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::That's all I'm able to test at the moment, anyone up to check it out in HG/SS? --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 06:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 
::That's all I'm able to test at the moment, anyone up to check it out in HG/SS? --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 06:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
   
::Also I have yet to find an Ekans, Venonat, Hoothoot, Noctowl, or Ledyba (Spinarak would be in Gold) by headbutting forest trees, or Ekans in the mountains; it was said that the guide used for that info was for Crystal, perhaps those are Crystal only?
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::Also I have yet to find an Ekans, Venonat, Hoothoot, Noctowl, or Ledyba (Spinarak would be in Gold) by headbutting forest trees, or Ekans in the mountains; it was said that the guide used for that info was for Crystal, perhaps those are Crystal only? --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 20:15, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
   
 
== New Page! ==
 
== New Page! ==

Revision as of 20:15, 19 April 2010

The Gen II Headbutt Table

As far I was aware, there were two types of trees: Forest and Mountain. This article fails to make the distinction, and has a number of Pokémon missing from the list, the most notable being Heracross.

To further complicate matters, I possess two conflicting sources of information, and at a guess I'm assuming others do too. The first is an old Prima Game Guide for Pokémon Crystal, and a 'Nintendo Official Magazine' Monster Guide for Gold and Silver.

The Prima Guide listed the Pokemon as such:

Forest Trees

Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree, Weedle, Kakuna, Beedrill, Ekans, Venonat, Exeggcute, Hoothoot, Noctowl, Ledyba, Spinerak and Pineco.
Available at Routes 26 and 27, 29-32, 35-39, 43, Lake of Rage and Ilex Forest.

Mountain Trees

Spearow, Ekans, Aipom and Heracross.
Available at Routes 33, 42, 44 and Azalea Town.

However, in a section of the NOM Monster Guide it lists Heracross' Mountain Trees and Locations as Routes 29-33 and 42-44.

I'm aware that details published can easily be possibly dubious, but the fact that Heracross is missing from the BP list in the first place, and the BP Pokédex in general is a little indistinct on Headbutting, it may be worth a look in.

So, is there anybody out there who can verify this info? Thanks in Adv. --JaffaJHDA 22:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed that this article was missing this section. If you must, go ahead and edit it. If you need help with the table, then go to my talk page. ht14 00:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

After a bit of personal testing, i've found pineco in route 32, casting some doubt on the accuracy of NOM... Unless anyone wishes to dispute the fact this is just playtesting ill test the other doubted routes and edit accordingly... User talk:Parallel

  Ok, just checked routes 32,31,30, 29 and 43, and they're all Forest, making edit now.

In Gen II (silver) Azalea Town has Weedles and Kakunas so it is Forest not Mountain. Also I'm getting a database error whenever I try to edit this page. --Grinnz

Route 29 is a Mountain area, even says so on the Route 29 page. I changed it but messed up the formatting, now I can't fix it because this page is still causing database timeouts. --Grinnz 04:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, apparently the edit still goes through sometimes but takes several minutes. Anyway I'm going to check other routes in Gen II Silver, maybe there's a difference between gens here. --Grinnz 04:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Found (many) Spearows and some Aipom in these places meaning they are Mountain: Route 29, 30, 31, 32, 33
Also found a few Heracross on Route 30. The Spearow concentration here seemed a lot lower, I only found 1 out of the 10 ish battles.
Found Weedles etc in: Azalea Town, Ilex Forest (obviously), Route 35, 36, 37
Route 34 only has one headbutt-able tree and I found nothing there after many tries (like all the trees in Violet City)
Route 46 has no headbutt-able trees.
That's all I'm able to test at the moment, anyone up to check it out in HG/SS? --Grinnz 06:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Also I have yet to find an Ekans, Venonat, Hoothoot, Noctowl, or Ledyba (Spinarak would be in Gold) by headbutting forest trees, or Ekans in the mountains; it was said that the guide used for that info was for Crystal, perhaps those are Crystal only? --Grinnz 20:15, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

New Page!

Especially now with HG/SS, I think there should be a separate article for headbutt trees. This page could have a note about the ability to headbutt trees in the associated generations, with a link to that page. What do you guys think? [[Derian]] 16:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

What about tutoring!?

The last time I looked, many pages were linked with having Headbutt as a move tutor move in the Generation II remakes. Why does this page not yet have this list? It is a big task, I know, but i do not want to undertake it, or play a part in it, if there is a genuine reason for its absence. Please reply with answers as to whether it needs doing, agreements and/or support in completing this. Thanks, User:Samjohn95

Simply put, we have not yet got around to it. If you have a list by all means upload it. —darklordtrom 07:10, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, i will begin work on it as soon as i can. Samjohn95

I can also work on it too since after a small test I can confirm that I should be capable of handing it since I am using the preview button to help with my work. It'll take a while but I'll get it down ASAP. Till then I am keeping my collected details on my Sandbox page.-Tyler53841 02:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Despite a few unintended and annoying blunders, my work is complete and I learned from this experience. -Tyler53841 17:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I got halfway through and it appeared! Though I was looking forward to the experience, and my first large-scale edit, I am glad that it is done. Well done. I did do quite well for the Power page... oh well. Congrats! --Samjohn95

Sleep

Can anyone confirm that pokemon who are encountered by headbutting a tree can be asleep in HeartGold/ SoulSilver? I have yet to encounter this. Parallel

First, sign your name. Second, even in GSC, this also occurs depending on the time of day. In the morning, nocturnal Pokémon are asleep, while at night, the diurnal Pokémon are asleep. ht14 20:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Third, we don't resign our names. As for the question, I misinterpreted it. So... sorry... see if you can find a Hoothoot in the morning via Headbutt. ht14 21:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, kinda my first day editing, getting used to some of it. With time set to 5 AM, i couldn't get a Hoot-hoot asleep after aproximatley 10 tries. I also trued Exeggcute, Pineco, Spearow or Heracross during night time and they weren't asleep either. Is it safe to assume they removed the headbutt encounters being asleep? Parallel

Heracross not available in all mountain trees

I have done over 200 battles on routes 33 and routes 42 in pokemon soulsilver and silver, yet have not been able to encounter heracross even once, yet as soon as I start headbutting trees on route 44 I encounter a heracross almost immediately, it seems as though the pokemon encountered cannot simply be divided into mountain/forest trees as the article suggests. Energize 21:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

   I've found Heracross in Azalea Town, which is marked as a forest zone. Are we sure the forest/mountain system is still in effect in HeartGold/Soulsilver?  -Hot Dork