Talk:Generation IV

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Okay, at the very least this page needs to be revamped. Right now, all of the information on the page can be found on the Diamond and Pearl page. Following the precedent set by the pages for Generations II and III, this page should include sections on "Advances in Gameplay", "Shinō Starters", "Gym Leaders", and "Other Generation IV games". Hovever, the list of new Pokémon should be removed, especially since it can be found, with annotation, on the Diamond/Pearl page. Also, the information on Shinō should be moved to a new, more complete introduction. Does anyone agree with me? Drapion 23:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we can take for granted that this page should look like the II and III pages. A new page for the complete list of the Generation IV Pokemon should be created once the games are out; for now I suggest that this list remains in the Diamond and Pearl page since it's more frequently visited than this one. --Arty2 00:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

New Developments

Should some reference be made to the article in Coro Coro about the new game coming out this year? Kochdude388 23:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Certainly. As soon as it's announced what exactly the new game is, GSDS, DPv3, or something else completely. TTEchidna 01:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon Platinum

that is the confirmed title according to serebii and corocoro. Giratina will be on the box, the underground will have Wi-Fi, etc. An image of it is on Serebii.

That scan you looked at is NOT confimred to be legit. --Shiningpikablu252 18:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

the scan isn't, but according to serebii, the title is, but serebii's been wrong before. --Arutoa 22:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Generation IV with Generation II?

I just can't understand how Generation I is contemporary with Generation III or how Gens II and IV are contemporary with each other. All I'm seeing is "Generation X is comtemporary with Generation Z" or that "Gen X seems to be contemporary with Gen Z", but where has that been proved?... I'm not saying that's not true, I'm just saying I find that puzzling and interesting. Sipulichu 00:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hoenn and Kanto take place at the same time is a weak bet, but it's mostly because you don't need a time machine to trade between the games. Therefore, they must trade at the same time. Gen 2 and 4 are contemporary because of: A. the Red Gyarados report at the start of DP (which must happen before Gold/Crystal captures/defeats the Gyarados), B. References to Elm's RECENT report on eggs, and there are more, but those are two of the big ones. Persumably, it takes 3 years or so for Pokémon to reach Sinnoh (Assuming by land, on foot) from Hoenn or Kanto.

At the beginning of RBY, you have a Nes/Snes. At the beginning of RSE, you have a Gamecube. That's pretty odd, because the NES and Gamecube were released more than 10 years apart, how could they take place at the same time? The time machine doesn't necessarily indicate that RSE takes place at the same time as RBY, because since the data for pokemon was available in both FRLG and RSE, then you could freely exchange pokemon and wouldn't need an excuse to only transfer certain pokemon - unsigned comment from Edge578 (talkcontribs)

Remembering of course that the GameCube wasn't invented at the time of RBY, how could they have it in that game? The whole thing is based on a series of hunches, which is explained above. I don't see why it needs to be discussed further. — THE TROM — 20:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

As you said before, they couldn't allow GSC pokemon into RBY because they weren't programmed into the game. In RSE, they programmed all 386 pokemon into the game, so using a Time Machine Feature isn't necessary. This does not indicate the chronology of the games.--Edge578 23:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait, when did it say Professor Elm's report on eggs was recent?--Starlight the ampharos 13:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it is the hiker who gives you the Happiny egg in Hearthome. — THE TROM — 21:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Gym Leaders

Can I put it like the Sinnoh page? LIke a Diamond and Pearl and a Platinum gym leader chart? Here, straight from the Sinnoh page:


# Leader Type
1 Roark Rock
2 Gardenia Grass
3 Maylene Fighting
4 Crasher Wake Water
5 Fantina Ghost
6 Byron Steel
7 Candice Ice
8 Volkner Electric


# Leader Type
1 Roark Rock
2 Gardenia Grass
3 Fantina Ghost
4 Maylene Fighting
5 Crasher Wake Water
6 Byron Steel
7 Candice Ice
8 Volkner Electric

So? Should I put it? I'll be looking for an answer.--DRAGONBEASTX 02:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, because it changed. — THE TROM — 03:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I've done it. — THE TROM — 08:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


I'm just wondering, do we have any physical evidence of the dark, fighting, and psychic starter trio? --MiekL94 20:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

See Coronis, or just look it up on Google. ht14 21:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


recently I have been looking at some of the Kanto cities, routes and locations and many (if not all) of the pages seem to reference them as being part of generation IV? Is this just because of Pal Park possible data because that seems to hardly count as being a part of generation IV... Is there any confirmation that Kanto will be fully accessible in HeartGold/SoulSilver yet? If not, this shouldn't be assumed... -- D558 04:39, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Remake. Was all of Gen I Kanto accessible in FRLG? Find a place from RGBY that didn't appear in FRLG. Kanto's in HGSS, and since it's a remake it's safe to say that every place in Neo Kanto will be there as it was in GS. TTEchidna 05:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)