Talk:Johto Safari Zone

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Time of Day Row?

The tables need a compatible time of day row, because there are changes in encounters for the non-block Pokémon. I tried using the catchheader, catchbar and catchtime templates, but they're all one column too short. --Maxo 18:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this and can confirm that certain pokemon only appear during certain times. It should also be noted that time only affects areas with no blocks Daemonten 01:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean by that? My guide says that Wobbuffet can only be found at night and it requires 10 blocks (Yaminokame 02:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC))
Hmm, Maybe Time does have an affect on block-only pokemon as well. I wasn't sure to be honest. At any rate I went through and updated the templates to include time, and I cleaned up the page so that it at least displays unknowns in the fields I didn't know about. So we now have a time field, hooray. (And the swamp follows the templates now) Daemonten 03:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Five or six sections?

Doesn't the artwork of the johto map show six areas and not five? --DSDark 21:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I can only make out five on the scan that I've seen. Maybe you have a different one though... —darklordtrom 21:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, the map shows six areas. And if you look at the screenshot of the area changer, there seems to be something behind the menu. My question is, how did we determine what kind of areas the Safari Zone had? Judging by the info we recieved, I'd assume that the areas weren't really set. -- Ryuutakeshi 17:22, 11 August 2009
well here's a picture i did up that clearly shows six areas and not five --DSDark 01:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

New Image

Do we want a new image on this page? I have a screencap of the safari zone without the menu and it' rather good quality. --Ryuutakeshi 01:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Go on then. If it's a fail we can just delete it. —darklordtrom 01:28, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, the link's there. Can't figure out why I can't get the actual image to show.--Ryuutakeshi 01:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
You're meant to upload it onto the Bulbagarden Archives. I'll do it for you. —darklordtrom 01:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Got it. Here's the image
safarizone-1.jpg --Ryuutakeshi 01:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Guess it wasn't needed.--Ryuutakeshi 01:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
All sorted. Please, don't hotlink images directly from photobucket or any other site into a Bulbapedia article. —darklordtrom 01:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Roger that. --Ryuutakeshi 01:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

something I noticed

My image


the website image


some of the areas are different. Specifically, the bottom center one on the website image. Now, because of that menu I don't know what's behind it, but my image, from a video, doesn't show that bottom center area. Interesting, no?--Ryuutakeshi 07:17, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Pokebeach has answers:
"There are 12 unique, default maps in the Johto Safari Zone to switch around and explore for Pokemon. Each map has six zones. You switch around the maps on the computer outside the Safari Zone and can even make your own, though we haven't explored this yet. In HeartGold, we can confirm Geodude, Graveler, Magnemite, Magneton, Misdreavus, Murkrow, Magmar, and Kangaskan are capturable. Some of the Pokemon are encountered more often on specific maps. For example, you can find Koffing, Weezing, Grimer, Arbok, and Ekans far more often on the swamp map. On the planes map, you encounter Girafarig, Rattata, Abra, and Smeargle more commonly than anywhere else (perhaps exclusively for some of them). This information is subject to change as we play through the Safari Zone. Remember, the Kanto Safari Zone has been replaced by the Pal Park." --Ryuutakeshi 08:07, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


I was watching the preview of the safari zone and it shows the player catching a paras - unsigned comment from Grungle7 (talkcontribs)

The pokemon list

Should we add the location column to see what it usually best found in?

I agree since there are so many different sections a Pokémon can be found in and since Serebii presently confirms post-National Pokédex Pokémon I think a list would be a good idea. Till then I won't make any changes on this page. Right now the present one just needs, more Pokémon, the areas of where to look and time of day.-Tyler53841 15:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
There's been quite the update on the Safari Zone Section, here's the link for it - 12Medbe

Block additions

Can someone update the Pokemon template on here so that we can add block types and numbers for two different types of blocks? I have all the information for the safari zone (Kanto guide) and want to add it, but the template right now doesn't allow adding blocks. This is an example of what the block additions would look like. Can someone add block columns to it? Thanks (Yaminokame 09:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC))

Cliff Area

Pokemon Location Block 1 Block 2 Levels Rate
022 Fearow Walking --- --- --- --- Unknown Unknown
046 Paras Walking Forest 3 --- --- Unknown Unknown
074 Geodude Walking --- --- --- --- 15-17 Unknown
075 Graveler Walking --- --- --- --- Unknown Unknown
080 Slowbro Walking Water 5 --- --- Unknown Unknown
081 Magnemite Walking --- --- --- --- 15-16 Unknown
082 Magneton Walking --- --- --- --- 17 Unknown
126 Magmar Walking --- --- --- --- Unknown Unknown
126 Magmar Walking Rocky 10 --- --- Unknown Unknown
202 Wobbuffet Walking --- --- --- --- 16 Unknown
202 Wobbuffet Walking Rocky 10 --- --- Unknown Unknown
264 Linoone Walking Grassland 5 --- --- Unknown Unknown
288 Wobbuffet Walking Forest 56 Grassland 28 Unknown Unknown
305 Lairon Walking Rocky 24 --- --- Unknown Unknown
335 Zangoose Walking Grassland 12 --- --- Unknown Unknown
363 Spheal Walking Water 35 --- --- Unknown Unknown
436 Bronzor Walking Rocky 35 Forest 14 Unknown Unknown


Page says "Northeast of Cianwood City, on Route 48," however, the Johto map shows it as being northwest of Cianwood. Should this be corrected? --Zukiedo (Talk) 08:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Sealeo's Sprite

Sealeo's entry under the mountain area has a Banette sprite. This should probably be changed to a Sealeo sprite, right? Hedgey 22:36, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Block numbers

What exactly are they for? The numbers in the "Block 1" sections of the charts I mean... R.A. Hunter Blade 03:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The block numbers list the number of block items that need to be present in order to get that pokemon to appear. The information on is more clear on that for now. Daemonten 01:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Mmm... thanks. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:56, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Block Upgrade Notification?

I got a call from Baoba today, and he said something about the catchable Pokémon changing in one of the areas. Now, I believe it was a block upgrade he was notifying me about, but that seems to clash with the info in the article, especially since he mentioned that somehow you could get the original Pokémon back... Anyway, has this happened to anyone else? I thought that if I'm correct, perhaps this should be added to the article. -•Palkiajosh•

Baoba calls when an area has been upgraded. What part is conflicting exactly? (Yaminokame 02:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC))
Actually, now that I've re-read it, none of it does. I think I just misunderstood. -•Palkiajosh•

Inaccurate Maximum Block Upgrades?

There's a guide on GameFAQs (found here) that states:

"After a certain amount of time, Blocks will level up if left in an area. This will allow one Block to count for up to 7."

This would contradict what the article currently says (that the maximum possible value for any given block is 4). Now, normally I would question the guide instead of the wiki, but the guide matches our current data perfectly, as well as lists several statistics which we currently have labeled as "Unknown". The question is, which is correct-- are there only 3 possible upgrades, or is there 6? If I had any other sources, I would personally update the page, but, as it is only one source, I thought it would be better if it were checked out thoroughly by someone besides me. --VW5rbm93bj8/Pw== (dEBMaw==) 17:11, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, the article here never mentions that the numbers written on here are the maximum at all. The website you provided is correct, however putting information in this article gotten from them would be stealing from them, which is why I didn't do it a long time ago. The numbers listed on here are the upgrades necessary to get all Pokemon out through blocks. Any day count past that I couldn't prove myself, so therefore is not included yet (until someone who can, adds it) (Yaminokame 01:19, 25 April 2010 (UTC))
Then should we slap an {{incomplete}} template or something on here until we get the info? 梅子 01:26, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, I probably should have done that earlier but I had never thought about it >.< The only thing I'm afraid of is inviting someone to go copy off of another website :/ Which I guess is bound to happen eventually anyways, so no sense in worrying about it :p I would say it's a good idea :) (Yaminokame 01:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC))

Magmar's Time of Day

Can someone review the time of day Magmar can be captured? I encountered one at 7:30pm/evening, while the current article states only morning/day. (Rt117 23:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC))

Night is 8:00PM to 3:59AM (Yaminokame 02:08, 4 May 2010 (UTC))
Alright. I was confused because the screen was dark as if it were the evening. (Rt117 02:58, 4 April 2010 (UTC))
Trust me, the fact that the timeframes for the parts of day were changed between Generation II and Generation IV threw me off as well. It takes some getting used to the fact that Generation IV starts the night phase at 8 PM instead of 6 PM as it was in Generation II. --Shiningpikablu252 03:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Questions regarding Block Upgrades

I'm having trouble understanding some things about the description of Block Upgrades. Can anybody clarify the following points?

  • What does "days used" mean exactly? Does the block just need to be placed in the area, and in case I take a month-long break from playing, the 30 days will still count for the upgrades? Or does is count on how many different days I entered the area?
  • Do the upgrades count per block, or per block/area? If a block has been upgraded in the Peak area, and then gets moved to the Desert area, will it be back to level 1 there, or keep its level?

Anke 12:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

From my experience, Block Upgrades count the number of days you've entered the area; that is, you have to go to the Safari Zone and find a Pokémon in that are each day until it upgrades. Also, the upgrades definitely count per block/area, although I'm fairly certain that all plains-blocks, water-blocks, etc. in an area are upgraded at the same time (So it doesn't really matter whether you use all stumps or both stumps and branches, for instance). I can see how the page is confusing in that respect, as it took me a while to figure out all the details as well. Perhaps the wording could be changed? --AndyPKMN 13:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Question about the DS clock

Can you just set the DS clock ahead and catch pokemon that need days to appear in the area? If so, should we add it to the trivia section? Borg184 23:47, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, as I think the games have a sort of system that disallows it, like the Pal Park system or the swarm system. I think it might treat it as if it's still the same game day in the same way of the aforementioned swarm system. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 23:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Darn. Then how else can I get a Beldum :P Thanks though Borg184 23:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC)