J-J-M 18:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Puddle Shapes

I just noticed something. Uxie has a circular head, Azelf has a triangular head, and Mesprit has four things on its head that, if spread out, would make an x shape. If you connect the points on an X, you get a square

...Didn't ANYBODY else see this? ~ Shadowater [April 11th, 2009, 9:46 PM GMT -7 (I don't know how to use the time stamp >.<)]

Just type four tildes (~~~~).—Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 06:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
No, sorry, we were busy arguing about whether or not they're the Dragon Trio's heads.
This is an interesting theory, but I don't see it in Mesprit. It looks triangular, too. It's otherwise a neat pattern, though. --((Marton imos)) 20:03, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
A circle, a triangle and an X are the three symbols used for judging in the Set KO Tourney in Emerald aren't they? Taromon777 12:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC)