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== metal ==
== metal ==


Gee, I sure hope no ones rewrite 'metal' as MENTAL (lol) [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color: #000080">Optimus35</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color: #000080">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 10:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Gee, I sure hope no ones rewrite 'metal' as MENTAL (lol) '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color: #000080">Optimus35</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color: #000080">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup> 10:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


== Select button ==
== Select button ==
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:No Kanto starters, I'm afraid.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] 18:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:No Kanto starters, I'm afraid.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] 18:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ok then, don't mind this, thank you!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 06:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ok then, don't mind this, thank you!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 06:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
== Accuracy ==
If a move has 100% accuracy, like Earthquake, it only hit 99.6% of the time in Generation I. Does it continue to do so in Gen II? [[User:Hotmedal|Hotmedal]] 07:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:[[Accuracy|Yes]]. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 07:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::Um. According to the page you linked, you mean “No”. --WikidSmaht 10:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Uh.... yeah.... Can't even claim I was overtired when I wrote that.... &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 19:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
== Shiny Pokemon ==
Um... Wasnt generation 2 the first to have a shiny pokemon to be in the main storyline? (its says so in the trivia section of PMD explorers of time and darkness) --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]][[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 05:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Quote that trivia: "{{tt|This|PMD2}} is the second game to feature a shiny Pokémon as part of the main storyline, with the first being the {{tt|Generation II main series|the generation we are talking about}}." Umm... yup. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 08:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:: wat was it? --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]][[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 21:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:::It's in the article. I suggest you look there. </discussion> &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
== Ending in 2001? ==
I don't understand, the generation did not end with the American release of Pokémon Crystal, it ending when Ruby and Sapphire were released right?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 01:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yes as I understand it the same applies for other Generations as well as is shown below:
::'''Generation I''' ended when Pokemon Gold/Silver were released thus starting '''Generation II'''
::'''Generation II''' ended when Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire were released thus starting '''Generation III'''
::'''Generation III''' ended when Pokemon Diamond/Pearl were released thus starting '''Generation IV'''
::'''Generation IV''' will end when Pokemon Black/White are released thus starting '''Generation V'''
Therefore one generation ends when a another set of paired games are released, Remakes don't count. [[User:Pday2387|Pday2387]] 10:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
== Prototype Pokemon Names ==
I was digging around my old website to find some nifty tidbits to add to Bulbapedia, and I found this page: [http://pa4.pokemonaaah.net/pokemon/4-pokemon-game-boy/08-gs-pokedex.html G/S Prototype Names] I didn't make any of this up, a lot of it actually came from Bulbagarden and PokeFor back in the day. Some of the interesting names:
* Xatu & Xoqo for Natu & Xatu, respectively
* Trillix for Misdreavus or Sneasel (the name "Misdreavus" is on the list, but given to Sneasel, while Misdreavus is named "Trillix"... [http://www.slipups.com/items/6623.html Another piece of evidence for "Trillix"]
* Duglari for Dunsparce
I wonder if some of this can appear SOMEWHERE, obviously most likely on each Pokemon's page... Whaddya think? - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 06:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
== re: English-language release ==
Wikipedia says Sep 4, everything else says Oct 13, both for Australia, and both before the 15th; either one's right or both are wrong. We get pushed aside for everything as it is... [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 00:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
:I don't know where Bulbapedia got the date from, and Wikipedia is not even sourced so who knows. I can't find anything. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
== Incorrect Trivia? ==
I was reading this article when I came across this:
"Generation II is the only generation where:
Each Pokémon has a different sprite in each game (except for Unown and a few others)."
This doesn't sound right to me. Gen I had different sprites for all of their Pokemon, so Gen II isn't the only gen to do this. In addition, Pokemon Crystal didn't make new sprites for the Pokemon - they picked a sprite from G/S and animated it. So I think this part should be removed. [[User:Coronation|Coronation]] 01:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:There's also "Generation II is the only generation where the National Pokédex cannot be completed without another generation[...]," which doesn't make sense to me. I'm ''pretty'' sure you can't obtain Dialga and Palkia, Mewtwo, Deoxys, Ho-Oh and Lugia, and the Legendary Dogs (among others) in Black/White without obtaining them from a previous generation. Please correct me if I'm wrong. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|<span style="color:#00A550">'''''Szayel</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Aporro</span><span style="color:#FF69B4">Granz'''''</span>]] 03:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
::At the first comment in this topic: I think that means that the sprites differed between games: i.e. Silver and Gold had different sprites whereas Red and Blue shared sprites.
::The second point is correct in that the article is incorrect. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>'''
== "Two-stage, cat-like evolutionary line" ==
Should we list out the Pokémon in this category that were introduced in the other generations?
*Generation I introduced {{p|Meowth}}/{{p|Persian}}
*Generation III introduced {{p|Skitty}}/{{p|Delcatty}}
*Generation IV introduced {{p|Glameow}}/{{p|Purugly}}
*Generation V introduced {{p|Purrloin}}/{{p|Liepard}}
It just seems appropriate, especially as readers who aren't aware of this fact might want to know what the other evolutionary lines are. Also, [[Generation I]] also points out the fact that a damaging move varying in type was not introduced and lists those that were in later generations, so it'd also improve consistency. [[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428">'''Hax'''</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646">'''or'''</span>]][[Special:MyContributions|<span style="color:#800517">'''us'''</span>]] 03:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
You know the same thing is true with fossil pokemon there wasn't two two staged evolution pokemon nor was there any new fossil pokemon,Shouldn't this be notified somewhere in the article? {{unsigned|VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP}}
:The thing is. It's already stated in there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 04:03, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
== Move tag request ==
If you think the article "Generation II" should be tagged for moving to a new title "Gold & Silver series", then will you please replace {{Template|Unknown name}} with [[Template:Move|<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>move|Gold & Silver series<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>]]? [[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 23:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
== Pure Starter Error ==
In the first paragraph of the Thematic motifs it states that every generation except VI has had one starter with a ''pure'' type final evolution. This is true, however generation IV also failed to introduce a final form starter that retains its single typing. Both Torterra, Infernape, and Empoleon are dual type Pokemon. Gen IV should be added to this sentence.
== Thematic motif question ==
"The player must navigate Johto and Kanto, beating the new Elite Four, sixteen Gym Leaders and the original Pokémon Champion Red. This is after defeating the newly revitalized Team Rocket, searching for the fallen Giovanni. The second generation expanded upon trading through use of held items, evolution through the addition of friendship, and breeding to attain pre-evolution or baby Pokémon." "Johto is physically connected to Kanto and these games added depth to both regions."
How is this relevant to the recurring theme of the region though? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] ([[User talk:Flygonfanno1|talk]]) 15:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:58, 22 August 2016

What is White City? - Ferret 02:42, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

White City is the city in Pokemon Stadium Gold/Silver. --Meowth346 02:46, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. That's what you get for never really touching Stadium, eh? - Ferret 02:46, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I played it for the better part of 60 or 70 hours and didn't know what it was. ^^;

~Evan

So where does the first one take place? Indigo Plateu? - unsigned comment from Zeta (talkcontribs)

Kanto. C Teng [talk] 14:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

metal

Gee, I sure hope no ones rewrite 'metal' as MENTAL (lol) Optimus35Talk | DP 10:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Select button

How do you do to make a item be used with select button? Jacce 16:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Go to it, press A, then click on Register. This only works on Key Items, by the way. Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 16:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. By the way, on my version it stod "SEL", but it still worked. Jacce 16:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Starters

When you finish the Jhoto part and you are able to travel to Kanto you get to chose one Kanto starter? If so, I think it should be in the article, if not, then no! ;)--YukitoOoO 18:07, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

No Kanto starters, I'm afraid.--RexRacer 18:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok then, don't mind this, thank you!--YukitoOoO 06:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Accuracy

If a move has 100% accuracy, like Earthquake, it only hit 99.6% of the time in Generation I. Does it continue to do so in Gen II? Hotmedal 07:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. — THE TROM — 07:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Um. According to the page you linked, you mean “No”. --WikidSmaht 10:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Uh.... yeah.... Can't even claim I was overtired when I wrote that.... — THE TROM — 19:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Shiny Pokemon

Um... Wasnt generation 2 the first to have a shiny pokemon to be in the main storyline? (its says so in the trivia section of PMD explorers of time and darkness) --Usyflad10 05:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Quote that trivia: "This is the second game to feature a shiny Pokémon as part of the main storyline, with the first being the Generation II main series." Umm... yup. —darklordtrom 08:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
wat was it? --Usyflad10 21:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
It's in the article. I suggest you look there. </discussion> —darklordtrom 21:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Ending in 2001?

I don't understand, the generation did not end with the American release of Pokémon Crystal, it ending when Ruby and Sapphire were released right?--Midnight Blue 01:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes as I understand it the same applies for other Generations as well as is shown below:
Generation I ended when Pokemon Gold/Silver were released thus starting Generation II
Generation II ended when Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire were released thus starting Generation III
Generation III ended when Pokemon Diamond/Pearl were released thus starting Generation IV
Generation IV will end when Pokemon Black/White are released thus starting Generation V

Therefore one generation ends when a another set of paired games are released, Remakes don't count. Pday2387 10:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Prototype Pokemon Names

I was digging around my old website to find some nifty tidbits to add to Bulbapedia, and I found this page: G/S Prototype Names I didn't make any of this up, a lot of it actually came from Bulbagarden and PokeFor back in the day. Some of the interesting names:

  • Xatu & Xoqo for Natu & Xatu, respectively
  • Trillix for Misdreavus or Sneasel (the name "Misdreavus" is on the list, but given to Sneasel, while Misdreavus is named "Trillix"... Another piece of evidence for "Trillix"
  • Duglari for Dunsparce

I wonder if some of this can appear SOMEWHERE, obviously most likely on each Pokemon's page... Whaddya think? - Nick15 06:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

re: English-language release

Wikipedia says Sep 4, everything else says Oct 13, both for Australia, and both before the 15th; either one's right or both are wrong. We get pushed aside for everything as it is... Frugali 00:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't know where Bulbapedia got the date from, and Wikipedia is not even sourced so who knows. I can't find anything. --HoennMaster 04:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect Trivia?

I was reading this article when I came across this:

"Generation II is the only generation where: Each Pokémon has a different sprite in each game (except for Unown and a few others)."

This doesn't sound right to me. Gen I had different sprites for all of their Pokemon, so Gen II isn't the only gen to do this. In addition, Pokemon Crystal didn't make new sprites for the Pokemon - they picked a sprite from G/S and animated it. So I think this part should be removed. Coronation 01:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

There's also "Generation II is the only generation where the National Pokédex cannot be completed without another generation[...]," which doesn't make sense to me. I'm pretty sure you can't obtain Dialga and Palkia, Mewtwo, Deoxys, Ho-Oh and Lugia, and the Legendary Dogs (among others) in Black/White without obtaining them from a previous generation. Please correct me if I'm wrong. // SzayelAporroGranz 03:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
At the first comment in this topic: I think that means that the sprites differed between games: i.e. Silver and Gold had different sprites whereas Red and Blue shared sprites.
The second point is correct in that the article is incorrect. —darklordtrom

"Two-stage, cat-like evolutionary line"

Should we list out the Pokémon in this category that were introduced in the other generations?

It just seems appropriate, especially as readers who aren't aware of this fact might want to know what the other evolutionary lines are. Also, Generation I also points out the fact that a damaging move varying in type was not introduced and lists those that were in later generations, so it'd also improve consistency. Haxorus 03:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

You know the same thing is true with fossil pokemon there wasn't two two staged evolution pokemon nor was there any new fossil pokemon,Shouldn't this be notified somewhere in the article? - unsigned comment from VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP (talkcontribs)

The thing is. It's already stated in there.--ForceFire 04:03, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Move tag request

If you think the article "Generation II" should be tagged for moving to a new title "Gold & Silver series", then will you please replace {{Unknown name}} with {{move|Gold & Silver series}}? SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 23:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Pure Starter Error

In the first paragraph of the Thematic motifs it states that every generation except VI has had one starter with a pure type final evolution. This is true, however generation IV also failed to introduce a final form starter that retains its single typing. Both Torterra, Infernape, and Empoleon are dual type Pokemon. Gen IV should be added to this sentence.

Thematic motif question

"The player must navigate Johto and Kanto, beating the new Elite Four, sixteen Gym Leaders and the original Pokémon Champion Red. This is after defeating the newly revitalized Team Rocket, searching for the fallen Giovanni. The second generation expanded upon trading through use of held items, evolution through the addition of friendship, and breeding to attain pre-evolution or baby Pokémon." "Johto is physically connected to Kanto and these games added depth to both regions."

How is this relevant to the recurring theme of the region though? Flygonfanno1 (talk) 15:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)