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The implication given in this article is that Tajiri and friends made Capsule Monsters in 1975 - at the age of 10, 9 for Sugimori, and that Game Freak and Creatures existed before then. This is highly improbable. [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 09:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
The implication given in this article is that Tajiri and friends made Capsule Monsters in 1975 - at the age of 10, 9 for Sugimori, and that Game Freak and Creatures existed before then. This is highly improbable. [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 09:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


I believe I can finally clarify this.  I've traced this rumor back to a single magazine: the "100% Unofficial Pokémon Trainer's Guide" published by Hard Core Gaming Guides.  In it, there is a timeline of Pokémon that claims that they debuted in a manga in the 1970s.  The picture of said manga?  A close-up of ''Doraemon''!  Clearly, whoever was during research for this magazine just assumed that one "mon" was as good as another.  I hope this finally puts this rumor to rest. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] ([[User talk:Zeta|talk]]) 23:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
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I think this page needs more. It's very game-centric, barely mentioning the anime and manga and the other parts of the franchise that made it a worldwide phenomenon. It also editorializes. Who's to say that D/P makes a "wonderful addition" to the franchise? Just a thought. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 18:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I think this page needs more. It's very game-centric, barely mentioning the anime and manga and the other parts of the franchise that made it a worldwide phenomenon. It also editorializes. Who's to say that D/P makes a "wonderful addition" to the franchise? Just a thought. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 18:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
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I'm sure someone else can come up with something better sounding that fits the tone of the article, but hopefully yo get what i mean, though. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 22:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure someone else can come up with something better sounding that fits the tone of the article, but hopefully yo get what i mean, though. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 22:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
== Pokémon who debuted before their generation ==
Is it possible that we could make a page like this? Listing the Pokémon that made their debut before their respective generation officially debuted? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 00:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
== Rewrite future sections. ==
I rewrote the section on the future of Pokémon. Is it good enough to takeaway the template for not good enough? [[User:Sandshrew-san|Sandshrew-san]] ([[User talk:Sandshrew-san|talk]]) 06:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
== Idea for a branch article: Timeline of notable dates? ==
I think we can agree that this article stands as a good, useful documentation of the history of the franchise.  However, it occurs to me that there's another potential use for this article that's being limited by all the text:  Looking up and comparing important dates, such as when the different games or anime series launched, or even some important fandom dates if consensus deems them notable.  Perhaps another article could be started that's a barebones duplicate of this one, stripped down to just the dates and formatted as a running timeline?  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 15:50, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
== Gen 7 ==
Perhaps some updates are required? ==<span style="background:#2255CC"><span style="color:#FFBB22">'''''13thehappykid'''''.</span></span>== 01:58, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:58, 1 April 2017

I'm glad "Capsule Monsters" didn't stay. If it did stay, they would've been called "Capsümon" or something in America. I don't think "Capsümon" would have the same appeal.--Pokencyclopedia 17:47, 1 September 2005 (CDT)

Not necessarily, since there wouldn't be any risk of copyright infringment like there was with the Monster in My Pocket franchise.Woopert 21:08, 9 September 2005 (CDT)

The 1975 manga

Both this article and a page on PokéCharms have information on a manga released in 1975 called Capsule Monsters which, according to these pages, was the precursor to what eventually became Pokémon Red and Green. Lately I've been curious about the source of this information, doing several Google searches and even looking through a book about Satoshi Tajiri that I recently ordered from Amazon.co.jp, but so far I haven't found anything.

Now, it's likely that I haven't looked hard enough, but the skeptic in me has doubts about the existence of this manga. Anyone care to direct me to a source so I can set aside these doubts? Woopert 21:08, 9 September 2005 (CDT)

I can find references to Capsule Monsters being the prototype name for Pocket Monsters on Japanese webpages, but nothing specific regarding any manga. --Argy 23:12, 9 September 2005 (CDT)

The implication given in this article is that Tajiri and friends made Capsule Monsters in 1975 - at the age of 10, 9 for Sugimori, and that Game Freak and Creatures existed before then. This is highly improbable. Punkrockrevel 09:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe I can finally clarify this. I've traced this rumor back to a single magazine: the "100% Unofficial Pokémon Trainer's Guide" published by Hard Core Gaming Guides. In it, there is a timeline of Pokémon that claims that they debuted in a manga in the 1970s. The picture of said manga? A close-up of Doraemon! Clearly, whoever was during research for this magazine just assumed that one "mon" was as good as another. I hope this finally puts this rumor to rest. --Zeta (talk) 23:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)


I think this page needs more. It's very game-centric, barely mentioning the anime and manga and the other parts of the franchise that made it a worldwide phenomenon. It also editorializes. Who's to say that D/P makes a "wonderful addition" to the franchise? Just a thought. --Greengiant 18:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed on both points. --Pie ~ 18:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Capsule Monsters

I think the idea of Capsule Monsters comes from Ultramen series. Capsule Monsters was first appeared in Ultra Seven (October 1, 1967 – September 8, 1968). Quote from Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_Seven ): "Capsule monsters: When unable to fight (usually because his Ultra Eye has been stolen), Dan will often produce a small capsule that releases a giant-sized monster to fight in his place. Although he is shown to have four or five capsules, only three capsule monsters are shown in the series, Windam, Micras, and Agira." Also, Satoshi Tajiri in his interview ( http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/99/1122/pokemon6.fullinterview1.html ) waw said: "Everything I did as a kid is kind of rolled into one--that's what Pokémon is. Playing video games, watching TV, Ultraman with his capsule monsters--they all became ingredients for the game." And also: "I was absorbed with Ultraman on TV and in manga."

Could we maybe redo this article so it's less...blatant? Most of it, the Diamond and Pearl section especially, sounds like a Nintendo PR wrote it.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 01:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Done

Well, I gave this article a much-needed makeover and made it as wide as possible, coverig all (if that's even possible) areas of Pokémon. It is now almost three times its original size and I think I'm done, but I still think something's missing. My manga and TCG knowledge is limited, and there are other things I might've forgot. --electAbuzzzz (TALK) 08:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

manga's english resurgence

I was thinking, maybe there should be something about how lately many of the manga series are now appearing in english. Over the last year whenever i'd browse the manga section at my local bookstore, i've been seeing more and more Pokemon manga each time: The Mystery Dungeons mangas, Movie adaptions, DP Adventures, and now the new re-releases of Pokemon Adventures.

Maybe the article should say something like "though initially not many of the mangas were released in the U.S., and those that were didn't sell well, lately a lot of mangas are now being released in the US for the first time, as well as re-releases of the ones that were previously released here."

I'm sure someone else can come up with something better sounding that fits the tone of the article, but hopefully yo get what i mean, though. Morgil27 22:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon who debuted before their generation

Is it possible that we could make a page like this? Listing the Pokémon that made their debut before their respective generation officially debuted? --Landfish7 00:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Rewrite future sections.

I rewrote the section on the future of Pokémon. Is it good enough to takeaway the template for not good enough? Sandshrew-san (talk) 06:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Idea for a branch article: Timeline of notable dates?

I think we can agree that this article stands as a good, useful documentation of the history of the franchise. However, it occurs to me that there's another potential use for this article that's being limited by all the text: Looking up and comparing important dates, such as when the different games or anime series launched, or even some important fandom dates if consensus deems them notable. Perhaps another article could be started that's a barebones duplicate of this one, stripped down to just the dates and formatted as a running timeline? --Pie ~ 15:50, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Gen 7

Perhaps some updates are required? ==13thehappykid.== 01:58, 1 April 2017 (UTC)