Talk:Hilda (game)

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Permission to edit? ht14 22:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Silent Hills

Where did this come from? This was the name used for the starting down in the Gold and Silver beta version, I doubt they're going to use it considering the Silent Hill series. - unsigned comment from Phantomjunkie (talkcontribs)


to add Kanoko Town, please?--PhantomJunkie 15:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Her apparent default name?

I keep seeing her name being defaulted as Touko (トウコ), apparently from the Battle Subway as a tag-battle partner. Does anyone have any confirmation so we can move the page? Pocketfanmk 00:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


Even though Adventures calls her White and here she was also temporarily called such, everyother site I've been to prior to the release called her BLACK. Same thing with Touya, as he was called WHITE on everyother site. I don't really recommend that kind of trivia if only this site was who called them such, as the popular choice was White for Touya and Black for Touko prior to the manga. Shiramu Kuromu 16:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

What? I've been always hearing the opposite. --Maxim 16:29, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Right, it's the exact opposite of that, Shiramu Kuromu. Pre-release images and videos were all calling Touya "Black" and Touko "White." 梅子 16:41, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Then please state otherwise on the trivia, because if official pre-release information refered to Touya as Black and Touko as White, you should mention it was pre-release info that said those names instead of the fans, as the fans said Touya is White and Touko is Black. Shiramu Kuromu 18:43, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
It used to say that it was pre-release info we got the names from... idk, I've been away from Bulbapedia for a while, I don't know what's been going on. ;D Also I had no idea that the fans used the opposite names... I'm more familiar with the habits of the Japanese fans, who unquestionably had called Touya "Black" and Touko "White." From what I heard from others though I could have sworn English fans used the same names... huh. 梅子 18:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Most English fans did call Touya "Black" and Touko "White". I actually haven't seen a single instance in any forums where they have been referred to as the opposite. --HoennMaster 03:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Can you give some examples of fansites that had Touko as Black and Touya as White? --SnorlaxMonster 03:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Move to Whitlea

Even the Japanese site says it.--immewnitythemew 23:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

The names used on screenshots are never the same as their NPC names. Learn from the past. Blair and Whitlea are like Heart and Soul, just made less obvious. Their Battle Subway names will be something different, I'm sure. --Maxim 23:29, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Nuvema Town

She's now from Nuvema Town; the page's protected so can someone change that please. Pocketfanmk 14:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Hilda's Pokemon

I have two of Hilda's Balance Pokémon:

Electross Lv. 50♂ Ability:Levitate Item: Leftovers Move1:Charge beam Move2:Grass knot Move3:Flamethrower Move4:Protect

Vanilluxe Lv.50♂ Ability: Ice Body Item: Sitrus berry Move1: Taunt Move2: Ice beam Move3:Acid Armor Move4: Mirror Coat

Can someone insert these? I am just a beginner.


ME too, but no moves i can remember, Reunclus and chandelure and I believe Manibuzz

Moar Balanced Pokeymanz!

Durant lv.50♂ Swarm Focus sash

Entrainment X scissor Iron head Protect

Beartic Lv.50♂ Snow cloak Sitrus berry

Shadow claw Stone edge Avalanche Bulk up

Muchos Gracias! Thank You!--User:Focus58 says "Hi!"

Battle Subway Pokemon list

I can name at least 3 more for each strategie. I think her pokemon aren't set, she just uses those programmed for passangers, you can even find most of her pokemon in this list (see here). Even if she indeed uses preset pokemon, I believe there are too much of them to cover here. Also check my grammar please. — ∀ЫъГѣTalk page 10:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I know for a fact that the Pokémon she uses are definitely set, though maybe it would be wise to add a separate page listing them? That list is only going to get longer. Blazios 11:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Agreed.User:Focus58 says "Hi!"

They are set, but are quite a few. Also, I've seen Hilda use Pokémon listed on Hilbert's page -- I believe they have the same preset Pokémon. It sounds like a better idea to make a new page, like Battle Subway tag-battle Partner's Pokémon, or something (shorter? :P) along these lines. --Ash_Pokemaster 12:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Regardless, removing information is generally a bad idea without discussing it on the talk page first. I'll get more input on the matter, but I believe the information should stay. If it becomes so large that it takes up too much room, it can always be moved to a subpage. --rockersk08 15:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
So you do agree that this list shouldn't be here, yet you restored it. What for? I doubt it's really that notable to take space of this page (or even it's own page). Also like I said the number of pokemon, she could use seems to be extremely big, I played a lot with her and can't recall any occasion of meeting the same pokemon twice. As far as I can judge, she uses the same pokemon as trainers.
So, should I just add all her pokemon (which is impossible I believe) to proove that there are too many of them? — ∀ЫъГѣTalk page 15:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
I already mentioned that I would get extra input from higher staff members on the issue. In the meantime, you're going to have to wait. We're trying to adhere to some standard. Other NPCs are covered with their Pokémon, such as Dawn. If you read my response carefully, I said that the list should be there unless it is too large. Blue's party also has subpages for the older games, which is what I was referring to. --rockersk08 16:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Look at an of the Stat Trainers' pages; I find this comparable to those. Chances are that it's the same as Hilbert's. I would not object to a separate page listing them both. However, the information shouldn't be removed until that page is created. --SnorlaxMonster 16:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Also, I have had repeats. The list is most definitely set, though it is very big, but not impossibly big. Blazios 16:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but we should create a subpage ASAP, In my opinion. MiniProject Battle Subway! User:Focus58 says "Hi!"

P.S. Can someone add the subpage suggestion notice? Thanks!

The whole idea to list all the pokemon still seems to be wrong for me, but maybe we make it collapsed at least? This wall of templates, which is far bigger than actual content of the article scares me. — ∀ЫъГѣTalk page 06:26, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
In that case, are you going to do that for all of the Stat Trainers' pages? Their articles are all bigger than this one. Blazios 09:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Their articles are bigger than this one because they're complete, whereas this one isn't. This page currently only lists the tiniest fraction of Hilda's Pokémon. And besides, if her Pokémon truly are the same as Hilbert's, it would be more efficient to list them on a separate page that both articles could link to. --AndyPKMN (talk) 12:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
No they're not, they're all incomplete. And this is not "the tiniest fraction", it has all the defensive Pokémon and at least half of the offensive ones. Blazios 12:45, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Actually, the stat Trainer ones, while listing all the Pokémon, are severely incomplete in terms of movesets. I think that they should all be expandable, but if Hilda's and Hilbert's Pokémon are the same (which I'm pretty sure they are), we could create a template with these Pokémon on it and transclude it on both pages, which would also keep them synchronized. --SnorlaxMonster 12:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Shoot, my bad. I thought I remembered the Stat Trainer Pokémon lists being finished, and was assuming that nothing had been added to Hilda's page since this topic was started. I really need to double-check these things before I post. If the Stat Trainer pages are a comparable length, then I suppose this stuff ought to stay on this page as well. --AndyPKMN (talk) 14:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Umm, How come her battle subway pokemon are repeated? - unsigned comment from Mesuxelf (talkcontribs)

They're not. Species that are listed more than once have different movesets and/or held items in each instance. —Minimiscience 22:00, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


Shoud we merge the movesets to another page, e.g., "Hilda's Battle Subway Pokemon"?

User:Focus58 says "Hi!"


Can Someone make the "Defensive Pokémon" Header more Eye-catchng? As in Bigger? Or colored? Thanks--User:Focus58 says "Hi!"

Finished article?

Y'know, I checked the Offensive-based Subway Pokémon list over several times, no where did I see an incomplete moveset. Just me being blind or did someone forget to remove the notice at the top of the article? Sincerely, Jhuyu26--OH SNAP no page. 05:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

There are more Pokémon that Hilda can have than the ones listed. Blazios 07:04, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Then shouldn't the banner at the top say "incomplete Pokémon listing" instead of "incomplete movesets" or something? Sincerely, Jhuyu26--OH SNAP no page. 02:13, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

The origin of the Italian name (Anita) is wrong.

Actually, "Anita" does not come from Athena. Instead "is the Portuguese and Spanish pet form of Ana, corresponding to the Italian Anna, of which shares both origin and meaning", quoting the Italian Wikipedia page of "Anita". And, quoting the "Anna" (Italian) page, "it's a biblical name, from the Hebrew Hannah that means full of grace". You can also check the English Wiki pages of both Anita and Anna, they say almost the same things. - unsigned comment from KiraV (talkcontribs)

You misunderstand what the name origin is. It is not the origin of the name in general (which is completely irrelevant here), it is why the name was chosen for the character. --SnorlaxMonster 02:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Touko/Touya = Transparent?

It's odd, but I've heard from many places that her Japanese name Touko (and counterpart name Touya) don't actually come from fight, but mean clear or transparent, to fit in with the black and white theming. Of course, I don't actually know Japanese, but Google Translate seems to be giving something similar to Touko and Touya when I put in transparent. I know the rest of the names mean fighting, but it could be just a misunderstanding or something, or maybe the Japanese had a double meaning and the rest of them just picked one. Could someone who knows Japanese well enough to check it possibly confirm/debunk this? Thanks. HannahMyPet 14:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

That's because the sources you saw took the information from Bulbapedia (the "transparent" thing was in older version of the article, until I changed this). However, the syllable "tou" has dozens of meanings in Japanese and the "transparent" theory was just a shoot in the dark. And since in all other languages they have names related to fighting (keep in mind that in this generation international names are more Japanese-based than before), it's safe to assume that the intended meaning of "tou" was 闘 - fight, war. --Maxim 14:27, 20 April 2012 (UTC)