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medichamp isnt native to sinnoh..... more like hoen--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|<span style="color: #4080FF">kitten</span><span style="color: #204080">child</span> <span style="color: #000000"> and her </span><span style="color: #998969">D</span><span style="color: #804020">i</span><span style="color: #998969">s</span><span style="color: #804020">c</span><span style="color: #998969">o</span><span style="color: #804020">v</span><span style="color: #998969">e</span><span style="color: #804020">r</span><span style="color: #998969">y</span>]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん<sup>[[User talk:Kittenchild|<span style="color: #color ice">Talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kittenchild|<span style="color: #color water">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 03:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
medichamp isnt native to sinnoh..... more like hoen--[[User:kittenchild|<span style="color: #4080FF">kitten</span><span style="color: #204080">child</span> <span style="color: #000000"> and her </span><span style="color: #998969">D</span><span style="color: #804020">i</span><span style="color: #998969">s</span><span style="color: #804020">c</span><span style="color: #998969">o</span><span style="color: #804020">v</span><span style="color: #998969">e</span><span style="color: #804020">r</span><span style="color: #998969">y</span>]]A.K.A. ねこさん<sup>[[User talk:Kittenchild|<span style="color: #color ice">Talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kittenchild|<span style="color: #color water">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 03:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


Medicham is in Sinnoh. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Medicham is in Sinnoh. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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== Image ==
== Image ==


I think that [[:Image:Jupiter DP097.PNG|this image]] looks way better than [[:Image:Jupiter anime.jpg|the current one]], for this reason: The image I linked to first only has Jupiter in it. Also, there was no discussion to change the image, but I'm taking it to the talk because I don't wanna revert an admin. So, what do you guys think? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I think that [[:a:Image:Jupiter DP097.PNG|this image]] looks way better than [[:a:Image:Jupiter anime.jpg|the current one]], for this reason: The image I linked to first only has Jupiter in it. Also, there was no discussion to change the image, but I'm taking it to the talk because I don't wanna revert an admin. So, what do you guys think? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:I agree again.--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:I agree again.--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::The Wikipedia guideline is, "the more body the better." I'd say the second image.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 08:50, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::The Wikipedia guideline is, "the more body the better." I'd say the second image.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 08:50, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::And I ''don't'' like that. The images are supposed to be focused around the Galatic commanders, so I think the images shouldn't have any other characters in them. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 20:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::And I ''don't'' like that. The images are supposed to be focused around the Galatic commanders, so I think the images shouldn't have any other characters in them. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 20:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Each one of them is in the middle of the image. That is focusing on them. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 20:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Each one of them is in the middle of the image. That is focusing on them. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 20:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but it focuses on them even ''more'' if they are the ''only'' people in the images. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 20:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone of these images give a nice, upper body view of them. There's nothing wrong with that. You want to replace them with low quality images, and I simply cannot allow that. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 21:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, I admit, the Jupiter image is a ''bit'' low quality, but the Mars image seems okay in terms of quality. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 21:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I think not. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 21:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::::And your image is not?<span style="font-family:Calibri">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">Ποκεμανιακα0β</span>]]</span> 21:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Why are we fighting? Three admins said they like the second picture. To quote {{u|Pie}}: "Neither you nor the other user has the final say on which screenshot is best used as the displayed screenshot of an image - we, the sysops, do." That should sum it up right there, three admins like the second image, and none like the previous: the new image stays. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 22:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::As a matter of fact, ''I'' actually ''do'' like the current image now. This page can be unprotected now. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 22:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
== Hair ==
I've been doing some thinking on this...
If we said saying Mars' and Saturn's hair being compared to a Pokémon is an opinion and therefore not permitted here...how can we really sit here and let it stay for Jupiter? No matter what you say to try to defend keeping it. It is still an opinion that it looks like Medicham. Therefore I think it should be removed based on this. Anyone agree? Disagree? If you disagree, please give me a valid argument besides "It really looks like Medicham! See? Here and here?" The same thing can be said for Mars and Saturn but we already agreed that comparing them is an opinion.
So...discuss. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 00:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
== Sableye ==
In the article Faint Attack (move), in the manga section it shows that her Sableye used it.
However, under Jupiter's Sableye's known moves, it doesn't include the attack at all.
Even if it was only in the English version, we are nevertheless obligated to show the information
of all country's pokemon. {{unsigned|Confusion}}
== Jupiter's Skuntank ==
Does anyone else agree that Skuntank deserves its own page? It's Jupiter's main Pokémon, appeared in all of the episodes she did, helped Team Galactic when it saved the Lustrous Orb, and it even exists in the games. Not to mention its infobox looks pretty big, and we do have [[Saturn's Toxicroak]], after all. What does anyone else think? [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 03:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think it does. I've seen info boxes much bigger than that, and there's not much to add that cannot be explained on this page. Not much personality was shown. Even in the manga, all it has is a cameo. If a separate page was created, it would be very short and stub like. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 04:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
::Of course, we wouldn't just copy-and-paste from the infobox; if we were to expand on what it specifically did in each episode it appeared in, the history section can definitely be solid enough. As for the manga, that section always goes last, so it wouldn't need much to be added. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 04:27, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
== Using Deity/Deities derived terms when speaking generically ==
What is wrong with using deity/deities or derived terms when speaking generically (no gender connotations that is)?
[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 07:02, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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medichamp isnt native to sinnoh..... more like hoen--kittenchild and her DiscoveryA.K.A. ねこさんTalk|Contribs 03:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Medicham is in Sinnoh. Tina δ 03:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Stuntank

Isnt it impossible to get a lvl20 stuntank? Atomix26 21:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Some trainers have Pokémon below the level they evolve at, though Jupiter is a pretty extreme example. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 21:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Not as extreme as a level 16 Purugly which Mars has in the first battle. The Skuntank in question is 14 levels away from its proper evolutionary level, while Mars's Purugly is 22 levels away.
Besides, there's been evolved Pokémon prior to their previous stage's evolutionary levels since the beginning, long before the Pomeg glitch existed. Recall the level 9 Pidgeotto (evolves from Pidgey at level 18) in Viridian Forest in Yellow, and the level 7 Pidgeotto on Route 2 three years later? Or how Lance has three Dragonite in the Generation II games and none have reached level 55, where Dragonair evolves into it? --Shiningpikablu252 21:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, you can also catch Lv. 30 Skuntank, and Stunky doesn't evolve into Skuntank at Lv. 30. Same goes for Toxicroak, you can capture level 26/28 Toxicroak in Pastoria Great Marsh while Croagunk does not evolve into Toxicroak until level 37. Saturn's Girl 13:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)♥♥♥♥

Image

I think that this image looks way better than the current one, for this reason: The image I linked to first only has Jupiter in it. Also, there was no discussion to change the image, but I'm taking it to the talk because I don't wanna revert an admin. So, what do you guys think? --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 01:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree again.----HoennMaster 06:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
The Wikipedia guideline is, "the more body the better." I'd say the second image.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 08:50, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
So, this isn't Wikipedia. Also, the new picture for Saturn shows less body then the old one, so that argument doesn't work. - unsigned comment from HoennMaster (talkcontribs)
The second picture looks better quality wise. You must keep this in mind. I prefer the second one. -Sketchies 20:45, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget to sign your name please... ht14 20:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
And another thing. Saturn, Mars, and Jupiter all have this thing going with their anime screenshots where they have a Grunt at their sides. I like that. -Sketchies 20:50, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
And I don't like that. The images are supposed to be focused around the Galatic commanders, so I think the images shouldn't have any other characters in them. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 20:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Each one of them is in the middle of the image. That is focusing on them. -Sketchies 20:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it focuses on them even more if they are the only people in the images. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 20:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Everyone of these images give a nice, upper body view of them. There's nothing wrong with that. You want to replace them with low quality images, and I simply cannot allow that. -Sketchies 21:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I admit, the Jupiter image is a bit low quality, but the Mars image seems okay in terms of quality. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 21:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I think not. -Sketchies 21:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
And your image is not?~Ποκεμανιακα0β 21:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Why are we fighting? Three admins said they like the second picture. To quote Pie: "Neither you nor the other user has the final say on which screenshot is best used as the displayed screenshot of an image - we, the sysops, do." That should sum it up right there, three admins like the second image, and none like the previous: the new image stays. MoldyOrange 22:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, I actually do like the current image now. This page can be unprotected now. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 22:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Hair

I've been doing some thinking on this...

If we said saying Mars' and Saturn's hair being compared to a Pokémon is an opinion and therefore not permitted here...how can we really sit here and let it stay for Jupiter? No matter what you say to try to defend keeping it. It is still an opinion that it looks like Medicham. Therefore I think it should be removed based on this. Anyone agree? Disagree? If you disagree, please give me a valid argument besides "It really looks like Medicham! See? Here and here?" The same thing can be said for Mars and Saturn but we already agreed that comparing them is an opinion.

So...discuss. -Sketchies 00:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Sableye

In the article Faint Attack (move), in the manga section it shows that her Sableye used it. However, under Jupiter's Sableye's known moves, it doesn't include the attack at all. Even if it was only in the English version, we are nevertheless obligated to show the information of all country's pokemon. - unsigned comment from Confusion (talkcontribs)

Jupiter's Skuntank

Does anyone else agree that Skuntank deserves its own page? It's Jupiter's main Pokémon, appeared in all of the episodes she did, helped Team Galactic when it saved the Lustrous Orb, and it even exists in the games. Not to mention its infobox looks pretty big, and we do have Saturn's Toxicroak, after all. What does anyone else think? GamerGeek 03:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it does. I've seen info boxes much bigger than that, and there's not much to add that cannot be explained on this page. Not much personality was shown. Even in the manga, all it has is a cameo. If a separate page was created, it would be very short and stub like. --Pokemaster97 04:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Of course, we wouldn't just copy-and-paste from the infobox; if we were to expand on what it specifically did in each episode it appeared in, the history section can definitely be solid enough. As for the manga, that section always goes last, so it wouldn't need much to be added. GamerGeek 04:27, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Using Deity/Deities derived terms when speaking generically

What is wrong with using deity/deities or derived terms when speaking generically (no gender connotations that is)?

Jdogno4 (talk) 07:02, 25 January 2016 (UTC)