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: I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "Gogoat". [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobtheDoduo]] ([[User talk:JacobTheDoduo|talk]]) 17:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
: I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "Gogoat". [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobtheDoduo]] ([[User talk:JacobTheDoduo|talk]]) 17:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
::There is nothing confirming that. We do not assume romanizations. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:30, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
::There is nothing confirming that. We do not assume romanizations. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:30, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
::: It may also came from the word "go-cart" 11:02, 19 September 2013 (GMT)


== Horn Leech ==
== Horn Leech ==
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:::Animal type Pokemon are usually a blend of different animals, but I suppose the Markhor goat does look very similar to the Greater Kudu antelope. {{unsigned|Likalaruku}}
:::Animal type Pokemon are usually a blend of different animals, but I suppose the Markhor goat does look very similar to the Greater Kudu antelope. {{unsigned|Likalaruku}}
::::Yeah but Gogoat is not based off a Markhor goat.  More likely it is based off one of the more common breeds of farm goats (based off the horns).[[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:13, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
::::Yeah but Gogoat is not based off a Markhor goat.  More likely it is based off one of the more common breeds of farm goats (based off the horns).[[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:13, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
It seems to draw inspiration from both Goats and Rams. While goats and the sheep family are related, Goats are hairy and sheep are wooly. Its clearly giving off a wooly look with its grassy mane ruff and bushy (no pun intended) tail, but like a true goat, its tail sticks up. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
: I agree with you on that point, but it certainly wasn't designed after a deer. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 04:48, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
:: I have to say it does have some resemblance to Gazelle such as the {{wp|Grant's Gazelle}} (eye area) & {{wp|Soemmerring's gazelle}} (feet area) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GazellaSoemmerringiWolf.jpg which belong to the same family Bovid. Many people incorrectly think of and assume Antelopes/Gazelles are deers. Even I was under the assumption until I looked it up after noticing a similarity between Gogoto and a Grant'z Gazelle (again in the eye area) pic I once saw.
:: By the way, Likalaruku. Don't forget to sign your talk page posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
::: I agree that superficially, they resemble Gogoat, but I think this is because of convergent evolution.  Goat and antelope fill similar biological niches, so they have evolved a few similar structures.  Overall though, I think the inspiration behind the Pokemon is from a goat. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 15:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
::::I'm just going to throw this out there and say that if I ever saw a deer that looked anything like that, then I would be most likely crazy. Seriously, Go'''goat''' is a goat, not a deer. It's not called Godeer. It resembles a goat more than anything. I can't see any deer in it. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:03, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


== Ken Sugimori artwork ==
== Ken Sugimori artwork ==
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The main picture needs to update to the newest Ken Sugimori artwork. [[a:File:Gogoat.png]] [[User:Terry152|Terry152]] ([[User talk:Terry152|talk]]) 01:30, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
The main picture needs to update to the newest Ken Sugimori artwork. [[a:File:Gogoat.png]] [[User:Terry152|Terry152]] ([[User talk:Terry152|talk]]) 01:30, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
:That actually is the artwork that's being used right now.  However, it takes some time for it to update on the page.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 01:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
:That actually is the artwork that's being used right now.  However, it takes some time for it to update on the page.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 01:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
== Physiology ==
The physiology section on this article is written in plural, while nearly all of the other articles for Pokémon are written in singular. Part of [[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu's]]:
"Pikachu is a short, chubby, rodent-like Pokémon with yellow fur all over its body. Pikachu's ears are long and come to a point with black tips. It has a small mouth, which resembles a sideways 3, it has black eyes with white pupils and two red circles on its cheeks."
Are all of the articles supposed to mention the said Pokémon in plural form or singular? Does it matter? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 00:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:The biology section of the articles is meant to refer to the species as a whole, not a single Pokemon. Ideally, they should be written in plural form. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 03:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
==Gogoat Pre-Evolution?==
In the background of one of the new screenshots for Lumiose City in Pokémon X and Y, there appear to be two small Gogoat-like Pokémon which have much smaller horns than Gogoat (if any horns at all). they have the same kind of bushy growth round their necks, on their backs, and covering (if not acting completely as) their tail as Gogoat does. I know it is too early to declare them as new Pokémon just yet, as it is not 100% obvious that they are even Pokémon at all, but if you look closely, in my opinion, it appears to be the most reasonable explanation. So, even though it is too early to tell yet, is it not at least worth mentioning?--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:Here is a zoomed-in version of the image I added. - [[File:Potential_Gogoat_Pre-Evolution.png]]--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 16:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
::Possible, but for now it would still classify as speculation, as we know nothing about it. There hasn't even been any mention of Gogoat being part of an evolutionairy family. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Thanks! Just wondered.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
::::[[http://www.revogamers.net/noticias/nintendo-3ds/pokemon-x-y-estrenara-concepto-megaevolucion-y-megapokemon-11741.html A Spanish-language source]] has published a scan of the latest CoroCoro. The pre-evolution's name is ムエークル. [[User:FalafelC|FalafelC]] ([[User talk:FalafelC|talk]]) 18:10, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::Yes. We've known this for hours now. We even {{p|Me'ēkuru|have a page}}. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 18:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::Aha! I was right! I guess it's case closed then! Sorry I didn't comment earlier. I was on holiday in Malta :). Without internet :(.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:35, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
== Korean name for Gogoat ==
Its Korean name is 고고트 ''Gogoteu''.
* It's just a transliteration of its Japanese/English name. (I'd say Japanese name.) -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
== Anime image ==
Since Gogoat, Noivern and Helioptile have anime images, and Gogoat and Helioptile have appeared in the anime, could their anime images be added to their respective pages? <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 09:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
== Shiny ==
Should we add its shiny image to the page to showcase its alternate look. My thinking behind this is that we have shown screenshots of an unsheathed [[Honedge]], and a [[Swirlix]] with both its "feet" visible to showcase alternate appearances for them, and since shiny form(e)s are, themselves, alternate appearances of Pokémon, it only makes sense to me to add a shiny image.[[File:Shiny_Gogoat_Cropped.png]]--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 12:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:That's not the shiny version. The shiny one has yellow horns and some other differences.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
== THERE IS NO INFORMATION ANYWHERE ON THE WIKI ABOUT THE RIDE-ABLE GOGOAT IN THE CITY IN Lumiose City! ==
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY NOT?
ONE GUESS:ITS SO MINOR THAT IT GETS NO INFORMATION
--[[User:Link of time|Link of time]] ([[User talk:Link of time|talk]]) 22:06, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
:Are you referring to the [[Gogoat Shuttle]]? I've pasted the link to get to the section of the Lumiose City page where the info is located. Please don't use all caps again while communicating on talk pages, it's comes off as yelling and is rather unnecessary. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 22:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes sorry i thought it was not on the wiki LOL --[[User:Link of time|Link of time]] ([[User talk:Link of time|talk]]) 23:01, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:01, 3 October 2015

Name origin

What do you guys think of the name coming from 轟轟 (gōgō), which means rumbling?KurowaSan (talk) 07:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "Gogoat". JacobtheDoduo (talk) 17:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
There is nothing confirming that. We do not assume romanizations. Ataro (talk) 17:30, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
It may also came from the word "go-cart" 11:02, 19 September 2013 (GMT)

Horn Leech

Is it worth mentioning that its signature move is Horn Leech? MasterZ (talk) 23:03, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

It's not...--Den Zen 23:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

So many Grass types learn Horn Leech. True, GoGoat/Gogoto was released with an animation of Horn Leech, but other Pokémon learn it.152105 (talk) 20:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Only Sawsbuck can learn it prior to X and Y. Ataro (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

About the german/french name origin

I have no idea what che- means (maybe from Chevrolet lol), but I'm pretty sure that -vrumm/-vroum comes from the sound that a car makes when the engine is revving. (probably referencing the riding part) Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 05:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I believe that chev- comes form "chèvre", french word for "goat". - unsigned comment from Toback (talkcontribs)
The -vrumm/-vroum also relates to the 轟轟 (gōgō) in japanese, which is the onomatopoeia for "engine sounds".KurowaSan (talk) 04:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Goat? More like a deer.

Looks like t would be related to the Tragelaphus family with the Kudu, Bushbuck, & Nyala. - unsigned comment from Likalaruku (talkcontribs)

It clearly looks like a goat. Not to mention its name is Gogoat. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 07:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I agree with Jo. A member of the Tragelaphus family has either straight horns or horns with a spiral to them. The horns of Gogoat are more indicative of a goat which grow backwards at a curve. Nuckles123 (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Animal type Pokemon are usually a blend of different animals, but I suppose the Markhor goat does look very similar to the Greater Kudu antelope. - unsigned comment from Likalaruku (talkcontribs)
Yeah but Gogoat is not based off a Markhor goat. More likely it is based off one of the more common breeds of farm goats (based off the horns).Nuckles123 (talk) 21:13, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

It seems to draw inspiration from both Goats and Rams. While goats and the sheep family are related, Goats are hairy and sheep are wooly. Its clearly giving off a wooly look with its grassy mane ruff and bushy (no pun intended) tail, but like a true goat, its tail sticks up. Yamitora1 (talk) 00:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you on that point, but it certainly wasn't designed after a deer. Nuckles123 (talk) 04:48, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I have to say it does have some resemblance to Gazelle such as the Grant's Gazelle (eye area) & Soemmerring's gazelle (feet area) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GazellaSoemmerringiWolf.jpg which belong to the same family Bovid. Many people incorrectly think of and assume Antelopes/Gazelles are deers. Even I was under the assumption until I looked it up after noticing a similarity between Gogoto and a Grant'z Gazelle (again in the eye area) pic I once saw.
By the way, Likalaruku. Don't forget to sign your talk page posts with ~~~~ Yamitora1 (talk) 07:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree that superficially, they resemble Gogoat, but I think this is because of convergent evolution. Goat and antelope fill similar biological niches, so they have evolved a few similar structures. Overall though, I think the inspiration behind the Pokemon is from a goat. Nuckles123 (talk) 15:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm just going to throw this out there and say that if I ever saw a deer that looked anything like that, then I would be most likely crazy. Seriously, Gogoat is a goat, not a deer. It's not called Godeer. It resembles a goat more than anything. I can't see any deer in it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:03, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Ken Sugimori artwork

The main picture needs to update to the newest Ken Sugimori artwork. a:File:Gogoat.png Terry152 (talk) 01:30, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

That actually is the artwork that's being used right now. However, it takes some time for it to update on the page. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 01:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Physiology

The physiology section on this article is written in plural, while nearly all of the other articles for Pokémon are written in singular. Part of Pikachu's: "Pikachu is a short, chubby, rodent-like Pokémon with yellow fur all over its body. Pikachu's ears are long and come to a point with black tips. It has a small mouth, which resembles a sideways 3, it has black eyes with white pupils and two red circles on its cheeks." Are all of the articles supposed to mention the said Pokémon in plural form or singular? Does it matter? -- Pringles 00:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

The biology section of the articles is meant to refer to the species as a whole, not a single Pokemon. Ideally, they should be written in plural form. Crystal Talian 03:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Gogoat Pre-Evolution?

In the background of one of the new screenshots for Lumiose City in Pokémon X and Y, there appear to be two small Gogoat-like Pokémon which have much smaller horns than Gogoat (if any horns at all). they have the same kind of bushy growth round their necks, on their backs, and covering (if not acting completely as) their tail as Gogoat does. I know it is too early to declare them as new Pokémon just yet, as it is not 100% obvious that they are even Pokémon at all, but if you look closely, in my opinion, it appears to be the most reasonable explanation. So, even though it is too early to tell yet, is it not at least worth mentioning?--ShinyPatch (talk) 15:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Here is a zoomed-in version of the image I added. - Potential Gogoat Pre-Evolution.png--ShinyPatch (talk) 16:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Possible, but for now it would still classify as speculation, as we know nothing about it. There hasn't even been any mention of Gogoat being part of an evolutionairy family. BlazingFist ☼ 17:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Just wondered.--ShinyPatch (talk) 18:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
[A Spanish-language source] has published a scan of the latest CoroCoro. The pre-evolution's name is ムエークル. FalafelC (talk) 18:10, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes. We've known this for hours now. We even have a page. Ataro (talk) 18:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Aha! I was right! I guess it's case closed then! Sorry I didn't comment earlier. I was on holiday in Malta :). Without internet :(.--ShinyPatch (talk) 15:35, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Korean name for Gogoat

Its Korean name is 고고트 Gogoteu.

  • It's just a transliteration of its Japanese/English name. (I'd say Japanese name.) -- Nick15 (talk) 17:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Anime image

Since Gogoat, Noivern and Helioptile have anime images, and Gogoat and Helioptile have appeared in the anime, could their anime images be added to their respective pages? XVuvuzela2010X 09:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Shiny

Should we add its shiny image to the page to showcase its alternate look. My thinking behind this is that we have shown screenshots of an unsheathed Honedge, and a Swirlix with both its "feet" visible to showcase alternate appearances for them, and since shiny form(e)s are, themselves, alternate appearances of Pokémon, it only makes sense to me to add a shiny image.Shiny Gogoat Cropped.png--ShinyPatch (talk) 12:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

That's not the shiny version. The shiny one has yellow horns and some other differences.--BigBadBatter (talk) 05:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

THERE IS NO INFORMATION ANYWHERE ON THE WIKI ABOUT THE RIDE-ABLE GOGOAT IN THE CITY IN Lumiose City!

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY NOT? ONE GUESS:ITS SO MINOR THAT IT GETS NO INFORMATION --Link of time (talk) 22:06, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Are you referring to the Gogoat Shuttle? I've pasted the link to get to the section of the Lumiose City page where the info is located. Please don't use all caps again while communicating on talk pages, it's comes off as yelling and is rather unnecessary. --Pokemaster97 22:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes sorry i thought it was not on the wiki LOL --Link of time (talk) 23:01, 3 October 2015 (UTC)