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Wow, the formatting is horrid. Any way to stack those?--BJG
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:Wow, the formatting is horrid. Any way to stack those?--BJG
::This is really the bst we can do at the moment with mass-learned moves, I believe.  Any more specific problems with the page format? [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 10:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
:::I haven't been able to check how well the list boxes behave in IE - if they don't work as expected, what will result is a vertical stack of bordered boxes, which admittedly doesn't look very nice. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 10:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
::::I just checked what it looks like in IE, they display as a horizontal row of boxes, also Ho-oh is split into 3 lines, [http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/IE_HyperBeamArticle.jpg screenshot] - [[User:MTC|MTC]] 10:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
:::::Internet Explorer strikes again! Sigh. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 10:54, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
::::::Actually, a JavaScrip bot should probably be able to replace data such as class="listcol" and replace with some nicer stuff like style="bla".I could probably do that.It's not actually that hard. [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 22:32, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
:::::::The Ho-oh thing is to do with word-wrapping. (IE thinks a hyphen is a good place to wrap words, other browsers don't.) A Javascript solution is a bit extreme. All we need to do is to write alternate CSS for IE users. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 07:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC) [[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I was thinking a JavaScript that modidfied the contents of each page, as opposed to one directly inside the page. The thing is that JavaScript is good at sneaking this stuff in if run from a frame-based page. I wasn't thinking of integrated scripts. Also, what language is BulbaBot? [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 20:59, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::No.Do not change the content. Especially do not change the class back into a style. It's easier to manage them that way. There are thousands of these list boxes on hundreds of pages, with a class you can have all of them behave the same way. FYI, BulbaBot is PHP. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 06:53, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yeah I say leave it for now;unless you want me to hyper beam you all into oblivion.[[User:Agent008]]
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Doesnt Ash's Kingler use hyper beam when he's in his first pokemon league? --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 01:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
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The line "It can be learned via TM by all fully-evolved Pokémon that can learn TMs" taken from this article is false. Girafarig is fully evolved yet is unable to learn either Hyper Beam or Giga Impact. There could be more Pokemon like this, but the quoted line definitely needs to be rewritten. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 22:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
:...in which, Girafarig might NOT be fully evolved. Who knows. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 22:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
::"...including Pokémon that were fully evolved at one point (such as Porygon or Seadra)." I didn't realize Porygon2, Porygon-Z and Kingdra existed! --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Welcome to GSC. :) [[User:Orange|Orange]] 03:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 
I dont get it. in the anime, all fully evolved pokemon can learn hyper beam and giga impact, but only sevral in the games. why/--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 16:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Movelearning data ==
 
Venonat and Kabuto could learn it from TM, then lost that ability in Gen2.
 
Dratini and Dragonair and Larvitar and Pupitar and Trapinch and Vibrava and Metang and Nuzleaf and Remoraid can learn Hyper Beam but not Giga Impact.
 
Stantler has Giga Impact but not Hyper Beam.
 
That's the report. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Pic Overload ==
 
Anyone agree in reducing the number of pics for the page? We have more than 20 pics in there!! [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 06:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. We should get rid of the "charging up" images. <sup><big>[[user:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">Cho</span>]][[user talk:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">col</span>]][[special:contributions/chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">ate</span>]]</big></sup> 15:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely, this and {{m|Shadow Ball}}(?)--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 15:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::There aren't nearly as many images on Shadow Ball, but charging up-style images aren't really needed at all. <sup><big>[[user:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">Cho</span>]][[user talk:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">col</span>]][[special:contributions/chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">ate</span>]]</big></sup> 15:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


This is really the bst we can do at the moment with mass-learned moves, I believe.  Any more specific problems with the page format? [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 10:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
==Power?==
Is it true that Hyperbeam is the most powerful attack. It doesn't sound right to me, but if not, could somebody make a list of more powerful attacks?--[[User:Qim1|Qim1]] 20:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


I haven't been able to check how well the list boxes behave in IE - if they don't work as expected, what will result is a vertical stack of bordered boxes, which admittedly doesn't look very nice. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 10:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
==Defense Halved?==
I don't recall ever hearing about defense being halved by this move in Generation I before I read it here, and from my experience I don't think it sounds right.  That would make it actually stronger than SelfDestruct in this Generation.  Could anyone verify this? [[User:Schreiber|Schreiber]] 22:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
: I'm also doubting that information... Where does this defense lowered thing come from? [[User:Neo_Qwerty|<font color="000000">Neo <small>QWERTY</small></font>]] 18:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
: I found [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39968 this thread] which seems to refute the idea of Hyper Beam halving defense. I'll do some testing on my own; I really doubt it halves defense, though. --[[User:MaskedFalcon|MaskedFalcon]] 15:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hyper Beam was also a Physical move early on, although I don't know which generation it became Special. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:38, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::In the first three gens, physicality/specialty is tied to type. All Normal moves, then, are physical.
:::I haven't had the time to test this move but will soon. One pretty good test would be to raise a Persian with Slash and Hyper Beam. If Hyper Beam truly halves defense, it should do more than double Slash's damage. [[User:MaskedFalcon|MaskedFalcon]] 16:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Tested with a level 29 Dragonite (83 atk) and a level 100 Mew (220 def). Slam did 8 points of damage to Mew. Hyper Beam dealt 16. Confirmed that it does not halve defense. - [[User:EkanselttaR|EkanselttaR]]


I just checked what it looks like in IE, they display as a horizontal row of boxes, also Ho-oh is split into 3 lines, [http://uk.geocities.com/mt.cutler@btinternet.com/IE_HyperBeamArticle.jpg screenshot] - [[User:MTC|MTC]] 10:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
== Lance ==
Should it be noted somewhere that it is the signature move of Lance? [[User:Don Lark Kiin|Don Lark Kiin]]
:No. Just because a certain trainer commonly uses a move does not mean that it is 'his signature move'. If you would like to know the correct usage of the term Signature move, please look [[signature move|here]] thank you. --[[User:Gen1king|<span style="color:gold">''GEN''</span>]]1[[User talk:Gen1king|<span style="color:gold">KING</span>]] 07:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
:: Here's the funny part. Gym Leaders and Elite Four in Red/Green/Blue do have "signature moves", or at least a move on their last Pokémon that differentiates it from a wild one of its species. Brock's Onix uses Bide, Misty's Starmie uses Bubblebeam, and so forth. So if you're willing to stretch the definition of signature move, Lance ''does'' have one, but it's not what you'd expect. It's his Dragonite's Barrier! [[User:MaskedFalcon|MaskedFalcon]] 00:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


Internet Explorer strikes again! Sigh. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 10:54, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
==Error==
In the section where pokemon use Hyper Beam, for Regirock, there is only movie 8 and Brandon's Regirock. There is no wild Regirock in DP 129, its under the ownership of Brandon...[[User:Chomi|Chomi]] 10:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


Actually, a JavaScrip bot should probably be able to replace data such as class="listcol" and replace with some nicer stuff like style="bla". I could probably do that. It's not actually that hard. [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 22:32, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
== Screenshot ==


The Ho-oh thing is to do with word-wrapping. (IE thinks a hyphen is a good place to wrap words, other browsers don't.) A Javascript solution is a bit extreme. All we need to do is to write alternate CSS for IE users. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 07:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Does the image need to be changed to English? Or do we leave it as a Japanese image? [[User:Super Ampharos|Super Ampharos]] 22:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


I was thinking a JavaScript that modidfied the contents of each page, as opposed to one directly inside the page. The thing is that JavaScript is good at sneaking this stuff in if run from a frame-based page. I wasn't thinking of integrated scripts. Also, what language is BulbaBot? [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 20:59, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
== Lethal ==


No. Do not change the content. Especially do not change the class back into a style. It's easier to manage them that way. There are thousands of these list boxes on hundreds of pages, with a class you can have all of them behave the same way. FYI, BulbaBot is PHP. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 06:53, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
In the episode ''Stopped in the Name of Love'', Dawn implies that Hyper Beam is lethal, as by using Bide to reflect the Ariados attack. Is this potentially worth mentioning? '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#00693E">Toon Ganondorf</span> ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">(t</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">c)</span>]]''' 10:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


== Still not final stage ==


Doesnt Ash's Kingler use hyper beam when he's in his first pokemon league? --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 01:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
It Says: "Dratini, Larvitar, Remoraid, Trapinch, Metang, and Klink are the only Pokémon that can learn Hyper Beam without reaching their final evolutionary stage." Could not Dragonair, Pupitar, Vibrava and Klang be added? [[User:BrasilLucasSant|BrasilLucasSant]] 00:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC-3)
:I'd say so. [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 04:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


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== Sound effect ==


The line "It can be learned via TM by all fully-evolved Pokémon that can learn TMs" taken from this article is false. Girafarig is fully evolved yet is unable to learn either Hyper Beam or Giga Impact. There could be more Pokemon like this, but the quoted line definitely needs to be rewritten. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 22:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Not sure if this happens with other attacks but I noticed that the sound effect for Hyper Beam in Battle Revolution sounds similar if not identical to the sfx of shadow moves from XD: Gale of Darkness. Would it be notable to put this in the trivia?[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 09:17, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
:The animations of many moves in PBR are more or less identical to how they appear in XD, and the same goes for sound effects. It wouldn't be notable. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 12:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 12:23, 26 June 2017


Wow, the formatting is horrid. Any way to stack those?--BJG
This is really the bst we can do at the moment with mass-learned moves, I believe. Any more specific problems with the page format? evkl 10:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I haven't been able to check how well the list boxes behave in IE - if they don't work as expected, what will result is a vertical stack of bordered boxes, which admittedly doesn't look very nice. - 振霖T 10:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I just checked what it looks like in IE, they display as a horizontal row of boxes, also Ho-oh is split into 3 lines, screenshot - MTC 10:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Internet Explorer strikes again! Sigh. - Ferret 10:54, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Actually, a JavaScrip bot should probably be able to replace data such as class="listcol" and replace with some nicer stuff like style="bla".I could probably do that.It's not actually that hard. Coppro 22:32, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
The Ho-oh thing is to do with word-wrapping. (IE thinks a hyphen is a good place to wrap words, other browsers don't.) A Javascript solution is a bit extreme. All we need to do is to write alternate CSS for IE users. - 振霖T 07:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC) ZellMurasame 02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking a JavaScript that modidfied the contents of each page, as opposed to one directly inside the page. The thing is that JavaScript is good at sneaking this stuff in if run from a frame-based page. I wasn't thinking of integrated scripts. Also, what language is BulbaBot? Coppro 20:59, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
No.Do not change the content. Especially do not change the class back into a style. It's easier to manage them that way. There are thousands of these list boxes on hundreds of pages, with a class you can have all of them behave the same way. FYI, BulbaBot is PHP. - 振霖T 06:53, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I say leave it for now;unless you want me to hyper beam you all into oblivion.User:Agent008

Doesnt Ash's Kingler use hyper beam when he's in his first pokemon league? --Itxi 01:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


The line "It can be learned via TM by all fully-evolved Pokémon that can learn TMs" taken from this article is false. Girafarig is fully evolved yet is unable to learn either Hyper Beam or Giga Impact. There could be more Pokemon like this, but the quoted line definitely needs to be rewritten. --ZellMurasame 22:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

...in which, Girafarig might NOT be fully evolved. Who knows. Tina δ 22:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
"...including Pokémon that were fully evolved at one point (such as Porygon or Seadra)." I didn't realize Porygon2, Porygon-Z and Kingdra existed! --ZellMurasame 02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to GSC. :) Orange 03:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I dont get it. in the anime, all fully evolved pokemon can learn hyper beam and giga impact, but only sevral in the games. why/--Tomas 16:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Movelearning data

Venonat and Kabuto could learn it from TM, then lost that ability in Gen2.

Dratini and Dragonair and Larvitar and Pupitar and Trapinch and Vibrava and Metang and Nuzleaf and Remoraid can learn Hyper Beam but not Giga Impact.

Stantler has Giga Impact but not Hyper Beam.

That's the report. --Raijinili 04:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Pic Overload

Anyone agree in reducing the number of pics for the page? We have more than 20 pics in there!! Jmath 06:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. We should get rid of the "charging up" images. Chocolate 15:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Definitely, this and Shadow Ball(?)--KukiTalk 15:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
There aren't nearly as many images on Shadow Ball, but charging up-style images aren't really needed at all. Chocolate 15:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Power?

Is it true that Hyperbeam is the most powerful attack. It doesn't sound right to me, but if not, could somebody make a list of more powerful attacks?--Qim1 20:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Defense Halved?

I don't recall ever hearing about defense being halved by this move in Generation I before I read it here, and from my experience I don't think it sounds right. That would make it actually stronger than SelfDestruct in this Generation. Could anyone verify this? Schreiber 22:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm also doubting that information... Where does this defense lowered thing come from? Neo QWERTY 18:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I found this thread which seems to refute the idea of Hyper Beam halving defense. I'll do some testing on my own; I really doubt it halves defense, though. --MaskedFalcon 15:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Hyper Beam was also a Physical move early on, although I don't know which generation it became Special. R.A. Hunter Blade 20:38, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
In the first three gens, physicality/specialty is tied to type. All Normal moves, then, are physical.
I haven't had the time to test this move but will soon. One pretty good test would be to raise a Persian with Slash and Hyper Beam. If Hyper Beam truly halves defense, it should do more than double Slash's damage. MaskedFalcon 16:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Tested with a level 29 Dragonite (83 atk) and a level 100 Mew (220 def). Slam did 8 points of damage to Mew. Hyper Beam dealt 16. Confirmed that it does not halve defense. - EkanselttaR

Lance

Should it be noted somewhere that it is the signature move of Lance? Don Lark Kiin

No. Just because a certain trainer commonly uses a move does not mean that it is 'his signature move'. If you would like to know the correct usage of the term Signature move, please look here thank you. --GEN1KING 07:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Here's the funny part. Gym Leaders and Elite Four in Red/Green/Blue do have "signature moves", or at least a move on their last Pokémon that differentiates it from a wild one of its species. Brock's Onix uses Bide, Misty's Starmie uses Bubblebeam, and so forth. So if you're willing to stretch the definition of signature move, Lance does have one, but it's not what you'd expect. It's his Dragonite's Barrier! MaskedFalcon 00:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Error

In the section where pokemon use Hyper Beam, for Regirock, there is only movie 8 and Brandon's Regirock. There is no wild Regirock in DP 129, its under the ownership of Brandon...Chomi 10:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Screenshot

Does the image need to be changed to English? Or do we leave it as a Japanese image? Super Ampharos 22:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Lethal

In the episode Stopped in the Name of Love, Dawn implies that Hyper Beam is lethal, as by using Bide to reflect the Ariados attack. Is this potentially worth mentioning? Toon Ganondorf (t c) 10:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Still not final stage

It Says: "Dratini, Larvitar, Remoraid, Trapinch, Metang, and Klink are the only Pokémon that can learn Hyper Beam without reaching their final evolutionary stage." Could not Dragonair, Pupitar, Vibrava and Klang be added? BrasilLucasSant 00:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC-3)

I'd say so. CuboneKing 04:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Sound effect

Not sure if this happens with other attacks but I noticed that the sound effect for Hyper Beam in Battle Revolution sounds similar if not identical to the sfx of shadow moves from XD: Gale of Darkness. Would it be notable to put this in the trivia?Nikuriku (talk) 09:17, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

The animations of many moves in PBR are more or less identical to how they appear in XD, and the same goes for sound effects. It wouldn't be notable. VioletPumpkin (talk) 12:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)