Talk:Giratina (Pokémon)

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Previous discussions

Origin(s) section should be revamped

I searched and searched, but found no info on "Garathena". Nor do I see why the word "Giraffe" would have any bearing on its name. The rest of the info seems fine except for the whole Izami thing, I don't see how that relates to Giratina at all. EmptyStar 00:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Instead of giraffe, why not replace it with qilin (kirin in Japanese) instead? 神奇超龍 15:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Becasue nothing in the name "Giratina" seems to sound anything like quilin/ kirin. EmptyStar 04:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

It's long neck is probably why it was associated with giraffe. Is it me, or does Giratina resemble Deathscythe from Gundam Wing?Tesseract 09:33, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

An Altered "Altered Forme"

Why does Giratina's Altered Forme's wings seem to differ from game to game? --Landfish7 04:03, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

So wait...

Does a Giratina from the Dream World not change its ability when it changes form? Or are we missing an ability somehow? --AndyPKMN (talk) 00:09, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Giratina (Origin)'s Hidden Ability is technically also Levitate, similar to Flygon. A Telepathy Giratina given a Griseous Orb will have Levitate, and it will revert to Telepathy when the Orb is removed. I imagine the distinction of why Flygon has an explicitly-stated yet identical Hidden Ability in the code is due to Flygon being capable of breeding, to still get Sheer Force Trapinches, while Giratina has no such complication. - Saethori 03:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Giratina is related to the Shinto shrine.

The legends associated with it are similar to those of Izanami, former wife of the kami Izanagi. When she died of severe burns from giving birth to a fire god, she went to the underworld, from which Izanagi tried, but failed, to retrieve her, as she had already accepted her fate.

The person who notices that shrine is a Shinto shrine is a little. Describe it if there is a legend that looks like. Sawamular101 07:01, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

The world of Pokemon is based on Japanese culture but various other cultures are also added and mixed.[1]

1 shrine(HOKORA/Shinto shrine). The relation is hinted by "Celestic Town shrine(Wall painting of cave) ".

2 The world of YOMI. (The world where the dead exist)

3 IZANAMI becomes a ghost. Giratina is a ghost type.

4 IZANAMI becomes a god in the country of YOMI.

Giratina is similar to another legend of izanami. "Jo The Marten " did an unjust deletion. The explanation is requested from him. Sawamular101 07:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I may be mis-interpreting some points because of the language barrier, but I can see a few flaws in the relation. Firstly, the distortion world isn't a world where the dead exist. Secondly, I'm not sure Giratina is the "god" of the distortion world. It was banished there, and it's the only thing that lives there. That doesn't make it a god of that area. Also, all Pokémon world mythology in the games is delivered through a major character or an old man/woman. The old woman who talks about the cave paintings is no different from any other old woman in the game, making any comparison based on her rather flawed. If I'm understanding things correctly, the link between that legend and Giratina is tenuous at best.
Also, if something you add is removed and you disagree with the removal, please don't re-add it to the page. Wait for the talk page discussion to take place first. Werdnae (talk) 08:17, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Dialga and Palkia are called a god(KAMI) in a Japanese version.[2]. With similar power, it is suitable that Giratina is called KAMI(However, it is not actually called KAMI. ).
I think the relation to the legend of Shintoism because there is a point of contact in the Shinto shrine. However, I think that other legends mix(not Japanese legend). Sawamular101 08:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)