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:::I don't think this page should be called 'Hihihiroshi'. I don't care if Rival (B2W2) looks untidy, 'Hihihiroshi' is only a fan name, meaning it shouldn't be called that. I mean, it would be exactly the same if we called Snivy 'Smugleaf' before its English name was officially revealed. Seeing as we never speculate on Bulbapedia, and we never go by rumours or fan-made stuff either, I think the name should be changed to just 'Rival (B2W2)'. Calling the page 'Hihihiroshi' is both ridiculous, as he would never be called that, and unconfirmed too. Please change it to Rival (B2W2). [[User:Don't Hug Lucario!|Don't Hug Lucario!]] 14:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't think this page should be called 'Hihihiroshi'. I don't care if Rival (B2W2) looks untidy, 'Hihihiroshi' is only a fan name, meaning it shouldn't be called that. I mean, it would be exactly the same if we called Snivy 'Smugleaf' before its English name was officially revealed. Seeing as we never speculate on Bulbapedia, and we never go by rumours or fan-made stuff either, I think the name should be changed to just 'Rival (B2W2)'. Calling the page 'Hihihiroshi' is both ridiculous, as he would never be called that, and unconfirmed too. Please change it to Rival (B2W2). [[User:Don't Hug Lucario!|Don't Hug Lucario!]] 14:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No.  As I have already explained above, we have a precedent set for using widely-used fandom names for things with no official name to override its usage.  The Smugleaf argument is irrelevant because we always had the official name of "Tsutarja" to override it. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 03:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No.  As I have already explained above, we have a precedent set for using widely-used fandom names for things with no official name to override its usage.  The Smugleaf argument is irrelevant because we always had the official name of "Tsutarja" to override it. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 03:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Agreeing with Umeko, and to add my own 10 cents, June is right around the corner so we'll be getting his official name soon, it's not like people have to put up with "Hihihiroshi" for a year. Also, the name is still part of trivia, so the fan name will still be mentioned in the article regardless if people like it or not. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 03:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
== First Battle ==
Can we just take that out, or add more? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 00:23, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
:Why? <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 00:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Pringles. If there is going to be starter pokemon info, why can't all three be put up, instead of just the player having Oshawott? What about Tepig and Snivy?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 13:38, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Because we only know what his Snivy is going to have. How are we supposed to have Oshawott and Tepig's moves if they've never been seen? We're using what we have so far, and that's a few lines, and a single battle where the player chose Oshawott. The game will be out in a few weeks, I don't see why we need to remove it now, just so it can be re-added ''again'' (because someone already removed it once) later with the exact same information on it. It just seems like giving ourselves more work and a waste of time. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 16:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Ok. Thanks. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:37, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
== English trailer. ==
According to English trailer, he didn't received starter. He already had it, as he said ''"I'll use my <starter> that I raised from an Egg!"''. Since when Bianca gives out Eggs? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 15:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:I could be wrong, but I watched the trailer as well. I heard him say ''something'' about an Egg, but I don't recall him saying that it was his starter. Like I said, I could be wrong, but Hugh is shown with a {{p|Samurott}}. I'm not doubting that Samurott hatched, it's just hard to believe. The ''only'' starter eggs I've seen are {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Mudkip}}, and {{p|Eevee}}. It makes me wonder, though, if Hugh should be listed with Samurott, despite this only occurring in the trailer. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 17:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
== Challenge Mode ==
I was adding in Hugh's Challenge Mode teams (which is really just higher levels and more money earned), but it said Template include size is too big. I didn't save those changes obviously because then some templates wouldn't be shown. How can we fix it so that people can see his Normal Mode & Challenge Mode teams? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 11:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
:I'd say the best option would be to split Hugh's Challenge mode, and if possible, Assist mode parties into their own pages, like what is done for rivals that appear in more than one set of versions. Example: {{redlink|Cheren/Black_and_White|Cheren in BW}}. - [[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#F85888">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]] 00:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
::Challenge and Assist move don't alter his teams or movepools though. Would it be possible to do a hover-over asterisk next to the levels denoting this? [[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] ([[User talk:Chicobo329|talk]]) 00:05, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it would be better that if Challenge or Assist modes don't change anything /but/ levels (and therefore money earned), that that should be noted below the header of the affected battles, like:
*'''Challenge Mode''': +4 lvs, P1000
*'''Assist Mode''': -2 lvs, P800
::::[[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 00:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
== Name origin ==
Corrected the Catalan spelling. Tweaked German and Spanish descriptions to be less repetitive. Also, in all his battle themes in-game he's refereced as 'Hue', for example SEQ_BGM_VS_HUE.--[[User:Master Emerald|Master Emerald]] ([[User talk:Master Emerald|talk]]) 22:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
== Qwilfish ==
Several Team Plasma state in-game that his hair resembles a Qwilfish. Should it be in trivia? (If it was there and removed, never mind this comment) --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:13, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
== Hue/Hyuu ==
Why is his name spelled as "hue" (how should one even pronounce that?) when the Japanese spelling is "Hyuu"? {{unsigned|Eevee-Girl}}
:Hugh, Hue, and Hyuu are all pronounced the same. It is spelled ヒュウ in Japanese because that's how you phonetically pronounce 'hue' (and just happens to use the characters to spell Hyuu). Also, please always sign your talk page comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
== Manga ==
Where in the manga does he debut? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 04:18, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
== Own article for manga Hugh ==
Should Hugh have his own article for Pokemon Adventures? All the past rivals, including the non-Dexholders, had their own articles and Hugh will probably be a major character anyway. And not to mention, he had his own prologue. [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 18:01, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:Its being created in [[User:Pattyman/Hugh (Adventures)|my userspace]]. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 18:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
== Hugh's sister ==
I think that Hugh's sister should have her own article. She qualifies as a major enough character in my book. [[Emboar|<span style="color:#AB0047;">This</span>]] [[Butch|<span style="color:#AB0047;">is</span>]] [[Cassidy|<span style="color:#AB0047;">Mkbw50</span>]] [[Ritchie|<span style="color:#AB0047;">signing</span>]] [[User:Mkbw50|<span style="color:#AB0047;">off</span>]]  20:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Anyone here... I think this is serious.[[Emboar|<span style="color:#AB0047;">This</span>]] [[Butch|<span style="color:#AB0047;">is</span>]] [[Cassidy|<span style="color:#AB0047;">Mkbw50</span>]] [[Ritchie|<span style="color:#AB0047;">signing</span>]] [[User:Mkbw50|<span style="color:#AB0047;">off</span>]]  20:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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Really?

Really? --Maxim 16:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Yup. 梅子 16:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure if that's a good idea. I think that Rival (BW2) works better for the temporary article name. Also, we're not gonna call the girl character Hana, are we? --Maxim 17:05, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
We have a precedent set for using fandom names as placeholders when there are no known official names to override it (eg. having Lyra at Soul (game) prior to learning her name was Kotone). The fandom name in this case sounds rather silly, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it has indeed become the fandom's name for this character. It's not like we're presenting it as the actual official name, and imo it doesn't look as sloppy as something like Rival (B2W2) would. 梅子 17:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Also (I couldn't think of the best way to explain this earlier, but now I've mulled it over), when the time comes that we will inevitably have to relink everything to his official name, it will be much easier and efficient to double-click-select a single word to replace, rather than manually highlighting a group of words and parentheses. Essentially, it's just going to make our jobs a whole lot easier, especially when we'll have a whole other bunch of info to worry about upon the games' release. 梅子 20:29, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't think this page should be called 'Hihihiroshi'. I don't care if Rival (B2W2) looks untidy, 'Hihihiroshi' is only a fan name, meaning it shouldn't be called that. I mean, it would be exactly the same if we called Snivy 'Smugleaf' before its English name was officially revealed. Seeing as we never speculate on Bulbapedia, and we never go by rumours or fan-made stuff either, I think the name should be changed to just 'Rival (B2W2)'. Calling the page 'Hihihiroshi' is both ridiculous, as he would never be called that, and unconfirmed too. Please change it to Rival (B2W2). Don't Hug Lucario! 14:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
No. As I have already explained above, we have a precedent set for using widely-used fandom names for things with no official name to override its usage. The Smugleaf argument is irrelevant because we always had the official name of "Tsutarja" to override it. 梅子 03:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Agreeing with Umeko, and to add my own 10 cents, June is right around the corner so we'll be getting his official name soon, it's not like people have to put up with "Hihihiroshi" for a year. Also, the name is still part of trivia, so the fan name will still be mentioned in the article regardless if people like it or not. Rai Marshall 03:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

First Battle

Can we just take that out, or add more? -- Pringles 00:23, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Why? Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 00:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Pringles. If there is going to be starter pokemon info, why can't all three be put up, instead of just the player having Oshawott? What about Tepig and Snivy?--Pokemon26 13:38, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Because we only know what his Snivy is going to have. How are we supposed to have Oshawott and Tepig's moves if they've never been seen? We're using what we have so far, and that's a few lines, and a single battle where the player chose Oshawott. The game will be out in a few weeks, I don't see why we need to remove it now, just so it can be re-added again (because someone already removed it once) later with the exact same information on it. It just seems like giving ourselves more work and a waste of time. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 16:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks. -- Pringles 23:37, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

English trailer.

According to English trailer, he didn't received starter. He already had it, as he said "I'll use my <starter> that I raised from an Egg!". Since when Bianca gives out Eggs? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I could be wrong, but I watched the trailer as well. I heard him say something about an Egg, but I don't recall him saying that it was his starter. Like I said, I could be wrong, but Hugh is shown with a Samurott. I'm not doubting that Samurott hatched, it's just hard to believe. The only starter eggs I've seen are Cyndaquil, Mudkip, and Eevee. It makes me wonder, though, if Hugh should be listed with Samurott, despite this only occurring in the trailer. WATERWarrior67 17:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Challenge Mode

I was adding in Hugh's Challenge Mode teams (which is really just higher levels and more money earned), but it said Template include size is too big. I didn't save those changes obviously because then some templates wouldn't be shown. How can we fix it so that people can see his Normal Mode & Challenge Mode teams? Torpoleon (talk) 11:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd say the best option would be to split Hugh's Challenge mode, and if possible, Assist mode parties into their own pages, like what is done for rivals that appear in more than one set of versions. Example: Cheren in BW. - Chosen of Mana 00:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Challenge and Assist move don't alter his teams or movepools though. Would it be possible to do a hover-over asterisk next to the levels denoting this? Chicobo329 (talk) 00:05, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I think it would be better that if Challenge or Assist modes don't change anything /but/ levels (and therefore money earned), that that should be noted below the header of the affected battles, like:
  • Challenge Mode: +4 lvs, P1000
  • Assist Mode: -2 lvs, P800
Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Name origin

Corrected the Catalan spelling. Tweaked German and Spanish descriptions to be less repetitive. Also, in all his battle themes in-game he's refereced as 'Hue', for example SEQ_BGM_VS_HUE.--Master Emerald (talk) 22:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Qwilfish

Several Team Plasma state in-game that his hair resembles a Qwilfish. Should it be in trivia? (If it was there and removed, never mind this comment) --Abcboy (talk) 21:13, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Hue/Hyuu

Why is his name spelled as "hue" (how should one even pronounce that?) when the Japanese spelling is "Hyuu"? - unsigned comment from Eevee-Girl (talkcontribs)

Hugh, Hue, and Hyuu are all pronounced the same. It is spelled ヒュウ in Japanese because that's how you phonetically pronounce 'hue' (and just happens to use the characters to spell Hyuu). Also, please always sign your talk page comments with ~~~~. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 17:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Manga

Where in the manga does he debut? -- Pringles 04:18, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Own article for manga Hugh

Should Hugh have his own article for Pokemon Adventures? All the past rivals, including the non-Dexholders, had their own articles and Hugh will probably be a major character anyway. And not to mention, he had his own prologue. Arceus101 (talk) 18:01, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Its being created in my userspace. PattyMan 18:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Hugh's sister

I think that Hugh's sister should have her own article. She qualifies as a major enough character in my book. This is Mkbw50 signing off 20:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Anyone here... I think this is serious.This is Mkbw50 signing off 20:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)